An area and distance weighted analysis of the impacts of station exposure on the U.S.( Temperatures)

Watts Up With That? ^ | July 29, 2012 | Anthony Watts

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Modified Title ....Press Release ....didn't explain much....for Free Republic posting.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

News Release for Dr. James Hansen....your DATA SUCKS BAD!!!

[762X51]

So global warming is a scam? Who knew?

[Marine_Uncle]

Thanks for posting this Ernest. Time for a bookmark to be applied, for pulling up in future. The known poor surface temperature methodology is so well documented at this point that leads to a fair statement, that no one can be trusted to provide accurate temperature gradient readings for any of the US areas, or the rest of earth for that matter.
We have been shown from different sources of reputable quality that in recent times, the measuring systems leave much to be desired as far as making accurate temperature readings for a given area. Plus so few are still active compared to say thirty years ago. And Canada has so many less as well as Europe and Asia. South America has been barely touched.
In short. The system has become a joke over time.

[YHAOS]

"So global warming is a scam? Who knew?"

Just about everyone from FR . . . that's who(m).

[hosepipe]

Actually the globe IS warming... for about 10 to 20 thousand years now..
ELSE the Great Lakes would be glaciers... and Montreal would be Ice Sculpture..

Of course humans had nothing at all to do with it..
But it is warming... or has been.. may be cooling presently..

You know... stuff happens..
Seems humanity generally is on a paranoid kick lately..
Like the earth will END, Slow down, everything turn to poop, apocalypse.. SOMETHING..

The entertainment never ends.. Whats not to like?..

[kidd]

The first response from alarmists will be:
“but the United States represents only 3% of the earth’s surface, so this doesn’t matter”

for which the correct retort is:
“the United States has the vast majority of temperature measurement stations. Because of this, United States stations are used to correct foreign stations for UHI effects. Thus nearly all foreign stations are using the wrong correction, one that shows too much heating”

[denydenydeny]

You mean my temperature station next to the blast furnace at the local steel mill is giving inaccurate readings?

[YHAOS]

"Actually the globe IS warming... for about 10 to 20 thousand years now.."

My understanding is that there has been an ever so slight cooling trend since Roman times.

[Sherman Logan]

Up during Roman times. Down during the Dark Ages (which may have had something to do with their Darkness). Then back up again during the Middle Ages and down during the Little Ice Age. Up for the last 150 or 200 years or so.

[BfloGuy]

Thanks for the post. I first heard of WUWT [probably through FR] when it was in the middle of the investigation into station siting. Glad to see all that work has led to something substantial.

And won't it be fun to watch the outrage when the paper's released?

[norwaypinesavage]

Way to go Anthony, et. al.

[LibertarianLiz]

I'm pretty sure that we, here, at FR knew; and, I would bet that everyone pushing this scam knew.

The problem is that the lies the alarmists told, and then the media amplified, got a lot of play very quickly. There was no real science to back it up.

And, therein lies the problem. Real science takes time. It takes time to set up an experiment/study. It takes time to accumulate the data. It takes time to study the data and figure out what it is telling you. You then put it out for fellow scientists to look at, study, and try to replicate. Then, and only then, do you have an idea about what is happening. None of that was done with "global warming".

So, some time has past, and some people are finally getting the data on this subject and it does not support the alarmists pov. Now, we are going to know about this study; but, the media will studiously ignore it.

[Rocky]

So this is what the notice was about on WUWT yesterday. Will be watching for reaction from Mann, et al.

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[VTenigma]

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[762X51]

Sorry, I forgot the sarcasm tag.

[hosepipe]

[ My understanding is that there has been an ever so slight cooling trend since Roman times. ]

Ambient temp. goes up and down every day. month, year, decade, millennium..
Its a matter of where you are and the season..
Yarns about trends are just that.. a good or bad story..

Could be true................. or not...

[palmer]

Mann may respond, but he is not station siting expert (and a poor statistician to boot). Realclimate, the Fenton communications propaganda site that Mann is part of, may respond quickly. They will probably pick on a dozen or so nits and then dismiss the results. Their “science” is necessary for the rest of the catastrophic warming crowd to publish their talking points, mostly on their own obscure blogs that only catastrophists care about.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I wasn't on the internet yesterday so this was the first thing I saw....looks like this is what you referred to:

WUWT publishing suspended – major announcement coming

Also

New paper on the quality of USHCN station siting