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The Electronic Armageddon (EMP's)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | August, 02, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/02/2012 6:54:57 AM PDT by Perseverando

The Congressionally chartered Task Force on National & Homeland Security (FNHS) will be holding a nationwide webcast on The Electronic Armageddon: EMP. The webcast is a combined effort of the TFNHS, The United West and the New English Review. There is a distinguished panel of experts, new videos and a discussion of solutions for addressing both man-made and natural threats.

LIVE STREAM EVENT -FRIDAY- AUGUST 3, 2012 - 11am Est.

The Electronic Armageddon
Watch the Live broadcast right here at TheUnitedWest.org

Featured Guests :
R. JAMES WOOLSEY - Former Director, CIA
REZA KAHLILI - CIA Covert Operative
REP ROSCOE BARTLETT - House Armed Services Committee Chairman
DR. WILLIAM FORSTCHEN - NYT Best Seller of EMP Novel "One Second After"
AMB HENRY COOPER - Former Director of Strategic Defense Initiative Organization
FRITZ ERMARTH - Former Chairman National Intelligence Council
DR. WILLIAM R. GRAHAM - President Reagan's Science
Advisor, NASA Administrator Chairman EMP Commission


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KEYWORDS: emp; globaljihad; nationalsecurity; powergrid; preppers; shtf; survival; terrorism; wot
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Your solar panel’s wiring an circuitry is at risk. Keep spares in a grounded metal box, like a tool box. Spare circuits, not spare panels. ;-)


21 posted on 08/02/2012 8:49:34 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: meatloaf
We have about 1200 of those transformers in the U.S. They take 3 years to build after receipt of order. None are on order. There are no spares. A Carrington style event would wipe out 1/3 of the transformers...mostly in the northern tier states where the magnetic field provides less shielding from a CME impact.

My home is in that red spot in southeast Idaho. We already have power outages during significant thunderstorm activity. Our fresh water is pumped from sub-surface wells using electric pumps. If the power fails, we'll be making regular trips to the river to gather what we can. Purification will be necessary.

22 posted on 08/02/2012 8:55:39 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Huebolt

“It is theoretically IMPOSSIBLE for any electromagnetic impulse to pass through any conductive barrier, even the metallic screen wire on the old “screen door”.”

Maxwell begs to differ.


23 posted on 08/02/2012 8:57:08 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Perseverando

Reminds me I need to get a metal garbage can as a Faraday cage. I found out recently current attempt is a fail.


24 posted on 08/02/2012 8:57:19 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Da Coyote

“I’ve taught courses on this stuff...and your theory is correct...but remember that any small holes with conductors (wires, etc) leading into the “protected” space will allow the pulse (or at least selected frequencies of that pulse) to enter and do damage.”

At low enough frequencies, screen, even continuous foils will not stop a magnetic field from penetrating. It’s far more complicated than you are claiming.


25 posted on 08/02/2012 9:00:55 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Blueflag

We are getting an off grid system. Grid ties will get fried along with everything else.


26 posted on 08/02/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Myrddin

The other issue is that the only factory that made those transformers in the US was closed. The building in Muncie, IN is being used to build locomotives. Any replacemens for any of the main transformers a power plants will probably have to come from overseas, unless the utility has spares which is unlikely.

The other issue I’ve seen was a freak loss and restoration of load at a power plant that resulted in the generator core being twisted. The plant did no trip. Everything was fine until the plant shutdown.On startup the generator has significant vibration issues which could not be repaired on site, The rotor had to removed and shipped out for repair.

We’re going to see lots of unusual events when the grid goes down and circuits are overloaded when they try to compensate.


27 posted on 08/02/2012 10:05:28 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Huebolt
It is theoretically IMPOSSIBLE for any electromagnetic impulse to pass through any conductive barrier, even the metallic screen wire on the old “screen door”.

No. Go back to microwave engineering class.

The intensity on the far side of a cutoff waveguide is proportional to the inverse-square of the distance where the intensity is measured. Depending on the frequencies that make it up, and its intensity, EMP will cause some problems with screened electronics.

But that ain't the main problem.

The main problem is the so-called E3 pulse, the long-wavelength geomagnetic currents that are induced in the earth and in long electric wires. Those are powerful enough to burn out gigawatt power turbines. Ask the Russians about that one.

28 posted on 08/02/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Thanks to all for the info. I had to go without electricity for 29 hours due to storm damage and agree it is back to the stone age.

12 v.d.c. LED systems for backup seem ok for light, but all those other appliances are, as you say, goners.

It is a real problem that lead acid storage batteries are both expensive and short-lived. Static inverters are not bad.


29 posted on 08/02/2012 11:21:44 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“We are getting an off grid system. Grid ties will get fried along with everything else.”

There might still be trouble even on an isolated system. The wires leading from the panels (and perhaps the panels themselves) may act as antennas to harvest the EMP pulse, frying the charge controllers and inverters.


30 posted on 08/02/2012 1:48:57 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

Most of this EMP talk is hype.

All signals weaken exponentially with distance.

If you try to calculate how many EMP weapons would be required to cover the country, you get close to looking at infinity.

Be afraid, be very afraid.


31 posted on 08/02/2012 2:00:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Perseverando

Most of the people listed above are well known globalist shills. I wouldn’t take their advise if it came with free gold bars.


32 posted on 08/02/2012 2:04:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Perseverando

I will be at work when it’s broadcast. Will it be available for later viewing?


33 posted on 08/02/2012 7:12:07 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: danielmryan
If you're interested, he said that the only sure-fire Faraday cage was a solid box made of (preferably) copper or aluminum that, when closed, conducted electricity as if it had been welded shut. It has to be grounded with a nine-foot copper rod hammered into the earth and welded to the box itself through copper wire.

Are you sure about that grounding part?
34 posted on 08/02/2012 8:18:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Blueflag
The worst effect is not on what is naturally shielded, or intentionally shielded. The problem is that the long lines of the electrical grid, both transmission and distribution are pretty much perfect antennae for the various EMP pulses.

Modern cars, well grounded appliances and the natural shielding of commercial structures might indeed save electronics.

But the electric grid will go down. Without electricity USA society will collapse in three to nine days. It will take longer to get even portions of the grid back up.


I agree with all these points. Pipelines will also become antennae. I am concerned about the SCADA systems.
35 posted on 08/02/2012 8:23:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Perseverando

BTTT


36 posted on 08/02/2012 8:23:15 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Blueflag
Sorry ‘bout the double post!

Nah. It was worth repeating. Also the 90 day lay low estimate.
37 posted on 08/02/2012 8:24:50 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Blueflag; Georgia Girl 2
Your solar panel’s wiring an circuitry is at risk. Keep spares in a grounded metal box, like a tool box. Spare circuits, not spare panels. ;-)

The diodes will be at risk. You will need away to desolder and solder them. A good voltmeter with diode function will be helpful. A greater concern will be the FETS in your inverters.
38 posted on 08/02/2012 8:29:27 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: RFEngineer
Maxwell begs to differ.

Yep.
39 posted on 08/02/2012 8:32:51 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Georgia Girl 2
We are getting an off grid system. Grid ties will get fried along with everything else.

There is one major vulnerability and that is your grounding if you are still grid tied for power and solar for backup. This goes back to the NEC requirement that all grounding be common. I have gone with welding connectors to disconnect my inverters. It may still not be enough.
40 posted on 08/02/2012 8:36:33 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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