Posted on 07/27/2012 9:41:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I like the article, and I liked the movie. Prepare for FReepers who haven’t seen the movie to trash it though.
Lifelong Batman fan. Seen the movie; it was fantastic. I agree with this article 100%. One of the most conservative movies I’ve ever seen.
Case in point: one little scene in the movie where Selena Kyle, who for most of the movie had viewed herself as a Robin Hood-esque class warrior, walks into an abandoned house after the “Revolution” she had wanted. The house was once beautiful, but not is a shell. There’s an old picture of a happy family on the dirty floor. Selena whispers, “This was once somebody’s house.” A girl next to her declares “But now it’s EVERYONE’S house!” And Selena just smirks. The house is no longer worth living in, and is destroyed.
That was one of the most small, subtle, beautifully-put cases against Marxism I’ve ever seen.
The article is right. I saw TDKR the other day, and it is definitely an ANTI-Occupy Wall Street movie. And the hero (Bruce Wayne) is a rich white guy who believes in PRIVATE charity.
Well observed.
Seeing it this weekend, with the wife. Hope it’s as good as I’ve been hearing, although I will be watching it for entertainment value only.
I don’t pay movie prices to be instructed, even in a conservative way. Story first. If the director manages to get a few good philosophical, theological, or political licks in, so much the better. But story first.
NOT a comics book fan... but I had to watch the movie (don’t ask how I got it ;)) after all of the controversy over it..
I’ve seen MANY people saying it is THE best move... I don’t necessarily agree (we each have our won taste), BUT, it made a very clear point to what will happen (or something very similar) in the very near future if people don’t start understanding tyrants as leaders.. (marxism/socialism.. leading to communism). We would not be the first to go there.. but, sadly, I feel that many Americans have NO CLUE that it has been tried, and failed every time (or that they may be the first ones executed).
I’ll leave it at that.. I usually get lost in all of what I want to say and it ends up more confusing than when I started to express my point :p
I also liked Bruce Wayne’s response to Miranda when she was talking about green energy. “Not if it’s a bad investment”.
Thank you for this! Now I’ll see the movie. Boyer said all the right words—Dickens, Carton, Robespierre, Revolution, Burke, and alludes to Sir Percy Blakeney, descended from Crusader knights, another wealthy, seeming fop who takes his personal charity, honor, and chivalry seriously—governments and socially meted-out justice be damned.
I saw it last night and thought it was great, and yes, it did have a very anti-OWS, anti-leftist message. “Everything belongs to the people”...who suddenly find they have nothing and are huddled together burning bits of the furniture to stay warm (while, of course, the revolutionaries, Bane and Co., live large).
Dickens is all through it. Probably my favorite scenes were the “courtroom” scenes, which showed a kangaroo court where a judge who looks very much like Baltasar Garzon or an NYU professor “tries” people by asking them whether they’d like death or exile (which actually is also death). He’s seated in the midst of and peering over heaps of documents and rubble from the destroyed offices, looking like something you’d see in the offices of Jarndyce and Jarndyce, while at the same time reminding me of all of the books and piles of legal and business documents that were scattered into the air by 9/11, when anti-civilization forces struck at the symbol of business and order.
I thought it was a great film. I can see why the OWSers might not like it, but I hope Freepers will see it before making a decision on it. Rush would be advised to keep his mouth shut until he’s seen it, too; he always hears just a bit of something, misunderstands it, and runs with it, one reason I’ve pretty much quit listening to him. Incidentally, I didn’t think it was any more violent or bloody than any other action or superhero film.
In general, I’d agree that movies needn’t be instructive. Entertaining & clean are usually enough. But great fiction has been dead for decades. It’s about time Hollywood chose one of the old themes (the French Revolution and individual heroism) and played it out truthfully. We Americans still believe in heroes, and both novels mentioned gave us the best of the lot.
Love it—Bleak House, too!!!
I haven't seen the new Batman yet, but Fight Club is an absolutely awesome movie.
There was a bit of tearing down society theme, but it was in the context where the character(s) advocating it was in the thralls of a complete psychological breakdown, so any agenda he had was pretty muddled.
And Bob has bitchtits.
I didn’t find it to be preachy.
I agree. Fight Club was a great movie, V for Vendetta sucked.
“Eight months ago, Bob’s testicles were removed. Then hormone therapy. He developed bitch tits because his testosterone was too high and his body upped the estrogen. And that was where I fit...”
Another theme that I thought was very important was the need to want your version to prevail more than the other party on a very deep motivational level. The need to climb out of the pit risk all in the task and really earn your freedom and success was beautiful. The winner of the fight is the guy that wants it the most and is willing to risk it all to win.
Absolute agree. What a bore fest that preachy mess was. And the mask was the best actor in it.
Well, I haven’t seen it yet, so can’t judge. And I wasn’t referring specifically to DKR, but to any movie. I go to movies to be entertained, and that is the only reason that I go.
If a movie agrees with me on these kind of issues, great. If not, I ignore those parts and watch the movie. If the disagreement is egregious enough, I leave.
If I know in advance that I am going to be offended, I don’t lay down my hard earned shekels.
From what I have experienced is previous Batman movies, I would probably go and enjoy even there were a liberal message to it.
In the meantime, if a conservative movie somehow slipped out of Hollywood, I say hooray.
Great! I agree, as long as it’s a good story.
His name is Bob Paulsen!
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