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More Kids Taking Antipsychotics For ADHD: Study
US NEWS HEALTH ^ | August 7, 2012 | Steven Reinberg

Posted on 08/09/2012 2:14:13 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit?

TUESDAY, Aug. 7 (HealthDay News) -- Use of powerful antipsychotic medications such as Abilify and Risperdal to control youngsters with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and other behavior problems has skyrocketed in recent years, a new study finds.

Antipsychotics are approved to treat bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, other serious mental problems and irritability related to autism. But they don't have U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval for ADHD or other childhood behavior problems, and their use for this purpose is considered "off label."

"Only a small proportion of antipsychotic treatment of children (6 percent) and adolescents (13 percent) is for FDA-approved clinical indications," said lead researcher Dr. Mark Olfson, a professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center in New York City.

"These national trends focus attention on the substantial and growing extent to which children diagnosed with ADHD and other disruptive behavioral disorders are being treated with antipsychotic medications," said Olfson.

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KEYWORDS: adhd; behavior; childhood; health; psychiatry; psychphrmafraud
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To: ConradofMontferrat


Criminal charges need to start flowing for these quacks.”

Joe Biederman & 2 more kiddie shrinks at Harvard got over $4 Million to split 3 ways from the makers of Risperdal. In return, they discovered a 4,016% Increase in early childhood Bipolar, which could be treated with Risperdal.

Read all about it.

You Damn well better believe criminal charges need to start flowing for these quacks!

21 posted on 08/09/2012 3:26:00 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Third Person

Brave New World——we are here-—actually have parents/parent allowing the destruction of the minds of their own children. After normalizing abortion-—preschool (strangers shaping children’s worldview)-—the slippery slope to killing the brain of their own children is next.

Conditioning, desensitizing and normalization -—it is what the schools do and media is designed to do.

All public schools should be obliterated. They are intentionally designed for “group think”—mass brainwashing and to create a USSA.

Cultural Marxists designed it with the help of the Fabian Socialists. It is pure evil—not only an unnatural way to learn-—it destroys interest in knowledge-—bores children who are brilliant-—(intentionally for radical egalitarianism) and destroys the culture-—they learn Marxist “collective” culture-—instead of learning the Values and Morality of their Christian parents—individuality and responsibility and Charity.

22 posted on 08/09/2012 3:28:00 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

My thoughts exactly... scary times.

23 posted on 08/09/2012 3:52:07 PM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
I have taught at Suburban, Rural and Urban schools. One of them was an alternative school.

I can't tell you the number of parents that came in asking for a recommendation from me to have their (usually) son examined by a Doctor to be put on meds.

I agreed exactly one time.

I am not saying that the drugs are worthless. not at all. Sometimes the kids need them desperately, but rarely.

24 posted on 08/09/2012 3:52:25 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: savagesusie
Brave New World——we are here-—actually have parents/parent allowing the destruction of the minds of their own children.

Usually I saw the opposite, it was the parents coming in asking about getting the kids medicated.

25 posted on 08/09/2012 3:55:40 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: verga

Whether they are active or passive-—they are still allowing their own biological offspring to be destroyed.

The normal Nature of Man and animals is to kill anyone who tries to harm their offspring.

We have FLIPPED Natural Law on its head through conditioning and desensitization and normalization of evil—no Virtue.

It is why homosexuality is being pushed so hard-—when you destroy the Laws of Nature-—pervert it to such a degree-—there is no Right and Wrong. No possibility in being Rational or normal. AND ALL THE KIDS will be damaged—so they can be controlled for life——for the One World Government-—Slaves—Drones.

26 posted on 08/09/2012 4:06:33 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

ah, Breggin’s comments are hyperbole and baloney

risperdal in combo with ADHD meds have made it possible for my ASD son to have a normal education experience for the past 7 years

27 posted on 08/09/2012 4:11:24 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: TSgt

Sarge, you are such a fricking genius

You just discovered the cure for autism spectrum disorders and how to get an autistic hyper kid to sit still long enough to get an education


I salute you

28 posted on 08/09/2012 4:17:54 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Powerful drugs in growing bodies... An Epi - genetic nightmare. Medicate them into submission.

29 posted on 08/09/2012 4:39:37 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today! Walker, Issa, Rubio,)
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To: RoseofTexas

“you’re a saint.”

I second that!!! Parents MUST take charge. My kids never had a chance to “get diagnosed” with anything, but I understand that most parents just want to know “what’s wrong”. With my kids, they felt it when they sat down...and all was well. To this day, they’ve never come close to having one of those drugs, and at this point, I couldn’t force anything.

30 posted on 08/09/2012 5:15:42 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

“anatomy of an epidemic”
best book i have read in quite awhile.
Just shocking what those psychotropic drugs do to people.
Running around the block a couple of times is about 1000 times better for everyone.

31 posted on 08/09/2012 6:48:08 PM PDT by genghis
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To: the invisib1e hand

When my son was 4, he was “diagnosed” with ADHD and the Quack wanted to put him on Zoloft. This caused some friction within the family. The outlaws were all for it :) I was against drugs and wanted to take a more holistic approach first. We began to watch his diet and started him on “fish oil” DHA and a herbal supplement for children with ADHD. He is now 8 and has improved tremendously over the last 4 years (not my opinion, the schools). He is not perfect and still has moments. But these moments do not justify putting him on an anti-psychotic medication. The one incident that will always stick out in my mind is the time that my ex-wife gave my son at a deck of presidential cards ( he was about 5). Two days later, he had memorized every president. You could ask him, who was the 15th president, and he would immediately answer. he could name the presidents in order forwards backwards and alphabetically..

32 posted on 08/09/2012 7:51:43 PM PDT by hippyhater
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
There is a link that has been found {not by mental health experts} linking both childhood and adult Vestibular Disorders meaning Inner Ear and sensory processing disorders to ADD ADHD type symptoms and Anxiety Disorders.

The important part is you can not treat this with ADD ADHD or even antidepressant medications. Parents I say this as an adult now in my mid 50's who was diagnosed with ADD ADHD as a kid in the 1960's. Have your suspect of ADD ADHD children checked by an Audiologist trained to test for and diagnose Central Auditory Processing Disorders.

I'm going to give you some symptoms of it. You say Billy feed the dog and take off the trash. Billy either doesn't respond or says huh. You repeat it. Billy again either says huh or goes and takes out the trash or feeds the dog but not both. Or the third time it is as if a switch was thrown Billy gets it in the middle of your third time telling him. Billy doesn't have ADD ADHD. Billy doesn't need a spanking. Billy likely is not playing games. Rather the third time Billys brain processed the entire message. There is no medication for this.

You have to adapt to Billy's problem and work around it. When giving instructions do it face to face. Billy may be reading your lips and processing faster than the auditory can process.

Other possible things pointing to this is childhood history of chronic ear infections or sinus allergies. Poor eye and muscle coordination and even shoes breaking over the side is yet another due too the labyrinth {balance} being out of kilter and the feet and legs compensate for it making them break over.

There can also be hyperactive type symptoms. This can be sensory triggered. What was the child doing right before. A lack of concentration is also common to this. Concentration for some Vestibular patients can be 15 minutes productive book time a day. Concentration is much more difficult and can be physically exhausting. All of this also can apply to some forms of adult Anxiety Disorders. It can happen at any point in your life. In very extreme cases it can be disabling. Before taking an antidepressant if diagnosed with possible Panic Attacks or Anxiety have your doctor do a Vestibular work up. The medication used to treat it is Valium or Xanax.

Been There, Done That, and have over 18 years accumulated knowledge and experience as a patient of the beast.

33 posted on 08/09/2012 8:09:05 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: CodeToad
parents are under pressure to have "normal" kids....

despite everything we wish for our etc....the NUMERO UNO thing we really deep down want is for our kids to be average....average to fit in with everyone else and not to be an outsider in any way...

so parents try to medicate their kids to do that...

I have a probable hyperactive grandchild....I hope to God they don't put him on meds....

when I was young, there were plenty of "odd" kids in one got medicated and no one was cast off into side classes...we learned together...

34 posted on 08/09/2012 8:14:48 PM PDT by cherry (/)
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To: cherry

“I have a probable hyperactive grandchild”

Children are supposed to be ‘hyperactive”. They’re not adults willing to sit around at dinner parties and discuss adult topics in a manner befitting adults. They run around, scream, play, and burn energy like a squirrel on coffee. For that, adults want to drug them. I truly feel sorry for children today: No playgrounds to burn that energy and play, yet, we stuff them full of caffeine via sodas and tell them they had better sit perfectly still of be drugged. Oh, then when they gain weight from all that sugar and no play we tell them they’re fat and it’s all their fault.

35 posted on 08/09/2012 8:20:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: cva66snipe

“I’m going to give you some symptoms of it. You say Billy feed the dog and take off the trash. Billy either doesn’t respond or says huh. You repeat it. Billy again either says huh or goes and takes out the trash or feeds the dog but not both. Or the third time it is as if a switch was thrown Billy gets it in the middle of your third time telling him. Billy doesn’t have ADD ADHD. Billy doesn’t need a spanking. Billy likely is not playing games. Rather the third time Billys brain processed the entire message. There is no medication for this.”

That’s called being a kid. Parents rarely teach their children how to pay attention but then demands a medical problem if the child doesn’t pay attention. That’s being lazy and a total copout. Kids take time and effort. Kids rarely receive any effort to discipline them from day one to learn to behave and when the kid is several years old the parents want to find any other excuse except themselves to blame.

I had a sister with an “ADHD” child on Ritalin. Yep, typical kid. I gave that kid a week of personal and direct attention necessary for him to understand his responsibilities and that child became well-mannered and disciplined. He did what he needed to every time; put away his toys, brushed his teeth, and went to bed dead on time. He also knew that for his good behavior he got to spend time with me, watch a little TV, we played outside, and he generally enjoyed himself. My sister hates me to this day for that because I took away her excuse for being lazy and not taking the time to teach her own child. He is 25 now and in the Air Force and doing well. He remembers that week as the week he felt someone actually took time for him. He said for once he knew what was really expected of him and he knew the consequences, both good and bad, for his behavior: “Things weren’t just random and a bunch of screaming and yelling all the time”.

I believe some kids have medical problems, from real mental disorders to true hearing problems, but I refuse to believe every kid that acts like a kid has a problem.

36 posted on 08/09/2012 8:34:39 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad
Sorry about the length of this. It is a bunch of things you need to put together to determine what I am saying. Look a child with certain medical history seems to be prone to what I am saying. A research Neurologist/Pyschtraist made the link by accident. He started seeing that many of his ADD ADHD as well as Anxiety patients shared some common medical histories. The histories were related specifically to Vestibular Damage.

What has triggered it as an epidemic? Look at technology. Kids today are sensory bombarded with sounds, flashes, special effect TV that we as kids did not have. These events in a damaged processing system can trigger some very overwhelming self preservation signals within the brain. The kid can be playing say a video game having fun but when he's through he may be wound tight OR he may be very agiated tossing down the controller and walks away.

Take the same kid to the ball field and pitch a few balls to him to swing at. You say kep your eye on the ball and swing. The kid consistently swings early, late, or ducks aay. They can not control that it is the brain correcting what it sees as danger. The kid lacks the coordination ability to hit the ball consistently.

Next is reading. Have the kid read a couple of pages. Listen closely for skipped words and even a sentence. Have them try and copy something from a book or blackboard and see the difficulty they have. Look at what they wrote and tell them to correct errors. Don't be surprised if they make the same mistake several times. It's difficult. But once they do get something in their head into permenant memory they know it. There is an issue at the point of hearing or seeing and getting it into the portion of the brain that is permenant storing.

Tell a kid three words for example an apple, a dog, and a pencil. Give them a task to do and say now remeber those words. Don't be surprised if the task becomes difficult and done wrong or the words forgotten. It hits multi-tasking hard and as a result that is where the behavioral or Cognitive issues occur.

I'm 55 now. At age 12 upon recommendation of several professionals such as an eye doctor and occupational therapist I was placed for two years in a special education school. Not class but school that was set up to treat all aspects of childhood issues from Polio to blindness. Without that help I would not have pased my Navy or my Army NG physicals later on. I am also one eye functional another issue that kept me in hot water. Teachers said I was looking off not paying attention. Truth is only one eye at a time functions. Given a standard eye chart test I can pass easilly. Test for both eyes such as depth perception? Nope.

Watch for inappropiate responses to noises and visual events. A child for example who see's a snake and stops up his ears is not being cute and it's not a tanturm. It is the brain translating the danger incorrectly. How do I know? I would do it. By the way most of it doesn't stop in childhood.

i had severe sinus allergies as a very young kid. Serious enough to require shots. That will damage the Inner ear. Some as well I was born with. What youand others are missing is that much of these things were not with us in previous generations. The technology of today for some is triggering ADD ADHD type symptoms but this is not ADD nor ADHD is what I'm saying. It's not junk science and has little pharmacutical influence because to treat it usually requires learning enviroment modificaions and understanding the kids limitations and productive window related to books then utikllizing it. Use the other time for hands on learning.

Now reason this out a litle if a child has damaged sensory processing system what are drugs like Ritalin, Zoloft etc going to do? I know what they do adults with this. It is so serious that it can be as bad as LSD especially antidepressants. Again I have seen it.

Up till the time I was about in my early 30's I functioed OK in my work. Actually I was a darn good electrical trouble shooter as long as absolutely nothing distracted me like a pager etc. Then it hit.

Suddenly unexplainable things started happening to me. I'd start up stairs and be very weak after the third step or so. I would have to say to myself CLIMB and wait a couple of seconds and I had energy. I began having trouble doing simple task at one point I could not sign my name. Other things were I was not remembering task I had done or worse did not do. I was also a boiler operator and this was in a very large nursing home.

I tried to cover my tracks and just thought it was stress as I had been putting in some long hours. I took a weekend trip to Gatlinburg then to a place near Chatanooga with my wife. Coming home on the interstate I lost complete awareness of whee i was at, where I was going, why, how long etc and I was in a location I normally knew. This lasted 30 minutes or so. By the next night I was weak and that turned into a month off undergoing testing including brainwave and MRI all were negative. But I was doing something I had not done before. Cartain sounds would make me shudder violently in the shoulder bladesas would certain visual events. No real rhyme or reason at first. I went back to work and had a promtion coming.

One evening I recieved a trouble call in the retirement center anotherbuilding away about a loud machine noise. I went to the apartment and heard nothing unusual. I saw the woman who lived in it and she was distraught almost in tears and she normally was happy go lucky. I asked he what was wrong? She said that noise make it stop I can't handle it no more. I said OK take me to it. It was her A/C unit. I turned it off and she was happy. I told the nurse and she said it's odd she came back from the hospital like that earlier in the day.

I went down to my shop to kick back and eat my supper. I was leaned back in a chair agaisnt a dould door and someone behind the door yelled. i about went through the ceiling. Then it hit again the where was I, what was I doing. I could barely talk. I called my wife and said it hit me again. She said OK hang on I'm calling your dad to come to get you don't you drive. My wife is confined to a wheelchair. I told the switchboard operator who was my dispatcher to hold the tickets I had to leave as soon as my relief got there and I had called him in. For two days I stayed like that.

Doctors had no answer and said see a shrink. The shrink said Atypical Anxiety Disorder. I resigned my job as it was the right thing to do. I filed for disability and the examiner said he'd seen it but it had no name and I could not work again. The shrinks started me on antidepressants and they made the spasms worse and me agiated. The only medication that would help was Xanax but not all the time. I was also diagnosed as PTSD which for some life events I have gone through one would expect. but they could not pin this down especially the reaction to noises and visual effects.

After a couple of years I found a book at a second hand store called Phobia Free. When it comes to those type of books I am super skeptic. Many are written by well meaning persons but resolve nothing. This book though went into case histories and most sounded like mine including my childhood allergies. The problem is not chemical it is neurological damage in the Inner Ear and Cerebellar portion of thwe brain controlling sensory processing. Myshuddering or spasms are violent and last less than 5 seconds each time. I now know what they are. They are sensory induced Myoclonic Seizures. My Atypical General Anxiety Disorder is not that at all. It is a secondary condition of a primary condition caused my my semsory processing system being damaged.

Within a couple more years I developed Meniers Disease. I'm also now over 50% hearing loss in both ears. The antidepressants? LOL I finally after about the 5th one said you aren't giving those to me I won't take them I want Xanax. The doctor said no I said your fired and found another.

New doctor tlked to me and he said yea I've seen it and here is what helps. Where before I took 2MG of Xanax tice a day he said try .5 or a half MG four times a day. It helped but 18 years later I still have seizures sometimes usually a few times a day.

Now remeber the woman in the apartment with the loud noise in her room? If I were a betting man I would placed a weeks wages on either an Inner Ear infection or Inner Ear Disorder.

Not everyone get this bad. But I was born in 1957 and even in my childhood the sensory triggers we have today most weren't there but even the ones that were looking back were triggering me.

I can spot adults who have milder forms of this in Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes etc when the P.A. or an alarm goes off or if it's crowded. They wantthe hell out of there yesterday LOL.

Here is a pretty unbaised buy educational read that explains more COGNITIVE ASPECTS OF VESTIBULAR DISORDERS

I don't discount the fact some kids just lack discipline. Lord knows I had my share LOL. But an real issue in kids that carries on into adulthood is not being mentioned but ADD ADHD is. Again C.A.P.D. generally requires no medication except treating the allergy etc doing the damage to start with..

I did not spell check but did proof read my post. How many errors do you see? A child with this will have problems correcting or for that matter spotting mistakes to start with.

37 posted on 08/09/2012 10:42:57 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

I may get flamed for this, but I don’t give a frak...

ADHD is a sequencing disorder. The issue is a lack of the ability to distinguish levels of input, and then to properly process them in the appropriate order. The only REAL answer is training the child how to “pay attention” in the sequence expected by society.

Drugs, in a true therapeutic setting, are a tool to help the child focus. By rigorous training (guided by computer software designed to help reward correct stimulus response) the child can learn to overcome the lack of a filter.

But drugs, as an antidote, are crap. They do not solve the problem. They simply mask the symptoms.

38 posted on 08/09/2012 10:44:30 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: silverleaf

The article is specifically referring to ADHD, not autism, and that was the context of my post and accompanying graphic.

Many ADHD types just need a good old fashioned spanking.

Autism is a legitimate and horrible disorder not cured by spanking.

Grow up...


39 posted on 08/10/2012 4:05:48 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: hippyhater
Sometimes just TLC can go a long way to solving problems.

The outlaws were vehemently opposed to my decision to homeschool. They were wrong, naturally.

They're your children after all.

40 posted on 08/10/2012 5:11:41 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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