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More Kids Taking Antipsychotics For ADHD: Study
US NEWS HEALTH ^ | August 7, 2012 | Steven Reinberg

Posted on 08/09/2012 2:14:13 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit?

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"We have a national catastrophe," said Breggin. "This is a situation where we have ruined the brains of millions of children."

In controlling behavior, antipsychotics act on the frontal lobes of the brain -- the same area of the brain targeted by a lobotomy, Breggin said.

"These are lobotomizing drugs," he added. "Of course, they will reduce all behavior, including irritability," he said."

1 posted on 08/09/2012 2:14:26 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit?
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

the next generation of James Holmeses.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 2:15:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: the invisib1e hand

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-10/j-j-s-risperdal-marketing-violated-law-arkansas-jury-rules-1-.html

The Jury said Guilty. The Judge said Pay.

J&J is appealing.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-20/j-j-files-appeal-of-1-2-billion-arkansas-risperdal-ruling.html


3 posted on 08/09/2012 2:21:58 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

From Al Jazeera:
Mass psychosis in the US
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2747952/posts

Here’s what I posted on that thread:

I saw this whole Frontline a few years ago. Here’s a small portion of it on YouTube. It was a scary episode.

One poor kid had been on multiple drugs since he was four because he was hyper. As a teen he developed a permanent, uncontrollable head roll, but his family still had him on multiple meds.

The Wholesale Drugging of Children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSkwp-tDCWg

Here is the first video of the complete episode—it shows the boy with the headroll. The parents act like they are victims, and maybe they are, but they could have told the teachers early on to go pound sand. I know it’s hard when the system is working on you each day, but if the kids don’t have their parents, the system will gladly step in. For this boy it had life altering consequences.

Frontline -The Medicated Child 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48KnwKGV0Pw


4 posted on 08/09/2012 2:22:59 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Schools are contrary to natural growth and learning. Disruptive behavior is only natural, so drug ‘em!

Public school system children should be medicated to the max so the pedagogues will have an easier time “educating” them.

Maybe Obamacare will take care of that.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 2:25:51 PM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

6 posted on 08/09/2012 2:27:37 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

It was easy to predict that once parents stopped parenting due to laziness and ignorance that those parents would find an excuse for their out of control kids. Here it is: “My kid is defective, not MY parenting!” This was coming down quickly by 1986 and is now in full force. Schools get more moeny for every child they can get on drugs so they make every excuse to do it.

Some parents have REAL out of contrl kids, such as with Aspergers. The vast majority of parents putting their kids on drugs is about their laziness and unwillingness to parent.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 2:31:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad

Parents? Parents? What’s this talk about parents? What do they have to do with children? /s


8 posted on 08/09/2012 2:34:48 PM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Another related from 2010:
Bipolar diagnosis jumps in young children: study
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2429077/posts


9 posted on 08/09/2012 2:38:18 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Unfortunately, the Super State has made Saying No to it almost impossible.

http://voiceofdetroit.net/2011/08/08/tangled-web-in-godboldo-case-drug-cos-private-and-public-agencies-judge-dhs-all-benefit-from-child-abduction/

Mom Godboldo took her 13 year old off of Risperdal because the child was reacting badly to it. What she got in return was a SWAT TEAM to save her daughter from medical neglect.

The girl has a prosthetic leg, and the authorities said they were afraid she was going to run away.

This November is make or break. We MUST take our country back.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 2:42:31 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Thank You JESUS...thank you, thank you, a million times THANK YOU LORD! My son was diagnosed with ADHD in elementary and we were devastated. We knew right away how difficult and rough it was going to get. BUT, when the teachers and Dr told us to put him on the drug Ritalin I refused, instead I took to my knees very day and kept in close contact with the teachers. I was always available to his teachers in anything they need that would help my son. This was 28 years ago and now....THANK YOU JESUS..he just got his Physician’s assistant degree, after getting his bachelors in Biology...again, I can’t tell you how important it is to seek God first and keep the line of communication with the child’s teacher. It was a LOOOOOONNGG road of many, many shed tears and hard work, but he DID IT...HE DID IT...I’m so proud of him I can’t even beginning to tell you. I praise God cause he made a way for my child and us. To God be the Glory!!!


11 posted on 08/09/2012 2:43:22 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

These “doctors” should be criminally charged, lose their licenses and go to jail.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 2:43:56 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

ADHD = Little Boys Disease


13 posted on 08/09/2012 2:45:29 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: RoseofTexas

you’re a saint.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 2:47:59 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
Use of powerful antipsychotic medications such as Abilify and Risperdal to control youngsters with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and other behavior problems has skyrocketed in recent years, a new study finds.

Soon to be a medical reason for lawfully preventing the ownership of firearms.

15 posted on 08/09/2012 2:50:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RoseofTexas

Awesome!


16 posted on 08/09/2012 2:57:11 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: EGPWS

Abilify and Risperdal are so damaging that FDA’s Medwatch has them down for causing homicides.

Put them both in the search box and hit enter.

http://lamplightersoftware.com/dsm.php

Abilify

Aripiprazole Reported By
Adverse Reaction Cases MD CN OT PH LW NR
Suicidal Ideations 93 16 38 42 1 1 6
Attempted Suicides 51 31 13 19 1 1 1
Completed Suicides 92 84 20 52 1 0 0
Deaths Not From Suicide 279 207 140 130 11 4 2
Homicidal Ideations 11 6 2 8 0 0 0
Homicides 9 7 5 1 0 2 0
Hypomania/Mania 106 48 30 41 2 0 3
Heart Disease 100 62 46 42 3 5 0
Movement Disorders 1,692 650 510 517 85 5 38
Birth Defects 30 17 11 17 2 0 1
Premature Births 13 11 4 2 2 0 0
Prenatal/Neonatal Deaths 71 66 13 21 7 0 0

Risperdal

Risperidone Reported By
Adverse Reaction Cases MD CN OT PH LW NR
Suicidal Ideations 142 86 63 51 3 2 10
Attempted Suicides 248 248 25 53 17 6 11
Completed Suicides 107 84 12 37 9 4 4
Deaths Not From Suicide 900 788 135 357 75 48 33
Homicidal Ideations 16 16 2 14 0 0 0
Homicides 14 14 3 1 2 1 1
Hypomania/Mania 31 18 8 9 0 0 5
Heart Disease 318 262 37 90 44 8 18
Movement Disorders 964 535 226 355 132 37 76
Birth Defects 50 37 3 24 6 0 3
Premature Births 11 9 0 6 0 0 0
Prenatal/Neonatal Deaths 45 34 12 22 4 0 0

And those are only the cases where anyone bothered to make and report the connection, in under 5 years.

Dr Peter Breggin is in the article. He’s been on these drugs and psychiatric abuse for decades. He’s got a site. Loads of evidence condemning the drugs.

http://breggin.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=27&Itemid=37

Finish off the 2nd Amendment? You bet.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 3:02:02 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You nailed that right.

If I had been here a few minutes ago, I would have beat you to it!

From now on, I don’t care a whit about what weapon, tool or whatever the monster used to injure and kill people.

I want to know: WHAT MEDZ WHERE THEY JACKED UP ON AND WHO WAS THE IDIOT PSYCHOBABBLER WHO JACKED THEM UP?

Criminal charges need to start flowing for these quacks.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 3:02:30 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Unfortunately that’s not the case any more. A LOT of girls are getting jacked up on Ritalin now, too.

Some say its the reason for the “girls gone wild” phenomenon.


19 posted on 08/09/2012 3:05:17 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: All

You might also want to see this post.

Study Reveals Anti-Conservative Discrimination Among Psychologists

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916048/posts


20 posted on 08/09/2012 3:07:30 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“I want to know: WHAT MEDZ WHERE THEY JACKED UP ON AND WHO WAS THE IDIOT PSYCHOBABBLER WHO JACKED THEM UP?

Criminal charges need to start flowing for these quacks.”

Joe Biederman & 2 more kiddie shrinks at Harvard got over $4 Million to split 3 ways from the makers of Risperdal. In return, they discovered a 4,016% Increase in early childhood Bipolar, which could be treated with Risperdal.

Read all about it.

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/index.php?searchword=Biederman&option=com_search&Itemid=5

You Damn well better believe criminal charges need to start flowing for these quacks!


21 posted on 08/09/2012 3:26:00 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Third Person

Brave New World——we are here-—actually have parents/parent allowing the destruction of the minds of their own children. After normalizing abortion-—preschool (strangers shaping children’s worldview)-—the slippery slope to killing the brain of their own children is next.

Conditioning, desensitizing and normalization -—it is what the schools do and media is designed to do.

All public schools should be obliterated. They are intentionally designed for “group think”—mass brainwashing and to create a USSA.

Cultural Marxists designed it with the help of the Fabian Socialists. It is pure evil—not only an unnatural way to learn-—it destroys interest in knowledge-—bores children who are brilliant-—(intentionally for radical egalitarianism) and destroys the culture-—they learn Marxist “collective” culture-—instead of learning the Values and Morality of their Christian parents—individuality and responsibility and Charity.


22 posted on 08/09/2012 3:28:00 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

My thoughts exactly... scary times.


23 posted on 08/09/2012 3:52:07 PM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
I have taught at Suburban, Rural and Urban schools. One of them was an alternative school.

I can't tell you the number of parents that came in asking for a recommendation from me to have their (usually) son examined by a Doctor to be put on meds.

I agreed exactly one time.

I am not saying that the drugs are worthless. not at all. Sometimes the kids need them desperately, but rarely.

24 posted on 08/09/2012 3:52:25 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: savagesusie
Brave New World——we are here-—actually have parents/parent allowing the destruction of the minds of their own children.

Usually I saw the opposite, it was the parents coming in asking about getting the kids medicated.

25 posted on 08/09/2012 3:55:40 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: verga

Whether they are active or passive-—they are still allowing their own biological offspring to be destroyed.

The normal Nature of Man and animals is to kill anyone who tries to harm their offspring.

We have FLIPPED Natural Law on its head through conditioning and desensitization and normalization of evil—no Virtue.

It is why homosexuality is being pushed so hard-—when you destroy the Laws of Nature-—pervert it to such a degree-—there is no Right and Wrong. No possibility in being Rational or normal. AND ALL THE KIDS will be damaged—so they can be controlled for life——for the One World Government-—Slaves—Drones.


26 posted on 08/09/2012 4:06:33 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

ah, Breggin’s comments are hyperbole and baloney

risperdal in combo with ADHD meds have made it possible for my ASD son to have a normal education experience for the past 7 years


27 posted on 08/09/2012 4:11:24 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: TSgt

Sarge, you are such a fricking genius

You just discovered the cure for autism spectrum disorders and how to get an autistic hyper kid to sit still long enough to get an education

spanking

I salute you


28 posted on 08/09/2012 4:17:54 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Powerful drugs in growing bodies... An Epi - genetic nightmare. Medicate them into submission.


29 posted on 08/09/2012 4:39:37 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today! Walker, Issa, Rubio,)
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To: RoseofTexas

“you’re a saint.”

I second that!!! Parents MUST take charge. My kids never had a chance to “get diagnosed” with anything, but I understand that most parents just want to know “what’s wrong”. With my kids, they felt it when they sat down...and all was well. To this day, they’ve never come close to having one of those drugs, and at this point, I couldn’t force anything.


30 posted on 08/09/2012 5:15:42 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

“anatomy of an epidemic”
best book i have read in quite awhile.
Just shocking what those psychotropic drugs do to people.
Running around the block a couple of times is about 1000 times better for everyone.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 6:48:08 PM PDT by genghis
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To: the invisib1e hand

When my son was 4, he was “diagnosed” with ADHD and the Quack wanted to put him on Zoloft. This caused some friction within the family. The outlaws were all for it :) I was against drugs and wanted to take a more holistic approach first. We began to watch his diet and started him on “fish oil” DHA and a herbal supplement for children with ADHD. He is now 8 and has improved tremendously over the last 4 years (not my opinion, the schools). He is not perfect and still has moments. But these moments do not justify putting him on an anti-psychotic medication. The one incident that will always stick out in my mind is the time that my ex-wife gave my son at a deck of presidential cards ( he was about 5). Two days later, he had memorized every president. You could ask him, who was the 15th president, and he would immediately answer. he could name the presidents in order forwards backwards and alphabetically..


32 posted on 08/09/2012 7:51:43 PM PDT by hippyhater
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
There is a link that has been found {not by mental health experts} linking both childhood and adult Vestibular Disorders meaning Inner Ear and sensory processing disorders to ADD ADHD type symptoms and Anxiety Disorders.

The important part is you can not treat this with ADD ADHD or even antidepressant medications. Parents I say this as an adult now in my mid 50's who was diagnosed with ADD ADHD as a kid in the 1960's. Have your suspect of ADD ADHD children checked by an Audiologist trained to test for and diagnose Central Auditory Processing Disorders.

I'm going to give you some symptoms of it. You say Billy feed the dog and take off the trash. Billy either doesn't respond or says huh. You repeat it. Billy again either says huh or goes and takes out the trash or feeds the dog but not both. Or the third time it is as if a switch was thrown Billy gets it in the middle of your third time telling him. Billy doesn't have ADD ADHD. Billy doesn't need a spanking. Billy likely is not playing games. Rather the third time Billys brain processed the entire message. There is no medication for this.

You have to adapt to Billy's problem and work around it. When giving instructions do it face to face. Billy may be reading your lips and processing faster than the auditory can process.

Other possible things pointing to this is childhood history of chronic ear infections or sinus allergies. Poor eye and muscle coordination and even shoes breaking over the side is yet another due too the labyrinth {balance} being out of kilter and the feet and legs compensate for it making them break over.

There can also be hyperactive type symptoms. This can be sensory triggered. What was the child doing right before. A lack of concentration is also common to this. Concentration for some Vestibular patients can be 15 minutes productive book time a day. Concentration is much more difficult and can be physically exhausting. All of this also can apply to some forms of adult Anxiety Disorders. It can happen at any point in your life. In very extreme cases it can be disabling. Before taking an antidepressant if diagnosed with possible Panic Attacks or Anxiety have your doctor do a Vestibular work up. The medication used to treat it is Valium or Xanax.

Been There, Done That, and have over 18 years accumulated knowledge and experience as a patient of the beast.

33 posted on 08/09/2012 8:09:05 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: CodeToad
parents are under pressure to have "normal" kids....

despite everything we wish for our kids....music ability...athleticism...height...lean...pretty...smart...etc etc....the NUMERO UNO thing we really deep down want is for our kids to be average....average to fit in with everyone else and not to be an outsider in any way...

so parents try to medicate their kids to do that...

I have a probable hyperactive grandchild....I hope to God they don't put him on meds....

when I was young, there were plenty of "odd" kids in school...no one got medicated and no one was cast off into side classes...we learned together...

34 posted on 08/09/2012 8:14:48 PM PDT by cherry (/)
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“I have a probable hyperactive grandchild”

Children are supposed to be ‘hyperactive”. They’re not adults willing to sit around at dinner parties and discuss adult topics in a manner befitting adults. They run around, scream, play, and burn energy like a squirrel on coffee. For that, adults want to drug them. I truly feel sorry for children today: No playgrounds to burn that energy and play, yet, we stuff them full of caffeine via sodas and tell them they had better sit perfectly still of be drugged. Oh, then when they gain weight from all that sugar and no play we tell them they’re fat and it’s all their fault.


35 posted on 08/09/2012 8:20:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: cva66snipe

“I’m going to give you some symptoms of it. You say Billy feed the dog and take off the trash. Billy either doesn’t respond or says huh. You repeat it. Billy again either says huh or goes and takes out the trash or feeds the dog but not both. Or the third time it is as if a switch was thrown Billy gets it in the middle of your third time telling him. Billy doesn’t have ADD ADHD. Billy doesn’t need a spanking. Billy likely is not playing games. Rather the third time Billys brain processed the entire message. There is no medication for this.”

That’s called being a kid. Parents rarely teach their children how to pay attention but then demands a medical problem if the child doesn’t pay attention. That’s being lazy and a total copout. Kids take time and effort. Kids rarely receive any effort to discipline them from day one to learn to behave and when the kid is several years old the parents want to find any other excuse except themselves to blame.

I had a sister with an “ADHD” child on Ritalin. Yep, typical kid. I gave that kid a week of personal and direct attention necessary for him to understand his responsibilities and that child became well-mannered and disciplined. He did what he needed to every time; put away his toys, brushed his teeth, and went to bed dead on time. He also knew that for his good behavior he got to spend time with me, watch a little TV, we played outside, and he generally enjoyed himself. My sister hates me to this day for that because I took away her excuse for being lazy and not taking the time to teach her own child. He is 25 now and in the Air Force and doing well. He remembers that week as the week he felt someone actually took time for him. He said for once he knew what was really expected of him and he knew the consequences, both good and bad, for his behavior: “Things weren’t just random and a bunch of screaming and yelling all the time”.

I believe some kids have medical problems, from real mental disorders to true hearing problems, but I refuse to believe every kid that acts like a kid has a problem.


36 posted on 08/09/2012 8:34:39 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad
Sorry about the length of this. It is a bunch of things you need to put together to determine what I am saying. Look a child with certain medical history seems to be prone to what I am saying. A research Neurologist/Pyschtraist made the link by accident. He started seeing that many of his ADD ADHD as well as Anxiety patients shared some common medical histories. The histories were related specifically to Vestibular Damage.

What has triggered it as an epidemic? Look at technology. Kids today are sensory bombarded with sounds, flashes, special effect TV that we as kids did not have. These events in a damaged processing system can trigger some very overwhelming self preservation signals within the brain. The kid can be playing say a video game having fun but when he's through he may be wound tight OR he may be very agiated tossing down the controller and walks away.

Take the same kid to the ball field and pitch a few balls to him to swing at. You say kep your eye on the ball and swing. The kid consistently swings early, late, or ducks aay. They can not control that it is the brain correcting what it sees as danger. The kid lacks the coordination ability to hit the ball consistently.

Next is reading. Have the kid read a couple of pages. Listen closely for skipped words and even a sentence. Have them try and copy something from a book or blackboard and see the difficulty they have. Look at what they wrote and tell them to correct errors. Don't be surprised if they make the same mistake several times. It's difficult. But once they do get something in their head into permenant memory they know it. There is an issue at the point of hearing or seeing and getting it into the portion of the brain that is permenant storing.

Tell a kid three words for example an apple, a dog, and a pencil. Give them a task to do and say now remeber those words. Don't be surprised if the task becomes difficult and done wrong or the words forgotten. It hits multi-tasking hard and as a result that is where the behavioral or Cognitive issues occur.

I'm 55 now. At age 12 upon recommendation of several professionals such as an eye doctor and occupational therapist I was placed for two years in a special education school. Not class but school that was set up to treat all aspects of childhood issues from Polio to blindness. Without that help I would not have pased my Navy or my Army NG physicals later on. I am also one eye functional another issue that kept me in hot water. Teachers said I was looking off not paying attention. Truth is only one eye at a time functions. Given a standard eye chart test I can pass easilly. Test for both eyes such as depth perception? Nope.

Watch for inappropiate responses to noises and visual events. A child for example who see's a snake and stops up his ears is not being cute and it's not a tanturm. It is the brain translating the danger incorrectly. How do I know? I would do it. By the way most of it doesn't stop in childhood.

i had severe sinus allergies as a very young kid. Serious enough to require shots. That will damage the Inner ear. Some as well I was born with. What youand others are missing is that much of these things were not with us in previous generations. The technology of today for some is triggering ADD ADHD type symptoms but this is not ADD nor ADHD is what I'm saying. It's not junk science and has little pharmacutical influence because to treat it usually requires learning enviroment modificaions and understanding the kids limitations and productive window related to books then utikllizing it. Use the other time for hands on learning.

Now reason this out a litle if a child has damaged sensory processing system what are drugs like Ritalin, Zoloft etc going to do? I know what they do adults with this. It is so serious that it can be as bad as LSD especially antidepressants. Again I have seen it.

Up till the time I was about in my early 30's I functioed OK in my work. Actually I was a darn good electrical trouble shooter as long as absolutely nothing distracted me like a pager etc. Then it hit.

Suddenly unexplainable things started happening to me. I'd start up stairs and be very weak after the third step or so. I would have to say to myself CLIMB and wait a couple of seconds and I had energy. I began having trouble doing simple task at one point I could not sign my name. Other things were I was not remembering task I had done or worse did not do. I was also a boiler operator and this was in a very large nursing home.

I tried to cover my tracks and just thought it was stress as I had been putting in some long hours. I took a weekend trip to Gatlinburg then to a place near Chatanooga with my wife. Coming home on the interstate I lost complete awareness of whee i was at, where I was going, why, how long etc and I was in a location I normally knew. This lasted 30 minutes or so. By the next night I was weak and that turned into a month off undergoing testing including brainwave and MRI all were negative. But I was doing something I had not done before. Cartain sounds would make me shudder violently in the shoulder bladesas would certain visual events. No real rhyme or reason at first. I went back to work and had a promtion coming.

One evening I recieved a trouble call in the retirement center anotherbuilding away about a loud machine noise. I went to the apartment and heard nothing unusual. I saw the woman who lived in it and she was distraught almost in tears and she normally was happy go lucky. I asked he what was wrong? She said that noise make it stop I can't handle it no more. I said OK take me to it. It was her A/C unit. I turned it off and she was happy. I told the nurse and she said it's odd she came back from the hospital like that earlier in the day.

I went down to my shop to kick back and eat my supper. I was leaned back in a chair agaisnt a dould door and someone behind the door yelled. i about went through the ceiling. Then it hit again the where was I, what was I doing. I could barely talk. I called my wife and said it hit me again. She said OK hang on I'm calling your dad to come to get you don't you drive. My wife is confined to a wheelchair. I told the switchboard operator who was my dispatcher to hold the tickets I had to leave as soon as my relief got there and I had called him in. For two days I stayed like that.

Doctors had no answer and said see a shrink. The shrink said Atypical Anxiety Disorder. I resigned my job as it was the right thing to do. I filed for disability and the examiner said he'd seen it but it had no name and I could not work again. The shrinks started me on antidepressants and they made the spasms worse and me agiated. The only medication that would help was Xanax but not all the time. I was also diagnosed as PTSD which for some life events I have gone through one would expect. but they could not pin this down especially the reaction to noises and visual effects.

After a couple of years I found a book at a second hand store called Phobia Free. When it comes to those type of books I am super skeptic. Many are written by well meaning persons but resolve nothing. This book though went into case histories and most sounded like mine including my childhood allergies. The problem is not chemical it is neurological damage in the Inner Ear and Cerebellar portion of thwe brain controlling sensory processing. Myshuddering or spasms are violent and last less than 5 seconds each time. I now know what they are. They are sensory induced Myoclonic Seizures. My Atypical General Anxiety Disorder is not that at all. It is a secondary condition of a primary condition caused my my semsory processing system being damaged.

Within a couple more years I developed Meniers Disease. I'm also now over 50% hearing loss in both ears. The antidepressants? LOL I finally after about the 5th one said you aren't giving those to me I won't take them I want Xanax. The doctor said no I said your fired and found another.

New doctor tlked to me and he said yea I've seen it and here is what helps. Where before I took 2MG of Xanax tice a day he said try .5 or a half MG four times a day. It helped but 18 years later I still have seizures sometimes usually a few times a day.

Now remeber the woman in the apartment with the loud noise in her room? If I were a betting man I would placed a weeks wages on either an Inner Ear infection or Inner Ear Disorder.

Not everyone get this bad. But I was born in 1957 and even in my childhood the sensory triggers we have today most weren't there but even the ones that were looking back were triggering me.

I can spot adults who have milder forms of this in Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes etc when the P.A. or an alarm goes off or if it's crowded. They wantthe hell out of there yesterday LOL.

Here is a pretty unbaised buy educational read that explains more COGNITIVE ASPECTS OF VESTIBULAR DISORDERS

I don't discount the fact some kids just lack discipline. Lord knows I had my share LOL. But an real issue in kids that carries on into adulthood is not being mentioned but ADD ADHD is. Again C.A.P.D. generally requires no medication except treating the allergy etc doing the damage to start with..

I did not spell check but did proof read my post. How many errors do you see? A child with this will have problems correcting or for that matter spotting mistakes to start with.

37 posted on 08/09/2012 10:42:57 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

I may get flamed for this, but I don’t give a frak...

ADHD is a sequencing disorder. The issue is a lack of the ability to distinguish levels of input, and then to properly process them in the appropriate order. The only REAL answer is training the child how to “pay attention” in the sequence expected by society.

Drugs, in a true therapeutic setting, are a tool to help the child focus. By rigorous training (guided by computer software designed to help reward correct stimulus response) the child can learn to overcome the lack of a filter.

But drugs, as an antidote, are crap. They do not solve the problem. They simply mask the symptoms.


38 posted on 08/09/2012 10:44:30 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: silverleaf

The article is specifically referring to ADHD, not autism, and that was the context of my post and accompanying graphic.

Many ADHD types just need a good old fashioned spanking.

Autism is a legitimate and horrible disorder not cured by spanking.

Grow up...

TSgt


39 posted on 08/10/2012 4:05:48 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: hippyhater
Sometimes just TLC can go a long way to solving problems.

The outlaws were vehemently opposed to my decision to homeschool. They were wrong, naturally.

They're your children after all.

40 posted on 08/10/2012 5:11:41 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: cva66snipe

What you are saying is some children have a diagnosable physical issue with hearing. Sure, that can happen, no doubt, and if suspected the child could easily be tested for hearing loss and interpretation disorders. What I am saying is that the massive number of kids with supposed medical conditions is unreal. Your condition seems to be a physical issue. As a pilot I have trained in various flight physiology classes and know the strange yet very real issues with vestibular confusions. It wouldn’t be funny at all if they happened during normal life due to a physical ailment. The affects can be very disturbing and cause a person to be completely dysfunctional.

When I was 7, in the 3rd grade, instead of working with me as a ‘troubled child’ the system wanted to discount me, so they deemed me mentally retarded. Those skipped words when reading, the excessive talking, the lack of memory, the lack of attention, the apparent dyslexia, the hyperactivity were all normal in a kid of that age, but they as adults simply wanted me to sit still, be a genius and learn through some kind of osmosis. In other words, they didn’t want me to be a kid and they didn’t want to be adults.

Turns out I have a high IQ and was simply bored to tears with the school system. Thank God we moved from California and into other school systems that worked with “gifted” children. I have had a great career doing what I do because I could tap into those gifts. Had we stayed in Kali they wanted me on Ritalin, to drug me into stupidity. Another thank God, my dad was in the Air Force medical field and knew about Ritalin and would have no part in it. He had Air Force docs test me, they found I wasn’t retarded and kept Kali’s ‘diagnosis’ of mental retardation out of my records. They knew the Dr. Spock treatment for hyperactive intelligent kids wasn’t Ritalin, it was to stretch their minds with advance subjects and good physical activities in school and it worked perfectly.

I am still hyper, still get into anything and everything, still skip words when reading, still type various characters in reverse order, still get bored inside 5 seconds with most things as I already know the answer, but I can study anything, intensely solve any problem including the supposed ‘impossible’, still spends hours concentrating, and work with people at a social level. I learned those skills; they certainly weren’t natural for me, or really any kid. A number of great teachers and mentors spent their time to teach and train me.

Another nasty side effect of telling every kid they are not normal: Everyone now has an excuse for bad behaviors and that excuse is used often in their adult lives to the point they become dysfunctional.

I married a great woman that is the clinical director in a psychiatric hospital. She routinely sees patients that are misdiagnosed, especially the younger crowd, even those in the military, which have been told their whole lives that their perfectly normal behaviors are not normal and they need medical help. They are extremely confused and just don’t know how to act. Deprogramming is the usual solution, to teach them that they are normal and do not need medications. We have screwed several generations of people telling them they are abnormal and need medications or medical intervention, when what they really needed was an adult in their young lives. They are taught at a younger age that there is something wrong with them and she sees them later in life to tell them there isn’t.

There are people that truly have medical conditions beyond their control and need help, but not the 10% of this nation’s children that are given psychoactive drugs for perfectly normal behaviors.


41 posted on 08/10/2012 7:32:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: beaversmom; the invisib1e hand; Third Person; TSgt; CodeToad; RoseofTexas; darkangel82; ...

I’m compiling a Ping List for Psychobabble/PhRMAfraud. Please FRmail me if you’d like to be on it, and please Ping me with any related FR postings.

RE: my comment #17. Note the huge number of Movement Disorders reported from these drugs. Movement Disorders is a euphemism for Tardive Dyskinesia and Dystonia.
These conditions are not in the muscles themselves but are the externalized symptoms of brain and CNS damage caused by the drugs.

See a Video of TD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0EbgpyztCA

Here’s a Wiki on TD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia

See the entire Frontline Series on the Medicated Child which beaversmom linked to a segment of.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/medicatedchild/

To those who think these drugs are helping your child, wake up. The psychiatric response to visible TD is to increase the dosage again and again or add another drug to cover up the symptoms which the drugs caused to begin with, which just makes it progressively worse.

These are AIMS scales. The industry uses them to rate the severity of the “Movement Disorder” damage they’re causing.

http://www.atlantapsychiatry.com/forms/AIMS.pdf
http://www.mhsip.org/library/pdfFiles/abnormalinvoluntarymovementscale.pdf
http://msh.mt.gov/volumeii/treatment/abnormalinvoluntarymovementscale.pdf

Here, is the DSM itself online

http://behavenet.com/dsm-iv-tr-numerical-listing-codes-and-diagnoses

These are Insurance Co. acceptable billing codes, from the DSM. They are charging Medicare and Medicaid to Worsen Iatrogenic TD which they admit they Caused!

332.1 Neuroleptic-Induced Parkinsonism
333.1 Medication-Induced Postural Tremor
333.7 Neuroleptic-Induced Acute Dystonia
333.82 Neuroleptic-Induced Tardive Dyskinesia
333.90 Medication-Induced Movement Disorder NOS

And you’ll Love the next one.
333.99 Neuroleptic-Induced Acute Akathisia

Akathisia is the drug produced mental illness that causes those murders and suicides.

What really ought to fry your a** here is that the shrink Industry told the Dept of Health, Ed. And Welfare about their AIMS scale in 1977. The Fed Govt. has known Exactly what these crippling drugs are since 1977, and they haven’t taken them off the market yet.

Here’s a psychiatrist explaining how easy it is to be declared Crazy and Drugged with psychiatric chemicals. In this case it’s an antidepressant instead of an antipsychotic, but the principle at work is the point. Any excuse will do. Any excuse.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/09/08/pathologizing-your-period

This invented mind disease was the result of Lilly’s expiration of Patent protection on their Prozac, so their APA flunkies created Pre Menstrual Dysphoric Disorder as a psychiatric disease and Lilly re-patented Prozac to treat it under the name Sarafem. It’s still Prozac but now it’s in a Patented pink pill instead of a Patent Expired green pill.


42 posted on 08/10/2012 12:09:00 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Add me to the list, please. Thank you for the effort!


43 posted on 08/10/2012 1:07:20 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Dear God please do not take these drugs off the market or make them harder to get

They have been a godsend to my autistic son and, from my network of contacts, to many other kids with autism spectrum. Not what they were developed for, but they do work for some kids.

The side effects are ALWAYS carefully explained and monitored by the ped with med checks, and the risperidone would be withdrawn, not increased, for any contraindication

Please do NOT ping me to some alarmist drivel with a bunch of commenters who “cured” their kids (or claim they could cure mine) by spanking or better parenting, and who assume that because of what they read on the internet they are smarter than tens of thousands of American doctors who they suspect and accuse of being drug pushing tools of the pharm industry.

psychobabble
indeed


44 posted on 08/10/2012 3:09:09 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Looks like you have done a lot of grunt work here. Please keep me on your ping list.

I’m just an old pig farmer from the backwash of PA, and as such not very educated on these types of things. But I know (gut feeling) that these monsters who take it on themselves to cancel innocent peoples’ life tickets are driven by something other than just mental retardation.

When you try to find the root of a disease, you look for a pattern. And when the pattern points to a culture of psychobabblers who seem to be practicing alchemy at best, one needs to focus on them with a laser eye.

The psychobabble industry on the other hand, will of course try to deflect that focus by pointing fingers at the tools their monsters use, and blaming the ready availability of those tools. Gunz, gunz, gunz.

A firearm is only a tool. The real weapon is the mind that wields that tool. And the so-called “doctor” who cultivated that mind, is guilty of fabricating the weapon.

About time to point fingers at the REAL culprits behind these atrocities.

Wonder who created that punk in Norway? Bet they all ran for the hills after he did his thing.

Remember, Tim McVeigh killed almost 200 and never even had a firearm.

He knew how to use bullsh!t to “get er done.”


45 posted on 08/10/2012 4:33:14 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: CodeToad
I think the condition has always been there. But what about the triggers though? That is the key I think. The so called epidemic is of our own doing with our own technology advances. Generations before in most persons with this it likely would not have shown up. But the person with it would have been the ones who kept moving west for example out of towns away from crowds. It also hits you in family gatherings. For many a reunion, Thanksgiving, Christmas, gatherings is also tax them because of the many conversations at ones. Again it hits the tasking part of the brain trying to track activity. The brain if it doesn't get what it feels is an appropriate response then you'll likely get Cognitive issues as a result.

The fear of heights is another. Most people who have a fear of heights likely do not understand why. It isn't a phobia in the mental health sense at all where as most others phobias are phobias based on traumatic experieences etc.. Our brain is geared for survival and is constantly doing checks and balances. Now the person may not even be aware they have poor balance but the brain does know this. The brain must also compensate which it does. It is that survival portion that triggers alert say on a ladder or roof. Much in the same way it triggers anxiety. If you don't respond it triggers fear. Someone with a fear of heights likely has poor balance. CBT as such as a treatment for that is pointless and even dangerous.

You mention Dyslexia? That too goes with this and that too Dr Levinson has linked to Vestibular symptoms to Dyslexic type symptoms back in the 1970's although for two decades he was ridiculed by mental health experts for it.

This type of disorder seems to somewhat genetic as well. I have at least two cousins and an aunt that had it. My dad had a touch of it. I'm the only one who developed seizures from it though. That is why I take the Xanax. Other medications like SSRI's or antidepressants will put me into Serotonin Syndrome an adverse reaction most Shrinks are believe it or not are completely clueless about and some dare call it rubbish. I have seen it first hand. I diagnosed it in my wife when six doctors failed to do so simply by looking up Trazadone and Zoloft. It is something I pray to GOD I never witness again in anyone. BTW my wife due to Quadriplegia suffers from severe Inner Ear issues common to paraplegics and quads. Inner Ear function must be regained usually on a tilt table.

I think we are on the edge of what our brains can deal with sensory wise and that is the epidemic in itself. Also keep in mind a few, all, or anywhere in between symptoms I mentioned might show up. There does also seem to be a very definite connection to this and stress. Stress in an adult will worsen the symptoms. Most persons think stree comes from bad events> That's not true. A promotion you are thrilled about for example can bring stress. So can any life changes. One too many things for the brain to juggle and CRASH! Actually stress can trigger the onset.

Remember I said I had PTSD? I had previously lost my first wife to death, found a girlfriend I was dating and she became quad on a date that kept her in the hospital six months in which that time we married, nearly lost her then and several times after ward, saw a few other highly traumatic things that lead to the PTSD all of it within a few years time. It all hit at the same time though.

There is a book well worth the money & read called Phobia Free by Harold Levinson MD and he does go into case histories. His book was what lead me down this path to what I have learned and it made 100% difference in how I allowed doctors to treat this. Understanding the beast is about 75% of the process in learning to deal with it. If not for that book I could have become an Agoraphobic or even died from wrong medications.

How I adapted also goes against the text book practices of exposures help and are a must. No they don't. Does a hammer to the fingers every hour of the day adapt one to pain? Exposures are just that and they can trigger attacks. That doesn't mean stay home in a silent room rather it means doing detective work and learning your triggers and you control your environment and you control your exposures but most important is listen to your body.

I'm on an awake all night sleep most the day cycle and with that I can shop at a Wally World for long periods real late, shop at the grocery store real late and not have the P.A. put me on the ceiling and try to shop in the confusion it causes me. Again this goes against the standards of most experts who deal with anxiety. Most are way behind on the learning curve or they are locked into the Phobic Mode as being root cause.

BTW do you feet hurt :>} Poor mom and dad for the life of them could not figure out how I wore out shoes in less than a month breaking the sides over. I've wore corective insoles for 20 years now. But my feet and legs are now contorted and arthritis setting in due to that. I walk with a cane as of two years ago for balance and ability to lift myself from a squat.

It scares me doctors are real quick to pass out SSRI's etc for anxiety and not do extensive neurological case history and work ups. These are the persons most likely to develop Serotonin Syndrome. My wife thought she was Tess or Della Reese on Touched By an Angel and we is white LOL. We can laugh now but it cost her parts of her life from partial amnesia. You would think a doctor or doctors who saw condition improve when medication was stopped would say hey whats this? Nope in walks a shrink and says up the Zoloft. Bang one hour after injestion of the meds she was in it again. No they did not pick up on that part either. I did a web search of the two meds plus adverse reaction and first hit was their pharmacology professors article on Serotonin Syndrome. They didn't want to believe it even then. The did not blood work up, no CT or MRI because they were so darn convinced she was crazy and pyschotic. BTW she was being treated for PTDS. Why? Because a dentist darn near killed her with a pain pill meant for cancer patients to pull a tooth. She had a reaction and went in a Coma. She later needed dental work and had a fear of it. Thus the SSRI's.

Physical conditions or neurological conditions often create secondary cognitive symptoms. When the primary condition is mised and the behavioral treated instead that is bad news right? In my case which one were they treating? That's where I'm coming from. Ever doctor said SSRI and off the Xanax you go because it's very dangerous.

Until I found the cause on my own there was no real help. One smart psychiatrist my last one I had actually did figure out the right dosages on the Xanax which is low but consistent. He said never take any class of antidepressants again or I could be in trouble. That was before my wife had Serotonin Syndrome. That too goes against the grain of current practices.

I went to the V.A. a year or so ago for an exam with their primary doc simply to get a referral with him for their Audiology Dept for hearing aids. I have my own primary doctor. VA Clinic doc about had a calf when he read I had been taking Xanax 18 years. He nearly insisted he was going to change it. I said no you aren't and explained to him why. He didn't like it though. My wife has taken it 27 years. It was when Zoloft and Trazadone was added the reaction happened. Xanax likely saved her life as Benzo is the treatment for Serotonin Syndrome.

I can go deeper. My sibling about 5 years my senior has a history of strokes and now developed onset of Dementia. She kept falling and no one could quite figure it out. Her communication skills would not allow her to express things well or sequence what happened. We talked to the nurse at the assisted living and all came to the conclusion she was going into a panic mode. It boiled down to her always falling in the TV room and her getting up to leave.

Finally in desperation we took her to a walk in clinic. We talked to the doctor who had seen her a few times. I told the doctor what we saw happening and what we thought was the cause. He said let's try Valium then. We got her back to the center and the nurse gave her the Valium. Within 15 minutes it was like a switch was thrown. She could communicate within reason and comprehension, express herself, and had much better coordination. The calls about falls went from several a week to once every few months. The Valium toned down her sensory system so she could function. Many would think step up the sensory system and enhance sensory transmission as is done with SSRI's etc. When the receptors and the processing system is damaged all you get is sensory flooding on inaccurate or corrupted impulses that causes the computer {brain} to crash. The computer can only task so much.

Yea I was called stupid and Tard a lot growing up. The special ED/physical rehab school added to it but the school was what trained me to adapt and bought me 20 more years before point of disability. They worked on eye-mucle coordination two years. But I will never pass a Field Sobriety test LOL. Seriously I about got a DUI one night even though I hadn't been drinking. I had been pulled over for speeding.

I can't as such study nor now at this point into it read books. Books especially technical ones are look in them for specific information for a specific issue. Math concepts like Geometry and Algebra were not possible either. But yet the more educated ones in the family ask me how much things cost plus tax LOL. I learned shortcuts and do fast rounding off in my head.

I don't discount the fact many kids simply have disciplinary issues especially in today's society. But I also see parents who apply proper discipline have kids who have not only behavioral but learning issues and it's a lot more than when I was a kid. Being a troubleshooter my nature is too look and see what was changed? My generation in the 60's had black and white TV no real special effect thrills. This generation had Lion King and that movie puts me into major sensory overload. Look sometime at the extreme flashing in it and the fast scene changes. Epileptic in nature perhaps but not detectable on the EEG?

I passed all diagnostics like EEG, CT, MRI fine no problems. Yet my attacks produce severe upper torso seizures. It stays above the arms hits shoulders and neck like ice water or a cattle prod for 3-5 seconds. No pain but can very quickly exhaust me. A Xanax under the tongue will stop it sometimes it takes two if I'm away from the house. OR If at home I can pick up my acoustic guitar and play it and stop the seizures most of the time.

I believe many people have forms of this going back to undiagnosed and overlooked cerebellar-vestibular disorders. It is to what degree that will determine how much it effects them as kids and adults.

In my first cousins case he spent thousands of dollars on testing and doctors. I told him with his history of tubes in his ears as a kid he likely had what I did. Finally he went to a semi retired General Practitioner who had been there done that seen all and the generation where a GP treated all. He asked my cousin were you in Nam? Yes. Did you wear ear protection? He laughed and said what was that back then? He said and you had tubes and ear infections as a kid? Yep. You have Inner Ear Damage or a related Disorder was the doctors answer. His mother my dads sister also had it. It's more common than people think. Doctors due to time constraints and specialized medicine rather than the old GP Doctor of all Trades is missing it.

46 posted on 08/10/2012 8:38:36 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: CodeToad
BTW I knew that compared to other kids abilities I was in fact not normal. Sports was hell. Gym as hell. I could do something most of my friends and classmates could not. I could camp alone all summer on the lake and be happy. There might be another camp a few hundred feet up the lake but I was on my own with the boat, dog, and food. dad checked me every day or so brought in ice etc. I could not run the mile and was always last. But in my teens I could out walk any jock on a ridge and cover likely twice the ground LOL.

Finally getting the answers as to just what the heck was wrong with me allowed me some Inner Peace about myself and I no longer saw myself as a failure. I'm also a pretty darn good unlicensed nurse :>}

47 posted on 08/10/2012 8:54:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?; beaversmom; the invisib1e hand; Third Person; TSgt; CodeToad; RoseofTexas; ...
Years ago My sister called me up crying that the school wanted her to have my nephew put on Ritalin. I asked her what test they had done to determine that he needed this drug. She told me they wanted the doctor to test him.

I told her I would be over on Saturday to test him myself. I had two lawn chairs and fishing poles and a cooler of cokes and sandwiches. I took him to a spot I knew didn't have a single fish.

I taught him to bait his hook cast and reel in. I told him had had to sit quiet and still or the fish would not bite.

That child sat for over three hours casting and reeling in very slowly. He got up to pee once and ate a couple of sandwiches.

I took him home told my sister he didn't have ADD or ADHD, that he was bored.

I told her that the school could have him tested (At the schools expense) only if they tested his IQ first (again at the schools expense).

Two weeks later she called me up and said that his IQ was above normal and they wanted to move him up a grade.

I told her they were now going to the opposite extreme and to leave him where he was but with a different teacher.

The very next year he was given student of the month two months in a row.

48 posted on 08/11/2012 5:30:49 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: silverleaf

Message received and I will not Ping you with any Alarmist Drivel.

But as for the Doctor ALWAYS explaining the side effects, THAT Dear Silverleaf is impossible. If they did they’d be thrown into prison. The FDA knows the stuff causes murders. Do the Doctors tell you that these drugs take 25 years of a person’s life expectancy?

Since Breggin is hyperbole to you, perhaps others here would appreciate Dr Grace Jackson’s take on antipsychotics.

http://psychrights.org/states/alaska/CaseXX/3AN-08-493PS/JacksonOnNLtoxicity.pdf

For those who haven’t seen this, I left it on another post.

The Psychological Arts as they’re called, are an openly hostile abomination diametrically opposed to every tenet of conservatism.

Carl Jung is their current Guru: their antidote to the human condition.

http://home.earthlink.net/~thetabus/eugenics/eutt-6.htm

“1939 An interview with psychiatrist Carl Jung is published in Hearst’s International- Cosmopolitan. In it, he calls Mussolini a man of style and good taste who was “warm and human.” About Hitler, he says, “There is no question but that Hitler belongs in the category of the truly mystic medicine man. As somebody commented about him at the last Nuremberg party congress, since the time of Mohammed nothing like it has been seen in this world. This markedly mystic characteristic of Hitler’s is what makes him do things which seem to us illogical, inexplicable, curious and unreasonable...So you see, Hitler is a medicine man, a form of a spiritual vessel, a demi-deity or, even better, a myth.”

This anti-semitic Hitler worshipper, and his science, were researching seances.

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/3847/the_occult_world_of_cg_jung.html

Want to know who Freud really was? English Prof. Frederick Crews is the go to guy.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=96726&sectioncode=26

How about Alfred Adler?

http://www.lifecourseinstitute.com/Adler.htm

The 3 of these A**holes are the founders of the art of Depth Psychology, upon which all the other subdivisions of psych are based or derived.

How about a page of quotes from the psych field?

http://psychquotes.com/

“Psychiatry’s Views on Conservatives

“In August 2003, the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) and the National Science Foundation (NSF) announced the results of their $1.2 million taxpayer-funded study. It stated, essentially, that traditionalists are mentally disturbed. Scholars from the Universities of Maryland, California at Berkeley, and Stanford had determined that social conservatives, in particular, suffer from ‘mental rigidity,’ ‘dogmatism,’ and ‘uncertainty avoidance,’ together with associated indicators for mental illness.”

Source: B.K. Eakman, Chronicles, October 2004, pp. 28-29.
“Political conservatism as motivated social cognition” By Jost, John T.; Glaser, Jack; Kruglanski, Arie W.; Sulloway, Frank J. APA Psychological Bulletin, May 2003, Vol 129(3), p 339-375”

As for Edward Bernays and Goebbels, Goebbels owned Bernays complete works, which were originally titled Propaganda, and were only subsequently re-labeled as public relations After it was discovered that Goebbels had made extensive use of them.

Whether it’s called psychology or psychiatry it’s all the same knowledge base and its end game is to sell disability and drugs. Here’s what it’s costing us from science writer Robert Whitaker whose spent 25 years covering the psychiatric beat.

http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Epidemic-Bullets-Psychiatric-Astonishing/dp/0307452425/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344443915&sr=8-1&keywords=anatomy+of+an+epidemic+by+robert+whitaker

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The Disability Numbers

There are no good studies yet on the percentage of “early onset” bipolar patients when they reach adulthood, end up on the SSI and SSDI disability rolls. However, the astonishing jump in the number of “severely mentally ill” children receiving SSI speaks volumes about the havoc that is being wreaked. There were 16,200 Psychiatrically disabled youth under 18 years old on the SSI rolls in 1987, and they comprised less than 6 percent of the total number of disabled children. Twenty years later, there were 561,569 disabled mentally ill children on the SSI rolls, and they comprised 50 percent of the total. This epidemic is even hitting preschool children. The prescribing of psychotropic drugs to two-year-olds and three-year-olds began to become more commonplace about a decade ago, and sure enough, the number of severely mentally ill children under 6 years of age receiving SSI has tripled since then, rising from 22,453 in 2000 to 65,928 in 2007 (98)

Moreover, the SSI numbers only begin to hint at the scope of the harm being done. Everywhere there is evidence of a worsening of the mental health of children and teenagers. From 1995 to 1999, psychiatric-related Emergency Room visits by children increased 59 percent. (99)

The deteriorating mental health of the nation’s children, declared U.S. Surgeon General David Satcher in 2001, constituted a “health crisis.” (100) Next, colleges were suddenly wondering why so many of their students were suffering manic episodes or behaving in disturbed ways; a 2007 survey discovered that one in six college students had deliberately “cut or burned self” in the prior year. (101) All of this led the U.S. Government Accountability Office to investigate what was going on, and it reported in 2008 that one in every fifteen young adults, eighteen to twenty-six years old, is now “seriously mentally ill”. There are 680,000 in that age group with bipolar disorder and another 800,000 ill with major depression, and, the GAO noted, this was in fact an undercount of the problem, as it didn’t include young adults who were homeless, incarcerated, or institutionalized.

That is where we stand as a nation today. Twenty years ago our society began regularly prescribing psychiatric drugs to children and adolescents, and now one out of every fifteen Americans enters adulthood with a “serious mental illness.” That is proof of the most tragic sort that our drug based paradigm of care is doing a great deal more harm than good. The medicating of children and youth became commonplace only a short time ago, and already it has put millions onto a path of lifelong illness.

98: Social Security Administration, annual statistical reports on the SSI program, 1996-2008, Social Security Bulletin, Annual Statistical Supplement, 1988-1992
99: Pediatric Academic Societies, Pediatric Psychiatric admissions on the rise,” May 16, 2000 press release
100: D. Satcher, Report of Surgeon General’s Conference on Children’s Mental Health (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services 2001).
101: B. Whitford: “Depression, eating disorders and other mental illnesses are on the rise, Newsweek, August 27, 2008”

Here’s a 13pg pdf that presaged his book’s release.
http://psychrights.org/articles/ehpppsychdrugepidemic(whitaker).pdf

“CONCLUSION
A century ago, fewer than two people per 1,000 were considered to be “disabled” by mental illness and in need of hospitalisation . By 1955, that number had jumped to 3 .38 people per 1,000, and during the past 50 years, a period when psychiatric drugs have been the cornerstone of care, the disability rate has climbed steadily, and has now reached around 20 people per 1,000. (Table 2) . As with any epidemic, one would suspect that an outside agent of some type-a virus, a bacterial infection, or an environmental toxin was causing this rise in illness . That is indeed the case here . There is an outside agent fueling this epidemic of mental illness, only it is to be found in the medicine cabinet . Psychiatric drugs perturb normal neurotransmitter function, and while that perturbation may curb symptoms over a short term, over the long run it increases the likelihood that a person will become chronically ill, or ill with new and more severe symptoms . A review of the scientific literature shows quite clearly that it is our drug-based paradigm of care that is fueling this modem-day plague.”

And yes the drugs are involved, and responsible for decades of mass shootings as they’re concurrently eating us out of house and home in dollars and cents.

Does any of this disgusting nonsense look like a Win in any way for Anyone, let alone Conservatives?


49 posted on 08/11/2012 8:49:56 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: verga

Great story! The problem is that the liberal school systems are full of morons that are unable to address smart students. There was a movie years go whereby smart kids were dumbed down and stupid kids were artifically made smart just so every kid was “average”.


50 posted on 08/11/2012 9:37:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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