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The Cult of Chick-fil-A
Forbes ^ | 07.23.07 | Emily Schmall

Posted on 08/03/2012 12:26:40 PM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs

Yadkowski, 33, came to Chick-fil-A when he was living in a group foster home created by Chick-fil-A founder and chairman S. Truett Cathy. "I tell the kids, 'This is not just selling sandwiches; it pays for your upbringing,'" says Yadkowski, a hardworking, happily married Southern Baptist who plans to work with Chick-fil-A for life.

But Danielle Alderson, 30, a Baltimore operator, says she can't hire a good manager who, say, moonlights at a strip club because it would irk the company. "We are watched very closely by Chick-fil-A," she says. "It's very weird."

Is it legal? There are no federal laws that prohibit companies from asking nosy questions about religion and marital status during interviews.

Aziz Latif, a former Chick-fil-A restaurant manager in Houston, sued the company in 2002 after Latif, a Muslim, says he was fired a day after he didn't participate in a group prayer to Jesus Christ.

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1 posted on 08/03/2012 12:26:50 PM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

and here we go.....


2 posted on 08/03/2012 12:28:52 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Build a bridge, Emily, you whiny loser.


3 posted on 08/03/2012 12:29:55 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

‘Is it legal?” Um, sweets, We the People can start a business and hire anyone we want. It is called FREEDOM. You might look that up.


4 posted on 08/03/2012 12:32:54 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Is it legal? There are no federal laws that prohibit companies from asking nosy questions about religion and marital status during interviews.

Yes it is legal. Don't like, it go somewhere else.
5 posted on 08/03/2012 12:33:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

They actually do not get it. They don’t get it at all. We, their perceived enemies, aren’t just a few Christians they’ve captured and placed before the lions in sport in the Coliseum. Probably 100 million or more Americans, Americans tired of perverts, tired of undeserving minority preferences, tired of liberal madness, tired of sloth, avarice and greed.

CFA’s advocacy, shown by the support they’ve gotten isn’t purely a Christian thing - it’s decency, morals, and values - something the liberals don’t have and therefore cannot understand.


6 posted on 08/03/2012 12:34:58 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Is it legal? There are no federal laws that prohibit companies from asking nosy questions about religion and marital status during interviews.

You can prohibit your employees from smoking tobacco even off work hours.

In 2004/2005 there were liberal owned software firms that blacklisted those who'd voted for Bush.

There is no "hate" code for discriminating against someone's politics (race, creed, color, sex, and in some markets "sexual preference").

7 posted on 08/03/2012 12:35:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

This crap from Forbes?


8 posted on 08/03/2012 12:36:19 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
But Danielle Alderson, 30, a Baltimore operator, says she can't hire a good manager who, say, moonlights at a strip club because it would irk the company. "We are watched very closely by Chick-fil-A," she says. "It's very weird."

 

CFA should look very closely at any operator who thinks hiring a stripper for a management job (or ANY job) would be a good idea.

9 posted on 08/03/2012 12:36:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Is it legal? There are no federal laws that prohibit companies from asking nosy questions about religion and marital status during interviews.

Oh, now we hear about stuff like this? Now that the Left has a target (let's dig up dirt on CFA!)? The Dems and their propaganda arm (the "news" media) are getting very good at digging up dirt on their enemies (or making it up when they can't find any real stuff).

Someday, enough people are going to wake up and ask, "Why is it only on one side of the political spectrum that the media can dig up dirt?"

10 posted on 08/03/2012 12:36:56 PM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
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To: jeffc
From the article:

"They screen prospective operators for their loyalty, wholesome values and willingness to buy into Chick-fil-A's in-your-face Christian credo..."

Slanted article, anyone?

11 posted on 08/03/2012 12:40:49 PM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

It’s not surprising. I recently applied for a job in a business that is owned by the Southern Baptists and they wanted you to declare if you had “an association with alcohol”. I went by the store to ask some employees for a clarification and was told it isn’t a big deal they just want to make sure your behavior won’t embarrass them as a Christian employer.

I was still put off a bit by the question. I sometimes have a drink but I’ve never been drunk.


12 posted on 08/03/2012 12:41:42 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

BTW, this article is 5 years old.


13 posted on 08/03/2012 12:42:52 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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To: bboop

As far as I’m concerned we need to go back to the days when a business could refuse service to ANYONE for any reason. Someone will be along shortly to inform me that I’m a racist but I really couldn’t care less. A truly free market would quickly fill the niches.


14 posted on 08/03/2012 12:43:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Anti-Christian bigot alert.


15 posted on 08/03/2012 12:48:53 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe he should ask that question to the Obama Administration concerning Secret Service duty in Columbia. It looks like their off-duty activities ultimately hurt the image of the entire Secret Service.


16 posted on 08/03/2012 12:52:42 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: bboop
I don't know about you guys, but if I go into a place to eat or to a place where I am waited on by a person with dirty clothes, hardware on his/her face, dirty hair, tattoos, etc., I am not in a real hurry to go back.
17 posted on 08/03/2012 12:53:05 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: cripplecreek
As far as I’m concerned we need to go back to the days when a business could refuse service to ANYONE for any reason. Someone will be along shortly to inform me that I’m a racist but I really couldn’t care less. A truly free market would quickly fill the niches.

I AGREE! Freedom of association is much more important than not hurting someone's feelings!

The Jim Crow laws were simply overbearing and ridiculous; but the application of "civil rights" has become just as overbearing and ridiculous! As another FReeper said, the US Government has instituted that apparently two wrongs DOES make it right!
18 posted on 08/03/2012 12:54:37 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Sisku Hanne

How long before Steve Forbes yanks it?


19 posted on 08/03/2012 12:55:45 PM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Utterly moronic nonsense. Guess the concept of Personal Property is complete alien to these idiot iq level Leftists. You have NO right to demand a private business be run to suit your bigoted emotion based political dogmas.

Get a grip clown posse. Don't like Chic-Fil-A don't eat there. It these neo-Facist idiots who think they can dictate their political dogmas to everyone else that are the threat here, not Chic-Fil-Al.

20 posted on 08/03/2012 1:02:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ExTxMarine
As another FReeper said, the US Government has instituted that apparently two wrongs DOES make it right!

Anti smoking laws in private businesses is a prime example. Rather than letting the market correct with free businessmen opening non smoking bars, government steps in and makes all of them non smoking. In Michigan it was a bit more shady with casinos lobbying for the non smoking laws then getting exemptions for themselves.
21 posted on 08/03/2012 1:02:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

feh. I quit reading at the moonlighter who was upset they can’t hold two jobs with different companies. EVERY company I have ever worked for has said you work full time for us you cannot work at all for anyone else.

You don’t want to work there then don’t


22 posted on 08/03/2012 1:04:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: MNJohnnie
Guess the concept of Personal Property is complete alien to these idiot iq level Leftists. You have NO right to demand a private business be run to suit your bigoted emotion based political dogmas.

Ever heard of smoking bans? And lots of so called conservative FReepers support them.

23 posted on 08/03/2012 1:08:13 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I read the employer’s side of the story about the muslim guy who was fired

he was a lazy slacker who failed to show up for trainings and meeting so they fired him

when he sued for discrimination, the company settled to save legal costs

haven’t we all heard these types of stories before..


24 posted on 08/03/2012 1:10:41 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

A good fast-food store manager shouldn’t have to moonlight at a strip club anyway.


25 posted on 08/03/2012 1:16:25 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
But Danielle Alderson, 30, a Baltimore operator, says some fellow franchisees find that Chick-fil-A butts into its workers' personal lives a bit much. She says she can't hire a good manager who, say, moonlights at a strip club because it would irk the company.

A manager that moonlights at a strip club? Note to self - avoid this particular Chick fil A.

26 posted on 08/03/2012 1:21:29 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: RichInOC

One of my high school teachers owned a strip club.


27 posted on 08/03/2012 1:27:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Being a part-time stripper might hurt your employment chances at a lot of places! Especially for a management track position


28 posted on 08/03/2012 1:28:19 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: cripplecreek
One of my high school teachers owned a strip club.

Awesome...did you get a student discount?

29 posted on 08/03/2012 1:30:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

He was actually a petty decent math teacher as you would expect any successful business owner to be.

My favorite science teacher owned a construction business.


30 posted on 08/03/2012 1:39:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Anti smoking laws in private businesses is a prime example.

Perfect example! My wife and I used to go to a little hole-in-the-wall bar that was within walking distance from the house, back when we lived in Arlington. When we first went there, smoking was limited to one end of the building and outside. They had one pool table on that side of the place, but three on the other end. Apparently, thinking that they could up their patronage, they started allowing smoking everywhere - we stopped going, except for a quick, after work drink. They finally asked us why we never came to the pool tournaments anymore and I told them - THE SMOKE.

I didn't demand that he not allow smoking - it was his bar, run it like you want. But, I too get to choose where I spend my time and my money. We found a bar that didn't allow smoking in the pool area. I am not against smoking - I like a good cigar - but, I don't want it blurring my vision when I am shooting pool. Let the consumer DECIDE!
31 posted on 08/03/2012 1:43:06 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

As far as I’m concerned we need blacks only or gays only restaurants. All are good for the economy if all are free to do the same or not. I certainly have no problem walking on by.


32 posted on 08/03/2012 1:49:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SMARTY

I am not in a real hurry to go back.”

There are several places where we have simply gotten up and left. If anyone approaches us about why we are leaving, and it is anyone other than the manager, we just say we changed our mind. I have on occasion obtained the name of the manager or owner of the business and written them a very polite letter stating they are certainly free to run their business as they please but we chose to leave and won’t return because ......” What I have noticed is that some of these places are no longer in business, a couple of others I am told have changed management and cleaned up their act.


33 posted on 08/03/2012 1:58:15 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: cripplecreek
As far as I’m concerned we need blacks only...restaurants.

Hell, we practically have blacks only cities! I have written before about a friend of mine who is a retired Michigan county deputy. He would transport prisoners in and out of Detroit and was told SPECIFICALLY to avoid certain sections, streets and districts - especially at night! We are talking about ARMED, MARKED police cars that were under orders to NOT go into an area! What the hell is that about?!?!?

I was driving from Laredo back towards Houston. I stopped at a gas station near downtown San Antonio. I had a cop car pull up behind me and turn on his lights. He asked me what I was doing in this neighborhood; I explained that I was driving through and needed gas. He said, "I will stay until your are done, but you need to leave as soon as possible." He sat behind me with lights on until I pulled out and he followed me back to the highway! WTH?!?!?
34 posted on 08/03/2012 2:08:39 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Let the consumer DECIDE!”

I agree. We have a great locally owned place on the Texas Gulf Coast that allows smoking throughout the restaurant. Food is awesome. There is another restaurant right across the street that is totally non smoking. Both are jammed all the time. We have run across some small towns in Colorado that do not allow smoking anywhere inside or outside within the city limits. Many of their smaller family owned restaurants are now closed. Their towns, their rules, we just don’t go there any more.


35 posted on 08/03/2012 2:09:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

My wife took the kids up to the Chick-Fil-A in Burlington, MA for lunch today. They left the house late and got there after normal lunch hour. She called to say there were no protesters and the restaurant seemed to have a good number of customers for off hours.


36 posted on 08/03/2012 2:14:00 PM PDT by fso301
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To: ExTxMarine

I spent a few months in Frisco back in the mid 80s. There were a few “Mexican only” cantinas in the area back then and that was a dry county back then. My friend told me that I was the wrong color to drink in there. If we wanted to drink we had his sister bring alcohol to town on her way home from work on the far side of the county line.


37 posted on 08/03/2012 2:16:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ExTxMarine

As a native Detroiter, I’m not surprised. That’s almost as bad as Paris. There are no-go areas that the French police steer clear of.


38 posted on 08/03/2012 2:32:01 PM PDT by Ax
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To: ExxonPatrolUs; xzins
But Danielle Alderson, 30, a Baltimore operator, says she can't hire a good manager who, say, moonlights at a strip club because it would irk the company.

Hey Danielle, nobody forced you to buy into a CFA franchise. You knew the rules going in and you signed on the dotted line.

If you don't like it, then sell it. I'm sure that CFA will be able to find you a suitable buyer who doesn't have the desire to hire managers who moonlight as strippers.

BTW if CFA is like any other Fast Food enterprise the managers don't have time to moonlight as gay strippers and quasi-prostitutes in shadowy seedy bars. I would think that CFA Managers are expected to be available for work anytime 24 hours a day, and when you are dancing in a strip club, you are not exactly ready to drop everything and run to the restaurant. Well maybe you've already dropped everything, but you can't show up for work dressed like that.

39 posted on 08/03/2012 2:35:06 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Grams A

That’s not the towns. As a state, Colorado banned tobacco from public places, including bars and restaurants in 2006.


40 posted on 08/03/2012 2:36:38 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How Much Does a Chick-Fil-A Franchise Cost?

http://franchises.about.com/b/2009/05/22/how-much-does-a-chick-fil-a-franchise-cost.htm

“Got $5000 laying around? Then you can forget the burgers and throw your money down on a license to operate a Chick-Fil-A. But get in line. Chick-Fil-A only gives about 75 of the 10,000 applicants per year the right to operate a franchise, and along with this right comes strict stipulations.

Your store will be closed on Sunday to give employees a day off to rest or worship. You will not own the property upon which the store sits, nor will you be allowed to select your location. Investment information is conspicuously missing from the company’s website as well as the net, but good credit with a proven business track record will get you considered for a franchise. You will have to surender a whopping 50% of the monthly net profits.

If you looking for a low cost franchise and low on cash, maybe Chick-Fil-A is the way to go. As long as you don’t mind giving away 50% of the net profits (income after expenses.) You may feel more like a Chick-Fil-A employee, but you are only risking the $5000 franchise fee. “


41 posted on 08/03/2012 2:38:13 PM PDT by RummyChick
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42 posted on 08/03/2012 2:41:52 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Every newsreader on TV, from local news to cable giants, has a morals clause.

They can’t go into a strip club.

Is that legal?

YES.

So, when they read this crap story on the news tonight, know that they know exactly how off base this story really is.


43 posted on 08/03/2012 2:47:08 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Melas

Wasn’t aware that it was a state wide rule. Surprises me because we have happened onto some very small towns in mountainous areas where people in the bar were smoking. Two cities didn’t even allow smoking outside though. Looked into buying a lot and building a retirement home in Pagosa Springs. Beautiful area but more pages in the city and state building and EPA codes than are in Obamacare. So not going to do that.


44 posted on 08/03/2012 2:47:45 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: silverleaf
Being a part-time stripper might hurt your employment chances at a lot of places! Especially for a management track position

I knew a dancer/stripper years ago who was a kindergarten teacher.....she was great at both professions.

45 posted on 08/03/2012 3:10:19 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Forbes has turned LEFTY.


46 posted on 08/03/2012 3:45:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Danielle Alderson sounds like a NUTCASE!!! She’s damned LUCKY that Chik hasn;t broomed her.


47 posted on 08/03/2012 3:47:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

When I went to CFA on Wednesday there was an older guy behind the counter working his butt off. Later I looked at their website because I was going to place an online order for work. There was a picture of the owner; yep, the old guy behind the counter. I have a strong suspicion that this would be an excellent company to work for. The employees or way to cheerful for it to be too bad.


48 posted on 08/03/2012 6:06:10 PM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

The employees ARE way to cheerful for it to be too bad.


49 posted on 08/03/2012 6:07:20 PM PDT by suthener
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Firstly: Steve Forbes persoanlly edits Frobes.com? Who knew, LOL! Secondly: Don’t you know that the only articles you can reliably count on to get flushed down the memory hole involve Dems and their scandals? Anything negative about Christians, Conservatives or Republicans will linger online until it grows moss.


50 posted on 08/03/2012 6:54:50 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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