Skip to comments.Gay Rights
Posted on 08/04/2012 6:52:46 PM PDT by WriteOn
There is no gay birthright without a gay gene. The "born that way" argument lives and dies on a gay gene.
Show me the gene or shut up gays.
Couldn’t agree more. I’m sick and tired of “them” saying they were born that way. Could God make THAT many mistakes?
Suppose there is such a gene, and better, suppose that it can be detected prenatally. If a woman tests her fetus and finds it carries that gene, and she decides to abort it for that reason, could she be prohibited from doing so on the basis that doing so is discrimination based on sexual orientation? But then, wouldn’t such a prohibition interfere with her Right To Choose? I’m so confused.
If there is a gay gene, can we then say that they are mutants?
If they were to discover a gay gene next week would you then support gay marriage?
Wait a minute!!!
The brilliant genetic researcher, “Lady Gaga”, has said that homosexuals are born this way. That’s it, case closed, end of discussion!!!
If “Lady Gaga” has concluded that her homosexual fans are born that way, then we can’t discuss otherwise!!! (sarcasm)
I had one argue that men and women leave their families because they’ve been gay all their lives, they just were too ashamed to out themselves and covered it up by marriage and children
Which of course begs the question, how did they manage to stay married for years and have biological children in the first place?
And if it was genetic, then why do some have the occasional flings then back to hetero lifestyle? Or try it once and nope, not for them after all? Or they become heterosexual?
And don’t dare bring up HIV with them, they really have a cow then.
It’s settled science!
A congenital disorder may be the result of genetic abnormalities, a chromosomal abnormality, the intrauterine environment, morphogenesis errors, or infection. It need not be genetic for a person to be “born this way”. Also, being “born this way” (whether with sexual temptations toward homosexuality, pedophilia, adultery, or whatever, or other congenital tendencies) is not destiny. The whole point of God’s Word is to inspire us toward a higher calling than our animal nature. What would be the point of the Bible if it said “do whatever you want”? We would do that without any guidance from God. God has given us all strengths and weaknesses, temptations and the means to resist those desires - and guidance on how we can live our lives in the manner that is best for us. It’s our job to choose what we will do with those gifts.
What happens when the “gay gene” is used in prenatal testing? (Abortion)
I understand alcoholism/addiction might also have a genetic component.
If true, I still would not endorse alcoholism to those with the gene.
All of us, I suspect, carry a sex-drive genetic component. That does not excuse my going out on the town with anything or anyone that is willing.
Control is not not just wishful thinking. We do it every day.
It’s intriguing because this is the same community that says science settles everything. There is not one replicated scientific study on this question.
She also refers to them as her “little monsters” so at least she’s consistent.
Is there a broken bone gene?
Your argument is stupid. Find another one.
Rule #1 - Tab “A” always fits into Slot “B”.
Two Tabs by themselves, or two Slots by themselves, always result in a spilled pile of Corn Flakes on the floor. The “Five Second Rule” does not apply to Corn Flakes.
My objection is that “gay” marriage is a violation of
the first amendment. Traditional marriage being a
religious institution, government sponsorship of
a particular marriage that was not traditional constitutes
the institution of a religion which is not allowed
under the first amendment.
Am I wrong??
If you were to wake up one morning and find Hillary Clinton in bed with you, would you gnaw off your arm to escape from her?
I love rhetoricals!!!!!
If there ever was a gay gene it would have been eliminated by natural selection eons ago.
Ha...gay jeans! I get it. Plus, he throws like a girl.
What’s all this talk about a happy gene?
Ok, after remembering that “first pitch”, there obviously is a gay gene...lol.
All you have to know is that the Communists founded the gay movement , through Harry Hay, who actually studied Marx as a young boy and had sex with a sailor (learned) when he was a boy and he loved it. He was for NAMBLA and was always for pederasty which is normal in homosexual societies, because boys have to be perverted into the unnatural worldview to love it.
The Communist Friedan (Feminist movement) helped destroy the Natural Family and create identity groups to divide and conquer—give special rights to some to produce unjust Laws and destroy our legal system which is based on Natural Laws and Rights from God.
Special Rights for a sexual behavior is unconstitutional. There is no Right to Sodomize anyone and it should be illegal as it was when Law was Just. Just Law always promotes Justice—A Virtue—NEVER a Vice like sodomy or abortion.
We need to impeach judges who keep ignoring our Constitution and our Rule of Law and trying to replace Just Law with arbitrary laws-—it is sooooo unconstitutional. Repeat: Our Rights come from God in this country. What is so hard to understand about that??????? These stupid judges are Marxists who are always irrational and believe in Lies. We need to call them on it.
If they discovered a gay gene next week, I'd give homosexuals the same deference I would give any person with a serious birth defect.
Homosexual behavior is undeniably aberrant behavior. If it's genetically-induced, it may not be something they can control...but it remains aberrant behavior. And it doesn't entitle them to share the institution of marriage that society has rightly reserved for a man and a woman.
We're not discriminating against the Tourrette's Syndrome baby if they aren't selected for the championship debate team.
Not necessarily, because over time religions come and religions go; so you might be right with a distinct chance of being wrong.
Recomended reading: The Story of Civilization, Vol 1; by Will Durant.
If one wanted to study geography to understand the Earth, one wouldn’t first seek the insights of a person who thought the world really didn’t exist or if it did, it could only be flat.
Likewise, if one seeks to know God, why would they seek their veritable guidance from somebody who has never known Him, ignores all beliefs in favor of atheism or perhaps agnosticism, when it is simpler to simply trust God Himself provides a way to know Him directly?
We all have genetic predisposition to sin. That doesn’t excuse us from accountability for immorality.
Those who run to sin, refusing to surrender the temptation, but instead seek to only be identified with sin, are not justified as righteous, nor will they inherit the Kingdom of God.
I don't know what difference it would make. There is no paranoid schizophrenic gene nor an agoraphobia gene nor a bipolar gene, etc. Regardless, these are all mental disorders.
I understand Office Depot has funded the “Born that Way” Foundation to the tune of at least $1M to provide school supplies and psychotherapy services to children who are bullied because they were “born that way”. Like the Chick-a-Filet issue, Office Depot can support whomever they wish but I have cut up and sent my company credit card back to them with a letter saying we won’t be shopping there any more.
The Senate already rejected a bill passed by the House which would have outlawed so-called sex-selection abortions. Obama supported the rejection of this bill. So it’s now established that to the Democrat party it’s perfectly OK to abort simply because a child is female. With that established I don’t see how any Democrat could say a woman could not abort because she believed the child would be gay.
Actually, fwiw, I do think it is caused by genetics and therefore hereditary. However, I also think it’s on a spectrum — like autism, Asperger’s, etc. — and like Asperger’s, it is a detriment to the gene pool. I think societally it is a mistake to “celebrate” gayness. Would you celebrate autism? Or would you just try to find a way to live without it totally ruining your life? To encourage people to act on every “gay” thought they’ve ever had — is like encouraging people with Asperger’s to be as weird as possible, instead of giving them behavioral therapy, as they do now, trying to mainstream them into society.
So, yeah, I think it’s genetic, but yeah, like encouraging people with Asperger’s to be as odd as possible, or encouraging people with alcoholic tendencies to go out there and really live it up, I think it’s a mistake to “celebrate” gayness and expect everyone to think it’s great. ‘Cause it ain’t.
I believe that all souls were created at the same time and in order to be offered the opportunity to ‘see’ the kingdom of God, yet future, one must be born of woman and come through this flesh journey. I also believe that in the first rebellion the majority of souls in some way followed the first rebel. Thus that propensity for perversion is who that person really is and some more than others exhibit this in this flesh journey. Reason... it is Written ‘many are called but few are chosen’, requires some prior qualification.
Indeed, there is no materiality to gayness just as there is no materiality to “Being on welfare”. They are the inherent hate criminals.
Isn’t it ironic that in an era of praise of equality between men and women, transcending genetic inheritence, we revert to the racist materializing doctrines of communism and nazism under the cute excuse of gay and searches for gay genes?
It is selective.
When it is for political and infiltrative creepy purposes, gays seem to give themselves the right to transcend all material barriers, but when it is to benefit them, they cannot transcend, they are “born that way”.
It’s getting it both ways and cheating the system.
What started as a claim for a different porn style of sex or approach to fashion has become a gross fight and crushing of their fashion competition in heterosexuality, a food fight, along with a general attack on values of fairness and justice. As usual, the big losers in this are women and children who they have successfuly wooed with Barneys and crap, co-conspiring women into this nonsense temporarily.
Even if it was a gene, it would obviously have to be considered a defect, and as such, should be corrected.
Correct and in the words of Spock: “Highly illogical.”
I have stated this before on another thread: To believe that one was “born that way” then one would have to believe that one of their parents or grandparents had to have passed “the gay gene” along to them. If one of your parents or grandparents had “the gay gene” then why were they not “gay?” Are not gays “reproductively sterile” in a sense? The gay gene theory is a “Non Sequitur.”
“Non sequitur (Latin for “it does not follow”), in formal logic, is an argument in which its conclusion does not follow from its premises. In a non sequitur, the conclusion could be either true or false, but the argument is fallacious because there is a disconnection between the premise and the conclusion.”
To the Homo/Lesbo community: this is learned behavior; it’s selfishness and rebelliousness (”I’m going to do what I want! Wah!”) and in a Biblical sense, “shaking one’s fist at God.” If you wish to go down that path, feel free to do so but keep your disgusting, unhygenic and deviant behavior away from me, my kids and grandchildren.
To know, or not to know; that is the question.
To know is to understand, and wishful thinking - in its essence - is not to know.
Maybe there's a gene which makes people more likely to become murderers. If they found one, should we support/excuse murder?
Trust your gut.....and for normal people, the idea of two men messing with each other's anal area, or two women violating each other with plastic items makes the gut want to get rid of lunch.
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