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There were TWO UFO crashes at Roswell, claims former Air Force official who says he was there
DailyMailOnline UK ^ | 6 August 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 08/07/2012 9:25:37 PM PDT by LucyT

Sixty-five years after a UFO allegedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, a retired Air Force official has spoken out to say that not only did the shocking incident really happen – but it happened twice. an unusual object fell from the sky and crashed to the ground in Roswell.

Military authorities issued a press release after the shocking incident, saying: ‘The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc.’

But, just 24 hours later, the military retracted their earlier statement and claimed the object they had first thought was a 'flying disc' was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.

The media and the public accepted the explanation without question. Since then, conspiracy theorists and officials such as French have called into question the military's line on the incident.

‘There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know,’..."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society; UFO's
KEYWORDS: 509thbombgroup; aatip; chasebrandon; debunker; eighthairforce; fringe; johnalexander; military; mystery; newmexico; ohsomysteriouso; quix; richardfrench; roswell; roswellarmyairfield; uap; ufo; ufos
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Roswell, New Mexico sprang to international fame on July 8, 1947, when the local newspaper reported the capture of a 'flying saucer' by government officials in the town.

Over the decades since the discovery, conspiracy theorists have insisted that the debris came from an alien spacecraft, and that the fact was covered up by the military.

1 posted on 08/07/2012 9:25:59 PM PDT by LucyT
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2 posted on 08/07/2012 9:28:55 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT
Having lived in that area... I'm thinking certain aromatic herbs, cactii, or fungal species may have an effect on reports out of the area.

/johnny

3 posted on 08/07/2012 9:30:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: LucyT

It’s too bad the second crash was right on top of the first crashed vehicle, destroying all the evidence of both.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 9:32:03 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: LucyT

"....and I'll use it"

5 posted on 08/07/2012 9:32:19 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: LucyT

Electronic pulse-type weapon? Why was there never any information on this aircraft with the pulse weapon?


6 posted on 08/07/2012 9:38:22 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: LucyT
From November 17, 1947 to December 23, 1947, John Bardeen and Walter Brattain at AT&T's Bell Labs in the United States, performed experiments and observed that when two gold point contacts were applied to a crystal of germanium, a signal was produced with the output power greater than the input. Solid State Physics Group leader William Shockley saw the potential in this, and over the next few months worked to greatly expand the knowledge of semiconductors. Wikipedia®

Of course real silicon transistors and integrated circuits soon followed.

Coinkydink or reverse engineering? /tinfoil

7 posted on 08/07/2012 9:43:36 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: LucyT

I have been to both crash sites, there is a visible long scar on the ground at one.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 9:48:21 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: this_ol_patriot; LucyT

The Majestic 12?


9 posted on 08/07/2012 9:50:22 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping, Lucy. I think it’s interesting that the Mars Rover vehicle still looks so much like the 1972 Viking space probe pictured at the Daily Mail with the article. In turn they both look a great deal like the “classic” UFO disc-shaped craft that purportedly crashed in Roswell. Just something to think about...

There has always been talk of reverse engineering in regards to the craft recovered at Roswell, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the result is exactly what we saw landing on Mars...


10 posted on 08/07/2012 9:52:41 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LucyT

This idiot is delusional. Whatever else may be true there were NO particle beam or directed energy weapons in 1947.


11 posted on 08/07/2012 9:55:14 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: LucyT

Interesting.


12 posted on 08/07/2012 10:02:23 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: LucyT

13 posted on 08/07/2012 10:02:45 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: LucyT
Roswell, New Mexico sprang to international fame on July 8, 1947...

And by the end of 1947 Bell Labs had successfully developed the groundwork for the key active component in practically all modern electronics: the transistor. The rest, of course, is history. That was some quick reverse engineering right there!

14 posted on 08/07/2012 10:05:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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15 posted on 08/07/2012 10:08:37 PM PDT by azishot
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To: Nifster

I am not confirming or denying the guy’s claims, but I can say this for sure:

If you can build a magnetron, you can build a directed energy weapon, and we were building them at that time.

It doesn’t even take anything as advanced as a klystron or magnetron to generate an EMP pulse, nor a nuclear reaction. A spark gap with a hefty capacitor bank, focused using a waveguide, and you have yourself a very simple directed energy weapon capable of disrupting modern unshielded microelectronics.

To deny that fact would be to discount the work of many great WW2 era scientists and engineers, not to mention just totally disregard most practical applications of high powered RF fields.

I am a middle aged engineer in the semiconductor industry, and I can guarantee you that the technology existed at the time to be able to disrupt what we consider contemporary microelectronics.

I would lean on the side of this not happening the way the guy said though, based on the fact that any sufficiently advanced alien technology base would have proper shielding in place to protect against such directed energy (and I don’t mean star trek/wars shields here, just faraday cages, and lead or foil shielding from cosmic ray particles). You couldn’t fly through space without it.


16 posted on 08/07/2012 10:10:15 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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His claim was that the UFO was fired upon by a beam weapon from a plane....moreover there were no beam weapons at that time. Just because one has components does not a weapon make. I am older than you by twenty years (if you are middle aged). The things I have worked on (and continue to work on) have all been of the SDI variety. Klystrons do not a laser make. Magnetrons do not a directed energy weapon make. It is nice that you do semiconductors...all that equipment that you use to produce the devices is years in the making. The truth is knowing the fundamentals is NOT the same as producing a weapon.


17 posted on 08/07/2012 10:15:14 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: LucyT

I will believe in ET when he lands in public view and makes contact with humans.
So far, EVERY report of ET has been anecdotal, with zero proof.
Despite all the garbage reported on Kook to Kook, it is hard to believe that any ET life has been here from other star systems that are many light years away.
Just my opinion, and no offense to FReeper ET fans.


18 posted on 08/07/2012 10:17:02 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: LucyT

Joseph P. Farrell is of the opinion that the Roswell Crash in 1947 was a downed Nazi anti-gravity aircraft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLOiyGoQtUA


19 posted on 08/07/2012 10:19:17 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: LucyT

So French, who was no where near Roswell in ‘47, ‘knows’ that there were, not just one, but two crashes near Roswell. And how does he know this? Because some unnamed friend told him that he shot one of them down with a directed energy weapom mounted in an experimental aircraft.

Well no wonder the USAF never took the UFO’s seriously as a threat! Clearly we didn’t need to reverse engineer any tech from them; ours was already superior! /s


20 posted on 08/07/2012 10:21:55 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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