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(Vanity) I am no longer Just a Conservative(Vanity)
haid ^ | Tuesday, July 10, 2012 | self

Posted on 08/07/2012 8:39:51 PM PDT by Tainan

For my entire life I have been a Republican and a Conservative.
Of late I have moved to the monicker of 'Conservative.'

Now, in the face of this upcoming election cycle I find myself moving to a new category.

Henceforth, I am a "Radical Conservative."


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Thats it. I'm sick and tired of the wishy-washy. Its time to fight like you want to win.
1 posted on 08/07/2012 8:39:55 PM PDT by Tainan
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To: Tainan

Welcome to our exclusive club devoted to saving our country.


2 posted on 08/07/2012 8:49:25 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: Tainan
Since I learned the true definition of the word radical in the 1960’s, I've always considered myself a radical. When I speak,I always introduce myself such. Being a radical is not a bad thing.
3 posted on 08/07/2012 8:49:25 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Tainan

Welcome Home.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 8:52:18 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Tainan

The repubs left us long ago- as long as the economy was growing, no one seemed to mind much. Life went on. Now that things are contracting the issue in my mind is do we fight to commandeer the lost GOP or go 3rd Party?

We are at multiple tipping points IMHO.


5 posted on 08/07/2012 8:52:18 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Tainan

I was a radical conservative before radical conservatives were cool....

Just say’n


6 posted on 08/07/2012 8:52:50 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: 103198

From the root. That is a good thing.

Radical Christian, Radical Conservative here.


7 posted on 08/07/2012 8:55:26 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

Yeah, third party...now that’s the ticket! Virgil Goode is a sure winner! /sarc


8 posted on 08/07/2012 8:56:58 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Tainan

RE: Henceforth, I am a “Radical Conservative.”

I know what you mean. I can identify with that, but as I’ve heard someone else say that the left has moved so far to the left, that they state their position as being “extreme center.”


9 posted on 08/07/2012 9:03:21 PM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: Artcore

It almost worked with Perot, if you were around then.

He flaked, or it could have happened.

The 3rd party in the US could be the Christian Patriots.

No sarcasm here...


10 posted on 08/07/2012 9:06:09 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Tainan

They way things seem to be going, the US Gov’t may give you a new title:

“Enemy.”


11 posted on 08/07/2012 9:07:24 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: One Name

Conservatism IS radical ==> I’m just a Radical now.


12 posted on 08/07/2012 9:09:01 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Tainan

Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
3 What profit hath a man of all his labor which he taketh under the sun?
4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full: unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
8 All things are full of labor; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after


13 posted on 08/07/2012 9:10:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: Tainan
I guess I fit the definition of Radical Conservative if that means not voting for Romney or any liberal under any circumstances.

If you are voting for Romney then you are timid Republican IMHO..

14 posted on 08/07/2012 9:13:53 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: dagogo redux

Clear thinking of free men set us on the path to greatness; obfuscation came with success and is about to choke us out.

Some remember, and press on.


15 posted on 08/07/2012 9:18:14 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

I agree - and radical constitutionalist.


16 posted on 08/07/2012 9:21:27 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Tainan
I have been called far right, a right wing nutcase, and other names, by people who claim to be conservative.

I don't refer to myself as any kind of conservative, I am a Constitutionalist.

17 posted on 08/07/2012 9:23:50 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Tainan

Yep-—all the greats were “radicals”—Jesus Christ, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, William Wilberforce, Copernicus, Socrates, Cicero, etc.

There has been a Godless paradigm shift in America —only because the Godless commies controlled the public school curricula since Dewey—and media was infiltrated and controlled since long before the great Senator Joseph McCarthy, another man of great courage and Truth. He took the Marxists head on-—and lost big time—because of their tight control over media and schools and PERCEPTIONS of the masses!!!!!!! EVeryone thought we had the “Truth” in our news, when it was all lies.

We thought just Germany had Goebbels-—we had the same fascist control of media here, but we were brainwashed into thinking our “press” was “free”-—

The Communists were thwarted by our system of government so it slowed them down-—Europe was toast.

They have control of MSM and the Schools. THAT has to end. Conservatives HAVE to understand how the schools and TV brainwashing DESTROY the LOGIC and Thinking of their children-—intentionally. It destroys morality and character and forces atheism.

Buckley, Jr. wrote about this in God and Man at Yale. He noticed the brainwashing in 1951 in the textbooks at elite colleges. (But no one listened and they marched through all the institutions and grabbed the reigns.)

All we have to do is not listen to Hollywood—turn off their trash-—and surround yourselves with the Classical Great Books, study philosophy of Cultural Marxists, esp-—they spell out their plan to destroy Western Civilization—through Sex Education in the schools-—

TAKE YOUR KIDS (THE FUTURE THINKERS) OUT OF THEIR indoctrination centers. Formative years are CRUCIAL!!!!

Know-—they destroy the language and all meaning-—like the word “family” which had specific meaning (so you can understand rational conversation) and now it means anything-—pro choice???? No one has the Right to Kill in this country-—that idea—makes no moral sense....Homosexual marriage-—you can not pair those words together and make any sense!!! It is a BF Skinner conditioning methodology to make children think marriage IS POSSIBLE with homosexual.

Wittgenstein!!! You guys-—they control the WORDS—THEy control the IMAGES your children sees OVER AND OVER and is embedded—THEY CONTROL your child’s REALITY-—what they think is GOOD and Evil.

And it is ALL NON-CHRISTIAN. Because the Cultural Marxists stated that the only way they could destroy America is to destroy Christianity. They kill God—or warp him—and then, we die as a nation—no unity—no standard. It is as easy as that. There is no Moral Absolutes-—Good and Bad become whatever the Power says it is ARBITRARY—Rule of Law CANNOT EXIST WITH ARBITRARY LAW (Cicero/Marshall)—since all Standards of Good and Evil (our basis of Jurisprudence) comes from the Christian Bible (Common Law, etc.)

Get the kids educated correctly (Classically with Christianity) and we have the future!!!! Knowledge is the Power.


18 posted on 08/07/2012 9:26:01 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Tainan
Conservative or Liberal

Take the test.

They called me a Hardcore Conservative @ 96%. and ocationally I think I peg the needle.

I said now, watch what you say, we'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal..... /Quarterflash.

19 posted on 08/07/2012 9:27:13 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Delta 21

...ooops...Supertramp !


20 posted on 08/07/2012 9:27:56 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: One Name

Pro Choice candidates can’t be conservatives. It’s an illogical stance besides being anti-Constitutional. That’s where he lost me..


21 posted on 08/07/2012 9:30:50 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: One Name

That would be the pro-abortion, anti-gun con man, Perot.


22 posted on 08/07/2012 9:39:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Mach9

If you’re talking Perot then yes I agree. The RNC option was GHWB, which put us in a tight spot not unlike the present.

I knew Clinton and Bush didn’t trip my trigger. Perot was a protest vote which had momentum. Got us 8 years of Clinton but the other 2 legs kept him from doing exceeding damage...


23 posted on 08/07/2012 9:41:21 PM PDT by One Name
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To: ansel12

Vis-a-Vis the one-world GHWB and the liberal draft-dodging Clinton.

Pick your poison.

John Anderson?

Tell me more about those days.


24 posted on 08/07/2012 9:46:57 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

The Perots are an award winning fundraising family for Planned Parenthood, and Ross wanted to go to door to take away guns.

If that is your idea of a hero to launch a third party, well good luck with that.


25 posted on 08/07/2012 9:57:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Tainan

What’s radical about most of our views? They’re far more in-keeping with the Jeffersonian liberalism that played a major role in the foundation of this country—the individual dignity and rights of the individual, a limited government and republic.

I don’t play that game. The left remains the fringe. America alone stands out as radical when compared to Europe, or this spirit that gave birth to America.


26 posted on 08/07/2012 10:01:39 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Delta 21
Good Quiz.
You scored 90% which means you are
 

a hardcore conservative. You believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals.

Conservative or Liberal
Take More Quizzes


27 posted on 08/07/2012 10:08:44 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Tainan
I'm sick and tired of the wishy-washy.

What's wrong with the wishy-washy all of a sudden!?


28 posted on 08/07/2012 10:12:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: ansel12

No dude. It was a protest 3rd party vote.

Which infidel did you vote for? And then, pray tell, why was that the One True Path?


29 posted on 08/07/2012 10:14:01 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

You voted pro-abortion and anti-gun, I merely wanted to let Perot supporters past and current in on some information that most of them were too ignorant to know.


30 posted on 08/07/2012 10:22:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Mach9
Pro Choice candidates can’t be conservatives. It’s an illogical stance besides being anti-Constitutional. That’s where he lost me..

Neither can Pro-Gay Agenda candidates. That's where Romney has lost me.
31 posted on 08/07/2012 10:45:22 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Tainan

You radical right-winger you.

/sarc


32 posted on 08/07/2012 11:02:28 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: SoConPubbie

Romney lost me on the abortion issue long before he lost me on the gay issue.


33 posted on 08/07/2012 11:05:06 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Tainan
I have been growing my hair and playing anti-establishment for over 15 years now. Since the left is the establishment it makes since to me.

This will give you a good idea on how I talk to socialists as being the establishment:
"Why does the establishment take from the poor and give to the rich?" such as Taxes (but I never use the word taxes that is a code word for conservatives. I explain the process not the term.)

34 posted on 08/07/2012 11:29:32 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: One Name

He flaked is putting it nicely. Then he picked Captain Crazy to be his VP.

Also the real reason Perot ran was to make sure Bush didn’t win, it was a personal thing with Perot.


35 posted on 08/08/2012 12:28:02 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Delta 21

90% hardcore conservative. Personally can’t see where I lost the 10%.


36 posted on 08/08/2012 12:32:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tainan

I think “conservative” is a weak moniker.
What are we conserving or trying to conserve?
I think of my self as a “so-called conservative” ...Core constitutionalist against Federal government intrusion.


37 posted on 08/08/2012 3:58:12 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux

...And since “gay marriage” is the subject of the week here, why is the Government so powerful that it can or should dictate who is married and who is not?


38 posted on 08/08/2012 3:59:45 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
...And since “gay marriage” is the subject of the week here, why is the Government so powerful that it can or should dictate who is married and who is not?

You will soon see the the concept of individual liberty has limits here.

39 posted on 08/08/2012 4:11:36 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: cerberus

As opposed to “limits” make that “exceptions”.


40 posted on 08/08/2012 4:21:53 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: Tainan

I like you better already


41 posted on 08/08/2012 4:24:53 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (government health officials seem to have the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.)
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To: golux
"why is the Government so powerful that it can or should dictate who is married and who is not?"

I think the argument is "what is marriage?" and we've had a pretty firm definition for the last 2 or 3 thousand years; so the current problem is the attempt to re-define clearly understood words to advance the gay agenda.

42 posted on 08/08/2012 4:28:16 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Delta 21
You scored 92% which means you are
 

a hardcore conservative. You believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals.

Conservative or Liberal
Take More Quizzes


43 posted on 08/08/2012 6:08:57 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Kevmo

>>Good Quiz.<<

It is weighted in many ways (I suspect we all “lost” 10% for saying no to the Patriot Act).

The Conservative answers are generally first.

The Conservative answers are generally longer and include rationale.

The Conservative answers basically say “PICK ME.”


44 posted on 08/08/2012 6:14:11 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: Shimmer1
Thanks.
I bathe regularly and am pretty much house-broke now.

(wife still thinks I am crazy - I tell her that her belly-button is really a USB plug for her to receive messages every month from her alien overlords)
45 posted on 08/08/2012 7:23:17 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

I have always been and will never change, a Christian Conservative. I have never been a Republican.


46 posted on 08/08/2012 7:25:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: savagesusie
Intense post - Heavy crowd.

I think they would make me eat at the 'small table.'
But, for the most part, a good group to be identified with.
47 posted on 08/08/2012 7:26:48 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
Completely agree Casper.
And I m done with playing nice-guy.
(not that I ever did that much of it)
48 posted on 08/08/2012 7:28:53 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: golux; Kevmo
I think “conservative” is a weak moniker.

Well, I'm going to dis-agree with you about this. From my perspective the term 'Conservative' fits well with my political positions.
As mentioned by 'KevMo' above, "I believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals."

I also believe that the Constitution is a powerful document that clearly defines what the foundational beliefs of the U.S.A. are and that it is our sacred duty to preserve and protect these ideals.
As for the "conserve or conservation" part, well, I look at it as conserving a natural habitat, or environment that we live in. Like a 'Political Nature Conservancy' thing. We must keep and protect that which we have been given.
We, the citizenry, have been entrusted with a beautiful thing with this country. I've lived in many different parts of the world and have been outside looking-in a great deal. The U.S.A. is the best. It damn sure has its faults - but overall, its the best thing going.

Thats my idea and definition of "Conservative"...conserving what we have been entrusted with.

And it looks like its almost time to 'fish or cut bait'...if you get my drift.

Thats how I see things from over here on the outside...looking in.

49 posted on 08/08/2012 7:44:46 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Throw water balloons into their midst and monkey wrenches into the cogs of their machines.
Swim in their pools and make their water turn yellow.
Look them straight in the eye and say..."You're lying."
Don't just ruffle their feather - Jerk them out and throw them on the ground.
50 posted on 08/08/2012 7:51:45 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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