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Whatever Happened To Visibility?
TruthAboutCars.com ^ | January 17, 2011 | Edward Niedermeyer

Posted on 07/29/2012 5:17:54 PM PDT by central_va

So, to the designers and engineers in the house we ask: how important is reducing the amount of glass in a vehicle improve safety test performance? To what extent does this issue drive design? And to the consumers we ask: are you really asking for ever-tightening greenhouses in the name of fashion? Can you identify a point at which introducing more glass to a design makes a car look dorky but creating a tighter greenhouse hurts usability (and possibly even active safety)?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: beltline; cars; visibility
Ok, I haven't bought a car in awhile but recently I purchased a new '13 Mustang. I've owned 2 other Mustangs in the past. This is a good car,but my least favorite of the 3. I figured out why, it is the dang "beltline" being to high and the small windows. I just don't feel right in it. Like I am a Lilliputian.

Almost all the new cars are getting the gansta bling wheel look now. For those who drive on of these high beltline cars, will I ever get to like the interior feel?

1 posted on 07/29/2012 5:17:58 PM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va

I’ve often wondered in an emergency how easy it would be to get out of one of those cars with the tiny windows.


2 posted on 07/29/2012 5:21:27 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat

I’m starting to hate the whole trend. Seems stupid.


3 posted on 07/29/2012 5:22:54 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
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4 posted on 07/29/2012 5:25:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Good viability there!


5 posted on 07/29/2012 5:26:42 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cripplecreek

I feel like I need a tanker helmet.

6 posted on 07/29/2012 5:30:06 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cripplecreek

Even uglier from the front!

But you didnt have many blind spots !!


7 posted on 07/29/2012 5:32:22 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Delta 21

Its just an overinflated Gremlin.


8 posted on 07/29/2012 5:36:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: central_va

Try driving a tank (or a submarine).


9 posted on 07/29/2012 5:40:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: cripplecreek

10 posted on 07/29/2012 5:43:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: central_va

I had a friend who cut one down and made it into a truck. It was even 4 wheel drive. Bronco II frame I believe it was.


11 posted on 07/29/2012 5:44:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: antidemoncrat

With mustangs if anyone is in the back they just cut through the roof and peel it back.


12 posted on 07/29/2012 5:46:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: All


13 posted on 07/29/2012 5:46:39 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Paladin2

My grandpa drove an impala like that, except it was black.


14 posted on 07/29/2012 5:48:04 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

There’s nothing like a wrap-around windshield.


15 posted on 07/29/2012 5:50:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
I never really understood the need for visibility while I was driving a tank, after all Im DRIVING A TANK!

The laws of gross tonnage apply !!

16 posted on 07/29/2012 5:55:57 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Paladin2

No 6 inch wide ‘a’ pillar, how nice!


17 posted on 07/29/2012 5:56:11 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Driving one of these felt like driving from the back seat. Definitely weird.


18 posted on 07/29/2012 5:59:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: central_va

Yes, high-beltline bathtub cars (almost all of them) are for safety reasons.

The impossible-to-see corners and impossible-to-see-out-of rear windows are for aerodynamics. Everything on the road is going to be Prius-shaped. Rear view cams will be standard.


19 posted on 07/29/2012 6:04:11 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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It is not possible for me, so far, to drive my Mustang with confidence. I have to know what is around me or i become unsure which is not enjoyable. I cannot drive a bathtub with authority. Sucks to be me.


20 posted on 07/29/2012 6:08:28 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jjotto
Check out the high beltline of the new Taurus


21 posted on 07/29/2012 6:43:54 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Paladin2

I played with the dimensions to lower the beltline. To me it looks SOOO much better like this,

22 posted on 07/29/2012 6:47:10 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Paladin2
Here is the original:

Cars are just goofy now.

23 posted on 07/29/2012 6:49:15 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
I played with the dimensions to lower the beltline. To me it looks SOOO much better like this,

Were it not for the fact they've resurrected that dopey Gran Torino look. Flip the below-the-bumper opening and it looks pretty cool. Once again Ford took something that looked REALLY good (the late 2000s Mustangs) and like the late 1960s/early 1970s Mustangs really screwed it up, though not yet as badly as the vomitous Mustang II, may its originator burn forever in automotive hell.
24 posted on 07/29/2012 6:54:22 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: central_va

Even gonzo car mag reviewers regularly complain that those cool big wheels and low profile tires make the vehicles bounce like an old truck.

Those wheels and the long slit windows are just for a cool look, at least to the non-threatening males that design cars these days.


25 posted on 07/29/2012 7:07:01 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

The 55 Chevy design is back in style. High Beltline and all.

26 posted on 07/29/2012 7:22:37 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jjotto

Maybe a booster seat would help to be able to properly drape one’s left arm out the window.


27 posted on 07/29/2012 7:24:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Secret Agent Man

Would be ok if car wasn’t on fire.


28 posted on 07/30/2012 5:49:47 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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