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Posted on 08/03/2012 11:03:19 PM PDT by MacMattico

I did it. I'm ready for the flames.

I put a Romney bumper sticker on my car. But no cash from me until/if a decent VP is chosen.

I'm in upstate NY. I was ready for the comments as I had to travel all over today.

Eight people made comments, and one that made my gaydar go off gave me an "I don't think so girlfriend" look.

Of the eight that spoke, one screamed out "Obama!" which just made me laugh, and the remaining 7 said, to sum up "Yeah, Obamas got to go." One said it with a sigh as if he was greatly disappointed having voted for the President previously. Two of the seven that liked my sticker also told me I was brave and to be careful with that sticker on my car, which is sad in the USA.


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So, in liberal NY my unscientific survey of 8 reveals 7 Romney supporters, but the sad part was it was like they had to reveal this to me quietly, tell me I was "brave" for sporting a GOP nominee sticker on my car and told to be "careful".
1 posted on 08/03/2012 11:03:26 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Good for you. For better or worse, Romney is the GOP nominee and is only who can beat 0bama at this stage. We all need to follow my tagline.


2 posted on 08/03/2012 11:07:25 PM PDT by GR_Jr. (Vote Obama out now.....deal with Romney later.)
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To: MacMattico

Just more proof how hateful and fascist the Leftists are.

They will attack you eventually-—They are rather bold now a days with their god in office-—but this whole Chick Fil A thing—shook their confidence a little.


3 posted on 08/03/2012 11:09:22 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: MacMattico

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4 posted on 08/03/2012 11:11:19 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Gold Baby, Gold!)
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To: MacMattico

I'm not willing to take your step, but I'm FAR from the only one sporting THIS bumper sticker....

5 posted on 08/03/2012 11:18:04 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: MacMattico

Where in upstate NY? I live in Orange Cty. Two yrs ago I put a decal of Calvin peeing on 0bama on the back window of my car. In case 0bammy’s proposed civilian army wants to know it’s a slightly modified ‘07 Cobalt, silver with black racing stripes, rear spoiler, low res exhaust and dark tinted windows, ARREST ME! I’ve yet to receive a single negative comment and I occasionally drive through less than desirable neighborhoods. In fact I’ve gotten quite a few compliments and people asking me where they can get one. I don’t see too many 0bama stickers, other than an occasional Prius or Subaru zipping back and forth on I-84, usually with Mass or Vermont tags.


6 posted on 08/03/2012 11:18:30 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: MacMattico

I’m ready for the flames.
***Does your bumper sticker say, “I support a lying, baby-killing statist, but at least he has an R in front of his name”?


7 posted on 08/03/2012 11:23:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: savagesusie

My husband’s finally come around to voting for Romney, but he thinks that especially in some of the places I have to drive to, my cars going to get trashed or I might get hurt. I told him I ‘m not going to back down, I have put a bumper sticker for President on every car I or my family has had ever since I can remember. My father freaked out when at 9 I was attempting to put a Reagan bumper sticker on his new, expensive car. He loved Reagan but didn’t want to disturb the paint! We came to a compromise and I was allowed to put the sticker inside the car, on the back window, with scotch tape!


8 posted on 08/03/2012 11:33:06 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Kevmo
How’d you know, that's exactly what it says!/S

Strange all the libs HATE Romney, yet I'm suppose to sit it out and let Obama continue his permanent take over from within.

9 posted on 08/03/2012 11:44:18 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Just be careful. Maybe “Runaway Slave” will wake up the useful idiots. (Just hoping). Hope is the necessary ingredient in today’s life.


10 posted on 08/03/2012 11:49:32 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Impala64ssa
Farther upstate, probably you'd see it as Northern NY or Central NY but where I have to travel are some little centers of upstate communists!!
11 posted on 08/03/2012 11:52:53 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Maybe if you support a conservative rather than a lying, baby-killing statist then the situation would be different.

You encouraged flames. Supporting a librul candidate on a conservative website is a good way to generate them.


12 posted on 08/03/2012 11:55:02 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

Conservatives have to survive under the next administration, too. Yes, this is a conservative website so why so many people here insist on keeping the worst, farthest left President in office by their lack of vote or vote for Virgil Goode, Ross Perot in disguise, is beyond me.


13 posted on 08/04/2012 12:07:46 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I have had this posted on a number of threads but the open offer stands. The first person to explain to me how it is that a conservative can vote for a liberal without abandoning what he believes in to do so will get me to vote for Romney.

Today on another thread there was another story about the GOP being hesitant over the funding of zerocare. Bhoner is once again at it with the trial balloons and excuses. Now I think you agree that Bohner and the GOP should stick to their principles-the GOP platform, correct?

So logically and without the ‘fear of Obama excuse’ explain to me why we should vote for a person that has the record of MR and his thoroughly documented history of oposition to conservatism.

By compromising what we believe in out of fear of the crazy democrat, we collectively put into power the very people who repeatedly sell out this country. That cannot rationally be argued against. So why do you feel that by electing a man farther left than McConnel/Bohner and literally every other RINO in Washington, that somehow ‘good’ will result?

I would submit to you that since 10, the GOP has had the full and complete ability to shut down every unlawful act, overreach of power and utter usurpation of the Obama Admin. And I would likewise ask you in all honesty, why you would think that such a congress would rein in their own party leader’s liberalism when they have documented refused to do so with the opposition?

No, I do not want Obama reelected. And I do not want a liberal like Romney who shares MANY of Obama’s ‘values’ and policies (abortion/homosexuals/gun control/mandates) to be empowered either.

And until someone does better than ‘Obama is the Antichrist- (though he well may be) I am not going to again help the GOP move left. Because no one can say with a straight face that electing the most liberal ‘Republican’ to ever run under the party’s banner will move it to the right or even keep it ‘centered’.

And if America is stupid enough to do it, they will do it without my help.


14 posted on 08/04/2012 12:46:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MacMattico

Good for you! I’m the opposite. I’ve already contributed a few $ to Mr. Anybody But Obama (what was his name again? Mitt or something?) but no bumper sticker yet. I’m waiting to put one up until after we visit my uber-liberal sister- and brother-in-law so I don’t have to take unnecessary guff from them.


15 posted on 08/04/2012 1:01:29 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

So how does that square with “Be Brietbart Baby!” from your tagline. I never thought AB based his activism or opinions on what overbearing family members had to say.

Your choice of course and you are welcome to do so. But lets be honest with each other shall we? It does not seem Brietbart’ish to me at all.

And he pretty much worked himself to death standing for what he believed in.


16 posted on 08/04/2012 1:11:04 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
I'd like to join Commander Riker in expressing my appreciation at your most cogent post:


17 posted on 08/04/2012 2:32:34 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Old Sarge

And I appreciate the support from yourself and Commander Riker ;)

I also would like someone to explain to me the logic in all these TEA Party rallies, all the Talk Radio and all the ‘name’ conservatives giving us the full monty sales pitch on why we need to send rabid right wing pit bulls to Congress, yet when it comes to their leader, well, the lib will do. Schizophrenic much?

Does any thinking person believe, I mean really in their heart and rational mind BELIEVE that makes one iota of sense? “We want a CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT!!! ...but we’ll vote for the biggest lib the party ever ran because...well we have to!

Gee...I wonder WHY the GOP keeps sending us more liberal libs.

And of course last time we HAD to vote for McCain because of the crazy Democrat. (And I dutifully did because of Palin). Before that Bush because of the crazy Dems Gore/Kerry. Before that it was Dole because of the Crazy dem. Each time the GOP candidate was more and more liberal. Gee #2: there’s a pattern here. In 2016 the GOP will be running a registered Democrat or an open Marxist. Why? Because the Crazy Democrat on the other side will be crazy, destroy America ect.

Duh. That’s what they do. They are Democrats. So what? We elect one of our own who is lockstep lib because he’s our lockstep lib?

Fact: The Dems will ALWAYS run a crazy man/woman. It’s who they are.

Fact: If we keep voting for liberal Republicans out of fear of the crazy democrat, we ARE crazy Democrats.

No matter what happens it’s going to hella suck. People are going to lose lots of everything. Anyone hoping a miracle will happen under ‘our’ liberal are living in a fantasy. There will be no magic bullet. We can either take the pain now or take worse pain in the future. But there WILL be pain.
The smart thing is to stop the bleeding and tend the wound. But it seems that many want to just let it fester and then in 4 years, the dems elect the crazy dem even crazier than this one and guess what? Just like the last 4 times “We have to vote for X or the country burns!!!”

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome. We DO have a choice. We can vote for a conservative, or even a semi conservative, take the pain, and begin to rebuild. Or we can ride the train to hell on different tracks.

And again, I defy anyone to show me where any of the above is logically incorrect.


18 posted on 08/04/2012 3:02:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
And again, I defy anyone to show me where any of the above is logically incorrect.

The logic is correct but how many votes are you going to get with logic? Certainly not enough to win the presidency.

19 posted on 08/04/2012 3:42:25 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

So it’s better to have a country run by illogical liberalism? Just to WIN? What do you ‘win’ exactly? Can you call America “America” with the direction Obama is going OR all those constitutionally incorrect positions Romney has a record of legislating? Gun control, abortion for all/any reason, a homosexualized society, the Soviet healthcare and all the laws that intrude on your income and bank account-say nothing of your actual health?

What part of those things is the America you want? Because either way, ‘win’ or lose, that’s what you get. So you can cast your vote for what you believe in or help empower more of what you do not.

Should be a simple choice.

If people choose to elect the liberal, that is wholly their choice. But they better not bitch a single time when he goes full tilt Mass Governor on them. They will have thoroughly lost the right to complain and be taken seriously.


20 posted on 08/04/2012 3:53:13 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MacMattico

It’s good for you! I haven’t seen any Romney nor new 0bama stickers here.


21 posted on 08/04/2012 3:53:36 AM PDT by paudio (Two stubborn facts remain: (1) Romney is better than 0bama, and (2) Romney is the Republican Nominee)
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To: Kevmo
I’m ready for the flames.

No flames for a sad, sick, mittens hating crazy person, just prayers for your poor lost reason and thinking ability.

Why would we flame a demented, irrational, non-thinking person anymore than we would and autistic child, it's just not their fault.

Poor baby, no flames, just derision and pity.

22 posted on 08/04/2012 4:04:49 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
So you can cast your vote for what you believe in or help empower more of what you do not.

That was a good argument back during the primaries.

23 posted on 08/04/2012 4:18:17 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

And how is any different now? Did what you believe in change between now and then? Sounds like situational ethics. And to the best of my recollection, our team is greatly opposed to situational ethics.

People can come up with all the rationalizations they want. But voting for a liberal is still voting for a liberal. Conservatives can either vote for a person whose values and ideas they share, or not. If not, then what claim do they have on being conservative? Because voting for a liberal cannot in any way be defined as a conservative action.


24 posted on 08/04/2012 4:26:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
"I defy anyone to show me where any of the above is logically incorrect."

Your logic is incorrect because you blindly use the term "liberal" to describe someone who is right of center. If you objectively look at the actual platform, policies, history, and governance of Romney, you will find that he is on the right hand side of the distribution of all of the people in the US. He may not be far enough right to satisfy the Romney-Mormon haters here, but he is far from "liberal". It is your promiscuous use of the term "liberal" that defies logic.

25 posted on 08/04/2012 4:34:46 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Because back during the primaries casting a vote for what you believe in had a plausible chance of getting that person elected. Now it doesn’t.

Your point about situational ethics is so abstract that it’s totally unpersuasive. At this point we’re faced with a pretty simple choice. Reasonable people will go the William F. Buckly route and cast their vote for the most conservative candidate who has a chance of getting elected. That’s Mitt Romney.


26 posted on 08/04/2012 4:40:03 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Buckley


27 posted on 08/04/2012 4:42:07 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Norm Lenhart

——The first person to explain to me how it is that a conservative can vote for a liberal without abandoning what he believes in to do so will get me to vote for Romney.——

Your premise is faulty...Mittens isn’t a “ liberal” .... Granted he isn’t a Reagan conservative either....he was governor of one of the most liberal he’ll holes in the country....so one would expect him to govern left....

The more I watch and listen to Romney I more I like him... Which isn’t saying much since I pretty much did not like them at all....he was on the bottom of my list as the nominee

I utterly dispise McCain but managed to vote for the old goat. Because of
Palin....

Who Romney picks as VP will go a long way to making me more comfortable with him a a candidate

I ultimately will vote for Romney because my six grand children need to have a chance to grow in the america I grew up in....with Obama for four more years there is zero chance of that happening....with Romney at least they have a chance...

So I’m making a principle Decision for my namesake....


28 posted on 08/04/2012 5:00:44 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: MacMattico
Not me. I bought an Obama bumper sticker the other day.


29 posted on 08/04/2012 5:09:10 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Yardstick

I’d like to add to that:

Reasonable people will go the William F. Buckley route and cast their vote for the most conservative candidate who has a chance of getting elected and defeat Obama, who is the most anti-American radical to have such power in the history of this nation! With four more years of Obama, this nation’s national security will be SEVERELY crippled.


30 posted on 08/04/2012 5:09:20 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: Yardstick

——— Reasonable people will go the William F. Buckly route and cast their vote for the most conservative candidate who has a chance of getting elected. -———

I would amend your statement slightly......

” Rational people will go the William F. Buckly route and cast their vote for the most conservative candidate who has a chance of getting elected.”


31 posted on 08/04/2012 5:11:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Good for you MacMattico, for your Romney bumper sticker. Having lived in Michigan, California, and Washington,DC I have never ventured a presidential sticker on my car-I could be easily keyed or worse. We did have a Viet Nam vet sticker defaced and scratched through in downtown Asheville, NC. And I particularly love Asheville, NC.


32 posted on 08/04/2012 5:14:48 AM PDT by Cordio
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To: VeniVidiVici

:)


33 posted on 08/04/2012 5:16:00 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Kevmo
Maybe if you support a conservative

Like who? Who is that conservative candidate for president?

34 posted on 08/04/2012 5:16:00 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It’s called incrementalism.

The left has been moving the goal posts further and further away from what we might call constitutional conservatism (let’s leave labels aside).

If we keep swinging for the fences, we’re never going to win. Let’s hit some singles, play some smart & tough defense, build a good farm system.

But if we stand at the plate refusing to swing unless the pitch is right down the pike?


35 posted on 08/04/2012 5:21:47 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: MacMattico

I would rather have a banner, bumper sticker or a whole truck decal with Sarah Palin on it.


36 posted on 08/04/2012 5:32:55 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: P.O.E.
The left has been moving the goal posts further and further...

...But if we stand at the plate refusing to swing unless the pitch is right down the pike?

There are no pitches in football. And why anyone would hand the ball to "safety" mitt is beyond me. Not only does he hang around in his own endzone waiting to get tackled, but he would grab the ball from obama and run 90 yards the wrong way just to spite whatever Tea Party fans bought tickets to the game.

37 posted on 08/04/2012 5:48:45 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: MacMattico

Don’t fear the freaks, because intimidation is the only weapon they have in their arsenal. I put a yellow “Don’t Tread On Me” Tea Party bumper sticker on my car, and I wear it with pride. And since I’m black, the white liberals stare at me like I just stepped off a spaceship. I love it!


38 posted on 08/04/2012 5:48:45 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“Your logic is incorrect because you blindly use the term “liberal” to describe someone who is right of center.”

Are you REMOTELY serious? His record is to the left of Bill Clinton. On the big issues he’s high tax/mandate/pro homo/pro abortion and you seriously think he’s right of center?

That’s why having this debate with ABOers is so difficult. We are not speaking the same language. If you feel a man with his record is right of center, I don’t know what else to say.


39 posted on 08/04/2012 5:57:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Yardstick

Sorry but if you believe one thing yesterday and another today based on ‘the situation (in this case an arbitrary event), that’s situational ethics and completely relevant.
Conservative beliefs do not change because one person or another is nominated for president. They exist in places that HAVE no president or American system of government ruling them. So whether or not candidate X or W wins has no determinative value on anything.

You either believe something or you do not. And being gung ho conservative one day and voting lib the next over some outside influence/fear defines situational ethics.


40 posted on 08/04/2012 6:03:11 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Popman

“Your premise is faulty...Mittens isn’t a “ liberal”

As in my response to the other poster, if you truly believe that the record of Romney is not liberal, then there’s no way we can discuss this. His support for abortion/homosexuality/taxes and mandates define liberal. Most of the ABOers freely admit hes not only liberal but FLAMING liberal. He is on record touting positions to the left of Ted Kennedy. Now if that is not liberal, pray tell what is?


41 posted on 08/04/2012 6:08:34 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MacMattico

Check this out:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/08/03/why-i-will-place-a-romney-sticker-on-my-car


42 posted on 08/04/2012 6:11:27 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: Norm Lenhart
So whether or not candidate X or W wins has no determinative value on anything.

Sheer foolishness on its face.

Please tell me you're doing some kind of devil's advocate thing here.

43 posted on 08/04/2012 6:13:11 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Norm Lenhart
"His [Romney's] record is to the left of Bill Clinton."

Please give examples of this.

44 posted on 08/04/2012 6:16:13 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: MacMattico
I did it. I'm ready for the flames.

6 months ago, I might have.

Not now.

The 0bama regime must be disrupted. The only way to do that, short of impeachment (never happen) or assassination (which would just bring Biden to the fore and make 0bama a martyr) is to vote Romney. I plan on voting Romney to disrupt 0bama's plans.

45 posted on 08/04/2012 6:22:39 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Off the top of my head, Clinton Did not support gays openly support gays openly serving in the military and signed DADT. Romney is on record saying he has no intention to overturn Obama’s homosexualization of the armed forces. Clinton never pushed for homosexual marriage. Romney not only pushed for it, he legalized it.

There you go. Two shining examples among many.


46 posted on 08/04/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
"On the big issues he’s high tax/mandate/pro homo/pro abortion and you seriously think he’s right of center?"

Romney's Tax Position:
•Make permanent, across-the-board 20 percent cut in marginal rates
•Maintain current tax rates on interest, dividends, and capital gains
•Eliminate taxes for taxpayers with AGI below $200,000 on interest, dividends, and capital gains
•Eliminate the Death Tax
•Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)
•Cut the corporate rate to 25 percent
•Strengthen and make permanent the R&D tax credit

Romney's "mandate" position: Repeal Obamacare

Romney's "pro homo" position: he will not only appoint an Attorney General who will defend the Defense of Marriage Act – a bipartisan law passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton – but he will also champion a Federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

Romney's "pro abortion" position: Supports overturning Roe v. Wade, supports Hyde amendment to prohibit federal funding of abortions, supports appointing pro-life judges.

What is your basis for the statement you made?

47 posted on 08/04/2012 6:35:16 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Former president Bill Clinton told CBS News anchor Katie Couric that he regrets the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy

Politico 5/5/11 "In a statement released by the Human Rights Campaign on Thursday, Clinton said that the next step in the expansion of rights in the United States should be same-sex marriage in his adopted home state."

48 posted on 08/04/2012 6:39:25 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Sirius Lee
Here's proof

All kidding aside, my point is it's one thing to stand for principles, it's another to work towards them. There needs to be a specific plan to get where we want to be. Let's work to build congressional (state & fed) caucuses that can start the ball rolling.

Example: Pork

While it might be swell for candidate to proclaim they're not going to take any, but that just means more for others. Unless we can dismantle the structural problem of having others pay for our local "stuff", it's not going to change.

49 posted on 08/04/2012 6:40:04 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: norwaypinesavage

His actual documented record as a Governor, not pie in the sky campaign promises.


50 posted on 08/04/2012 6:40:48 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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