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Grammar sticklers may have OCD
The Web of Language Blog ^ | Sun, 24 Jun 2012 | By Dennis Baron

Posted on 07/28/2012 8:48:38 PM PDT by garjog

t used to be we thought that people who went around correcting other people’s grammar were just plain annoying. Now there’s evidence they are actually ill, suffering from a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD). Researchers are calling it Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome, or GPS.

Maybe you’ve heard of the grammar gene—its technical name is the FOXP2 gene—which may be responsible for a variety of grammatical ills, such as the inability to construct compound/complex sentences or to effectively deploy the passive voice. Now there’s evidence that a variant of that gene, FOXP2.1, may actually cause us to obsessively correct other people’s grammar, or should that be, to correct their grammar obsessively? The discovery of this gene, alongside new evidence from fMRI scans of brains exposed to real-time grammatical errors, has led some scientists to predict that soon we may be able to find a cure for GPS, for many sufferers a debilitating, off-putting, sociopathic syndrome.

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Do you find people who correct grammar and spelling annoying?


1 posted on 07/28/2012 8:48:42 PM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog

Where the hell is Grandpa?
I just see some fruity looking young guy, and a woman.


2 posted on 07/28/2012 8:54:32 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: garjog

On the other hand, it could be the literate losing patience with the illiterate, the lazy and the ignorant - which is as it should be.


3 posted on 07/28/2012 8:55:17 PM PDT by relictele
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To: garjog
Lettuce. Eat grandpa!


4 posted on 07/28/2012 8:56:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: garjog

The thread’s title should hava a period at the end.


5 posted on 07/28/2012 8:57:58 PM PDT by rickomatic
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Perhaps the fruity looking guy is the Son, but then Mom looks way to young.


6 posted on 07/28/2012 8:58:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: garjog
Yesterday's pearl from these very pages - third person singular in a thread title: "Say's" !
7 posted on 07/28/2012 8:59:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Is that you McLettuce?


8 posted on 07/28/2012 9:00:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: garjog

What is the name of the illness suffered by people who invent acronyms?


9 posted on 07/28/2012 9:03:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: garjog

Eats shoots and leaves.


10 posted on 07/28/2012 9:04:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: garjog

” The discovery of this gene,alongside new evidence from fMRI scans of brains exposed to real-time grammatical errors,has led some scientists to predict that soon we may be able to find a cure for GPS,for many sufferers a debilitating,off-putting, sociopathic syndrome.”

Ohhh horseee puckee ...


11 posted on 07/28/2012 9:05:52 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: All

12 posted on 07/28/2012 9:09:39 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: garjog
Comas save lives, you say?


13 posted on 07/28/2012 9:10:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: relictele

I agree.

I’m shocked that some people don’t know the difference between ‘their’,’there’ and ‘they’re’.

Or ‘your’ and ‘you’re’.


14 posted on 07/28/2012 9:11:16 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
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To: garjog

Given that more and more people are unable to spell or speak properly anymore, I’d have to question the timing and real motive of the story.

I find basic errors of spelling and grammar in major newspapers on a regular basis. Do they even have copy editors anymore? If they do, do the copy editors take any pride in their work?


15 posted on 07/28/2012 9:12:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: garjog

I routinely correct spelling errors on the fluoxetine prescriptions the doctor gives me. Also double and triple check the dosage.


16 posted on 07/28/2012 9:13:09 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: garjog
Grammar sticklers may have OCD

Really?
Grammar incompetents may have ADD.

So?

17 posted on 07/28/2012 9:14:35 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: garjog

There’s a sociopath in the White House, and these researchers are worried about Grammar Pedantry?


18 posted on 07/28/2012 9:14:42 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: steve86

” I routinely correct spelling errors on the fluoxetine prescriptions the doctor gives me. Also double and triple check the dosage”

Lol...


19 posted on 07/28/2012 9:16:05 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: garjog

Great! An excuse to make a mistook!


20 posted on 07/28/2012 9:18:26 PM PDT by paudio (OTP: Why do people want to rehire a mechanic who clearly only made their car worse than before?)
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To: mylife

Way too young. ;-)


21 posted on 07/28/2012 9:19:28 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: garjog
As a writer I have to say we have mixed feelings about these types as we both desperately need one another. lol. I am the visionary and they do all the 'house keeping.' So to say.

On the subject my husband is NOT a grammar corrector. But he does have both obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD) and both can be annoying especially the oppositional defiance disorder. The OCD makes him super conscientious and I really appreciate that. I have a little OCD myself. So I while I am not as bad, I do have empathy for his anxieties.

22 posted on 07/28/2012 9:20:12 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: garjog

I have CDO. It’s like OCD except the letters are in the correct order.


23 posted on 07/28/2012 9:24:34 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: oblomov
"There’s a sociopath in the White House, and these researchers are worried about Grammar Pedantry?"

Yeah, I wonder if Obamaophrenia -- the chronic inability to face the reality of Obama's failed leadership and complete incompetency -- will ever be cured?


24 posted on 07/28/2012 9:29:06 PM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog

Or maybe it’s because we are resentful of those who use incorrect grammar and spelling because it is compromising American culture and heritage. I’ve read criticism by people here at FR complaining about Black people who use Ebonics—FReepers who can barely write a clear, concise English sentence as they write their criticisms—I think the former are the Homer Simpsons of America.


25 posted on 07/28/2012 9:37:33 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: mylife

Damn. I distinctly remember this thread. Your comment in particular.

It’s like déjà vu all over again.


26 posted on 07/28/2012 9:37:53 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1285 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

Make it stop!


27 posted on 07/28/2012 9:41:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: garjog

So, we could have a form of OCD. We could have grammar pedantry syndrome or oppositional defiant disorder.

Or we could just be conservative traditionalists who hate to see this rich, beautiful, powerful language and the culture it represents consistently degraded by the victims of the government school system. We could see the erosion of literacy as symptomatic of a general decay in society and a loss of respect for the values of the past. We could just think these researchers are morons.


28 posted on 07/28/2012 9:42:53 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

“I’m shocked that some people don’t know the difference between ‘their’,’there’ and ‘they’re’.

Or ‘your’ and ‘you’re’.”

I’m with you 100%.

More of my pet peeves are the misapplication of “to” “too” and “two”.

And let us not forget the constant annoying misuse of “effect” and “affect”.

Then there is the misuse of apostrophes, particularly “it’s” when they really mean “its”. Or worse, overuse of apostrophes. Some people seem to want to use them in front of every “s” that ends any word.

I am personally guilty of overuse of commas. I’m an awful writer but I at least try to use the correct words.


29 posted on 07/28/2012 9:42:53 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: mylife

i don half a probam wif gramer notzees. spelin notzees bug me.


30 posted on 07/28/2012 9:43:34 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: relictele

It IS the literate losing patience with the illiterate, the lazy and the ignorant!! And boy, are we busy.


31 posted on 07/28/2012 9:45:12 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: relictele

It IS the literate losing patience with the illiterate, the lazy and the ignorant!! And boy, are we busy.


32 posted on 07/28/2012 9:45:36 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Cyber Liberty
LOL!

I have COD.


33 posted on 07/28/2012 9:45:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yeah, that really ticks me iff.


34 posted on 07/28/2012 9:47:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They do not take pride in their work. Syntax is disgusting; spelling is atrocious! I wonder if it is not done with pride and arrogance - ‘Forget the rules! Who needs them?”


35 posted on 07/28/2012 9:49:08 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Nik Naym
Zappa~Apostrophe
36 posted on 07/28/2012 9:50:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: relictele

“On the other hand, it could be the literate losing patience with the illiterate, the lazy and the ignorant.”

I think you are right. At least it is in my case.

I once corrected a poster right here on FR who in her post said she was a teacher and then misspelled a fairly common three syllable word.

My reply to her was “I hope you didn’t teach spelling”.

She got highly ticked off at me, and more or less said it doesn’t matter. This teacher said spelling was unimportant!

I am an awful writer but I was never a teacher or an English major and I still at least try to use the right words and spell them correctly.


37 posted on 07/28/2012 9:52:04 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: mylife

What? Again???


38 posted on 07/28/2012 9:52:57 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1285 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Nik Naym

M. Grammar. Is. Perfect.


39 posted on 07/28/2012 9:53:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: null and void

40 posted on 07/28/2012 9:54:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nik Naym
Insure and ensure are the twins to effect and affect.

Being concious of grammer makes one suseptable to being the company "proofreader". But it beats having the company put out something that sound like it was written by a 6th grader....

41 posted on 07/28/2012 9:56:32 PM PDT by par4
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To: par4

Indeed, you wouldn’t want to sounds like that. ;)


42 posted on 07/28/2012 9:59:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: steve86
I routinely correct spelling errors on the fluoxetine prescriptions the doctor gives me. Also double and triple check the dosage.

Sounds like a good idea, given what the Wikipedia says:

Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect with SSRIs. Specifically, side effects often include difficulty becoming aroused, erectile dysfunction, lack of interest in sex, and anorgasmia (inability to achieve orgasm). Genital anesthesia,[10] loss of or decreased response to sexual stimuli, and ejaculatory anhedonia are also possible. Although usually reversible, these sexual side effects can last for months, years, or permanence after the drug has been completely withdrawn.[11][YIPES!] This is known as Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction.

Of course, you could just turn off your spam filter, and remedies would flood your inbox.

43 posted on 07/28/2012 9:59:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: garjog

Frankly, I could care less is my advise!


44 posted on 07/28/2012 10:03:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: garjog

I suffer from Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome (GPS). I object to the use of ‘there” to mean “their” or “they’re,” and I refuse to use words such as “prequel” (the correct term is “antecedent” or “precursor”).


45 posted on 07/28/2012 10:05:06 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Revolting cat!

> What is the name of the illness suffered by people who
> invent acronyms?

AD or Acron’s Disease.


46 posted on 07/28/2012 10:06:10 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Fiji Hill

What about proactive in place of... GASP! anticipatory?


47 posted on 07/28/2012 10:06:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: garjog
Very interesting article.

Reminds me of one particular obnoxious drunk who floats by on a daily basis
displaying an amazing amount of OCD/ODD on a very narrow range of topics.
Laughably predictable behavior to the point of being an almost sure bet.
The grammar tie in to OCD/ODD is like the cherry on the icing on the cake
concerning this person.

Interesting indeed.

48 posted on 07/28/2012 10:11:13 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Fiji Hill

> . . . I refuse to use words such as “prequel” . . .

pre·quel [pree-kwuhl

noun

a literary, dramatic, or filmic work that prefigures a
later work, as by portraying the same characters at a
younger age.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prequel


49 posted on 07/28/2012 10:12:11 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: garjog

I used to know a gay bicyclist like that. I called him a pedaling pedantic pederast.


50 posted on 07/28/2012 10:13:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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