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Itís Beer Thirty FReepers! Time For The Homebrewing / Wine Making Thread #10 August 3, 2012
Free Republic | 8/03/2012 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 08/03/2012 3:37:07 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good afternoon/evening FReepers. Yep, it is Beer Thirty Time Once Again!

Happiness is a bubbling airlock!

 

BEER


Good evening/afternoon brewers and winemakers. I have had to donate my funds used to buy my ingredients to brew a beer this week to repair the AC in my wife’s car. Got to keep her happy in this 100-degree weather in NW Texas. So no brewing this week for me. She does not like beer at all but likes a nice wine every now and then. She also is a very big fan of Black Cherries. I was thinking about making a Cherry wine or soda for her to have while I enjoy one of my beers. Anybody have recommendations on a good soda/wine recipe using Black Cherries?

We are having some Jack grilled Daniel’s Honey Teriyaki marinated chicken with grilled zucchini tonight. I will have a homemade Porter with mine. Wife will have sweet tea.

I hope all of you and your Brews and Wines are doing well. Stop by and share what you are brewing or let us know what your favorite brew, wine or spirit is.


TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS: beer; homebrewing; weekly; wine

1 posted on 08/03/2012 3:37:24 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; hemogoblin; ..

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2 posted on 08/03/2012 3:38:31 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Not homemade, but I’m enjoying a nice Whitehaven (New Zealand) Pinot Noir right at the moment. Very good value for $18, drinks like a much more expensive Pinot. :<)

By the way, I tried Sierra Nevada’s new Hoptimum at The Beer Trappe yesterday; very good, worth a taste if it’s available in your area.


3 posted on 08/03/2012 3:47:20 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yeah make your own beer/wine and grow your own tobacco..
You know... as an ornamental plant... (sniff!)...


4 posted on 08/03/2012 3:52:25 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Mmmm! It’s a hot afternoon and perfect for a cold Pils!


5 posted on 08/03/2012 3:53:11 PM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
p.s. Just got back from Wiltshire in Britain. We visited Stonehenge, Avebury, West Kennett Long Barrow, Glastonbury, and LOTS of country pubs. I liked the cider even better than the beer.....many brands available, including small local makers. It's worth a trip back just to drink the cider.

The best beer I had there was Palmer's Best Bitter...which I hadn't heard of before. Wadworth had the lion's share of the local market, but Palmer's was much better!


6 posted on 08/03/2012 3:55:41 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The Mustang grapes here are bare this year. Crop is sparse to say the least. I was hoping to pick several gallons and make wine again this year.
7 posted on 08/03/2012 4:08:19 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I am growing 8 varieties of Hops this year.

I did not purchase hops rhizomes but instead got plants early this year with fully formed roots.

Highly highly recommend Great Lake Hops for the purchase.

As of now......I have lots and lots of hop cones forming on the plants and they are growing crazy. This is the FIRST year of the plants.

I got them from their Ebay store but also found their Facebook site.

https://www.facebook.com/GreatLakesHops


8 posted on 08/03/2012 4:17:08 PM PDT by Jayster
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To: Red_Devil 232

This is the Best Thing That Ever Happened To Beer...According 2 Gunny G !!!!!

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/95194/

Semper Beer !!!!!
*****


9 posted on 08/03/2012 4:21:16 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Arrowhead1952; JustaDumbBlonde

Are the Mustang grapes the same as Muscadine grapes? JustaDumbBlonde from the gardening thread says she has a bumper crop of Musdadines and plans on making a Mead with them. She has gallons and gallons of honey! Any advice for her?


10 posted on 08/03/2012 4:48:07 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: hosepipe

Heh-heh!


11 posted on 08/03/2012 4:48:22 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Jayster

I thought hops were a Northern cool weather crop. Can they be grown anywhere?


12 posted on 08/03/2012 4:53:20 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Renfield

Brit cider is great! I had some of the “imported” cider when I was in Garmisch, Germany, and it’s still memorable.


13 posted on 08/03/2012 4:55:04 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

This is a great website for home brewing and wine making supplies. Everything from grains to hops. I’m lucky enough to be within driving distance.

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/


14 posted on 08/03/2012 5:01:43 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Renfield

I was so young (17 in 1964) when I visited England I was not able to appreciate their Beers or the countryside. Only three days there on the second leg of an around the world trip.


15 posted on 08/03/2012 5:14:29 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: unixfox

I was just on that site today. What do you recommend from them for a extract brewer?


16 posted on 08/03/2012 5:17:45 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

a few years ago I was considering growing hops at home (central Fla) and so I did!

I had been advised that hops wouldn’t grow in Fla—maybe not a good idea commercially, but I planted few rhizomes in March and the bines were about 15’ tall by end of July/1st August, and growing.

That was the year of the hop shortage/skyhigh prices...

Did well for homebrewing purposes a few years, eventually lost them all one hot,non-rainy summer for lack of an irrigation system while away for a few weeks.

Sandy soil, good drainage, needs constant water/fertilizer though here.

Me, sometimes, extract/steep grains brewer...

Don’t believe all the homebrewer bs—more dos and donts than a dog has fleas—boil the hops; NOT the extract malt—see steve bader instructions online...

Semper Brewing!
*****


17 posted on 08/03/2012 5:32:36 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I am growing hops for a friend of my son’s who makes beer. They are in their third year and seem to be doing just fine here on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, zone 7A.


18 posted on 08/03/2012 5:42:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Can anyone give me advice. I am considering making banana beer. (Not banana bread beer. I have seen that reference during a search. Sounds bad.)


19 posted on 08/03/2012 5:45:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

“I thought hops were a Northern cool weather crop. Can they be grown anywhere?”

They can grow most anywhere but some varieties do better in certain climates.

Good soil, good drainage and good watering is the key from everything that I have read.

This is my first year growing in the Sacramento/El Dorado Hills area and it is hot here and they are thriving.

They also can be grown as decorative vines and smell great.

Additionally they are perennial and come back every year and you can pull some roots out of mature plants and grow more and more and give to friends.

The roots can go crazy.


20 posted on 08/03/2012 5:48:24 PM PDT by Jayster
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To: Red_Devil 232
Five reasons not to brew your own beer:

Spaten Premium
Franziskaner Weissbeir
Moose Drool
ESB
Brau Brother's Moo Joos

21 posted on 08/03/2012 6:11:09 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Red_Devil 232

They have a multitude of malts. I usually brew IPA’s and Pales so I use a lot of amber malts and pale malts.

You can probably narrow it down to what you want on their search bar.


22 posted on 08/03/2012 6:14:10 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

Thanks


23 posted on 08/03/2012 6:57:36 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Sawdring

One reason is very a fresh brew and and an a accomplishment.


24 posted on 08/03/2012 7:01:21 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Jayster

Neat. I guess they can be grown in a raised bed garden also? sounds interesting. How do I start?


25 posted on 08/03/2012 7:05:43 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: gunnyg
"boil the hops; NOT the extract malt"

=============================================

So simple and obvious yet this has never occurred to me. Many thanks! You have just changed my life.

26 posted on 08/03/2012 7:58:22 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Bigg Red
Whoa, that sounds seriously weird.

Back some 35 years ago in my misspent youth a friend and I made marijuana wine. It was very tasty and packed a wallop.

27 posted on 08/03/2012 8:05:11 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Update on my hopslam adventure:

So my honey brew refused to ferment I think due to cheap costco chinese honey which is rumored to contain antibiotics which I surmise killed my yeast.

After adding yeast several times with no success 2 weeks ago out of desperation I added a massive amount of bread yeast, at least 10 times the average amount.

It seems to be doing the trick but the flavor is not as good, but at least I won't have to dump it down the drain.

I think I'm done with this recipe for awhile.

Next up will be a nice reliable IPA.

28 posted on 08/03/2012 8:14:09 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Manic_Episode

You can’t miss with an IPA!


29 posted on 08/03/2012 8:46:36 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; JustaDumbBlonde
Are the Mustang grapes the same as Muscadine grapes?

I don't know, but what we call Mustang grapes grow wild here. They often kill trees with their heavy vines. JADB, sell the honey at your local farmers' market.

30 posted on 08/04/2012 4:55:52 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’d been to Britain twice before, same sort of situation....so this time I made it a point to spend as much time in the local pubs as possible :<)


31 posted on 08/04/2012 5:18:35 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Manic_Episode

Back in the 1950s, my parents brought some home from a visit to the Bahamas. Recently, a whiff of some very ripe bananas brought back the memory of it, and I wondered if I could make some. Not too much help on the Internet, but perhaps I did not search well....


32 posted on 08/04/2012 5:25:01 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Just finished bottling my first ever brew. Summer Wheat Ale. Now wait two weeks and see :). I tried some and it actually tasted like beer.. though flat.

Next round will be in a 5 gal batch with a keg. Bottling was kind of a pain...


33 posted on 08/04/2012 6:14:08 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: gunnyg

Thanks,
I looked up Steve Bader’s article, “Boil the hops, not the Malt Extract!” I may use it for next weeks thread topic.


34 posted on 08/04/2012 6:43:00 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Here’s a coupla more old sites of mine on “BEER” w/a lotta info posted—may have something useful to some of you beer fiends out there.

;)
Dick Gaines
aka; Gunny G
*****

http://www.network54.com/Forum/605099/
http://www.network54.com/Forum/605099/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/605303/
http://www.network54.com/Forum/605303/

Semper Beer !!!!!
*****


35 posted on 08/04/2012 7:51:46 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Arrowhead1952

The Mustang and Muscadine grapes are from the same family and genus but are different species. The Muscadine also grows wild all over the south.


36 posted on 08/04/2012 8:03:12 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We may well have Muscadine here. There are huge vines on many trees here. The winery at Tow, Tx was started by a guy visiting from Ca. He saw how great the grapes were growing near Lake Buchanan, bought some land and grafted Ca grapes onto the existing vines. He had gold medal wines in three years.


37 posted on 08/04/2012 9:28:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I'm having a new appreciation for Wernesgruener (from Aldi), the BEST 5.99 (!!!) six pack out there. A TRUE north German pilsner, very comparable to Bitberger or Koenig.


38 posted on 08/04/2012 12:45:43 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Cherry wine? One of my favorites. We currently have a white cherry wine and a red cherry wine in primary. Tomorrow we are doing 2 6 gallon batches of cherry mead, one sweet and one dry.

I think I have picked almost a hundred lbs of cherries this year, all of them wild. For the wines we did a 5 gallon bucket of cherries which is about 30 lbs each. For our mead we are only using about 15 lbs per batch. We don’t really have much of a recipe but here is the basics for what we do.

Cherry Wine
30 lbs cherries
10 lbs table sugar
1 tsp pectic enzyme
1 tsp acid blend
5-6 camden tablets

wash and sort cherries and put them in a pot with a little bit of water, heat them slowly and mash them with a potato masher. Put the other ingredients into the carboy. When the cherries are good and smashed we cool the cherries and dump them all into the carboy and then top with water to the desired level. We usually pitch the next day.

That is our grand recipe. :)


39 posted on 08/04/2012 2:30:17 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: pennyfarmer

Almost forgot. We throw in a can of grape juice concentrate also. Just frozen from the store.


40 posted on 08/04/2012 2:32:39 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I grew three towers here in dry ass Utah, each tower had 4 vines. I had cascade (huge producer), Willamette, and nugget. I would get about 2 dry lbs from the cascade and about 8 oz of willamette, and about the same from the nugget. Some hops produce better if you have other plants nearby to pollinate.

Neighbors thought it was a series of radio antennas. The towers were 17’ high and had a sliding collar on the pole so that I could raise the lines and then train the vines onto them. When harvest time came I could just drop the vines to the ground. First year I had to carry 5 gallon buckets of water out to them, second year I set up irrigation with mushroom head soakers at each vine.


41 posted on 08/04/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Jayster

Are they a vine and needing support?


42 posted on 08/04/2012 3:15:32 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: pennyfarmer

Hey thanks for that recipe. How long does it take until it can be drinkable?


43 posted on 08/04/2012 3:28:31 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

They are a vine yes and grow on just about anything.

I have mine growing on twine that I attached to my 2nd floor roof with I Bolts.

They grow clockwise and that is the way that you start/train them.


44 posted on 08/04/2012 4:37:52 PM PDT by Jayster
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To: Jayster

That is good info. I guess they could be grown horizontal on something also?


45 posted on 08/04/2012 4:50:16 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We are going to move the wines to secondary after about 3 - 4 weeks and then we will bottle after about 3 months. I think our plan is to bottle end of November. They are usually drinkable then but certainly get better after a couple of months in the bottle.


46 posted on 08/04/2012 5:33:58 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: pennyfarmer

Thanks!


47 posted on 08/04/2012 6:11:33 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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