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Where is the outrage over "outrageous" food prices?
TownHall ^ | Aug. 10, 2012 | Carol Platt Liebau

Posted on 08/10/2012 5:00:07 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT

....the Obama campaign is trying hard to "reach out" to women -- ....with false claims about the GOP's plans to take away contraception.... But for women who are really paying attention, this should raise some eyebrows: As the graphic below illustrates, grocery prices have risen 15% just since the start of President Obama's term.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: foodprices; inflation; news
Why isn't the press talking about the out-of-control food prices? Do they not actually go to the grocery store? Do they have so much money, they aren't impacted by the upward-spiraling prices? Do they just scan their debit card and never really pay attention to what something costs? I truly don't get it!

The only lame reports I do hear, usually say something like "food prices increased one and a half percent last year"! Say what? I'd be willing to bet prices are increasing more than 10% A MONTH! Yesterday, I was shopping for a pot roast. A medium size chuck roast cost $18.47! Good grief! I can't be the only one who is astounded at this. Peanut butter costs over $4 a jar. Jelly is just about as bad. I find myself having to buy hamburger or chicken (fish is outrageous!) and I still pay about double what I paid 3 years ago.

Come on Fox (or anyone) - all you have to do is go to a local grocery store and interview the people at the meat counter, the peanut butter aisle or in the check out line! How hard would it be to examine the actual "buying power" of the average family income, now compared to when good-ol George was president?

What do you think the average housewife is more concerned about - food prices or making the Catholic church pay for abortifacients for its workers?

1 posted on 08/10/2012 5:00:13 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

One of my grocery stores changed out their metal slatted carts with ones that are plastic with quarter-sized openings, rather than slats, in the basket area.

That was probably because — with so much product shrinkage — too many items kept slipping through the slats and falling onto the floor.

:)

[I detest product shrinkage. Just raise the price. I would rather pay more for products I use than get less for the same price.]


2 posted on 08/10/2012 5:07:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

This is just one more topic (hyper-inflation) that the MSM has declared off limits. Should Romney win it will become a major topic for tv and press reports. Count on it.


3 posted on 08/10/2012 5:10:02 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Inflation rate does not count food or fuel. I say BS!

Self Serving Bastards should be hung.


4 posted on 08/10/2012 5:14:14 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: kjo
This is just one more topic (hyper-inflation) that the MSM has declared off limits. Should Romney win it will become a major topic for tv and press reports. Count on it.

That's why Romney should be talking about it RIGHT NOW! Romney's people should be standing outside grocery stores, talking to people who just paid half a weeks' salary to pay for food.

Make it an issue! Quit letting the left and the mainstream media determine the conversation!

5 posted on 08/10/2012 5:27:03 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: hadaclueonce
Inflation rate does not count food or fuel. I say BS! Self Serving Bastards should be hung.

We keep being told that the inflation rate doesn't include food or fuel and we're expected to be good little children, go back to our corner and quit noticing the cost of stuff!

Romney - if you would talk to the average housewife, trying to feed her family, you would get a lot further than you do trying to defend your position on contraception. (Contraception isn't even an issue, except to the "Distractor in Chief"!)

6 posted on 08/10/2012 5:31:22 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Romney and Romney's people keep getting distracted by shiny objects -- traps the opposition keep setting for them.


7 posted on 08/10/2012 5:36:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: hadaclueonce

“Inflation rate does not count food or fuel.”
____________________________

I never could figure that one out either. I wonder what the REAL inflation rate would be if they were counted in?


8 posted on 08/10/2012 5:37:20 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
That's why Romney should be talking about it RIGHT NOW!

Romney needs to fire that worthless, feckless excuse of a campaign director RIGHT NOW! That is, if he's really interested in having even the dimmest flicker of hope of winning in November.

9 posted on 08/10/2012 5:38:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: ScottinVA

As much as I hate Karl Rove, boy can he run a campaign.

I would also bring in someone who would make Obama’s life a miserable hell for the next 10 weeks.

Me.


10 posted on 08/10/2012 5:42:35 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Blame high fuel costs.

But, don’t overlook the Dems and Eviro-whackos KILLING of some of the most fertile farmland in America.

The population control crowd also happen to be anti-capitalist, anti-industry, socialists, who don’t want America to be feeding, and developing the 3rd world.

They’re the same ones that banned DDT, when they learned how many millions of lives were being saved in the 3rd world. (Nat’l Geographic, July 2007)


11 posted on 08/10/2012 5:44:20 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: TomGuy

If Romney wins, all of a sudden we’ll be bombarded with “high grocery prices”, “high gas prices” “military deaths in Afghanistan”, “how dangerous Iran is”, “the homeless”, “sad stories of the unemployed”, and a myriad of other topics currently off limits in the “Democrat-Media” coverup.


12 posted on 08/10/2012 5:45:56 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: TomGuy

[I detest product shrinkage. Just raise the price. I would rather pay more for products I use than get less for the same price.]

Me too. It is so dumb for them to do it. That is what they want to do with soda...20 ounces instead of 32....just raise the dang price of the 32 ounce. Heck he get rapped on fountain drinks anyway but I want to buy a drink that will be adequate for me...not a drink that I have to buy two and figure out where to put the dang thing especially on a long trip.


13 posted on 08/10/2012 5:51:26 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Obama and minions busily scream, holler and point - “LOOK OVER THERE INSTEAD OF OVER HERE!!” - in order to divert the attention of the gullible away from the REAL PROBLEMS Obama’s created since he’s been in office. - Dear God! Please deliver us from this horror!!


14 posted on 08/10/2012 5:57:00 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Romney is running a terrible campaign at this point. Good news...there's still time to right the ship...but it's running out.

This is why I supported Gingrich. Can you imagine Newt in this situation? He'd be hammering away at the phony in the White House.

When is someone in the GOP going to bring up Rezko? Or Obama’s strange lack of credentials? Where are his records?

Are these people incompetent?

15 posted on 08/10/2012 6:03:02 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: G Larry

“But, don’t overlook the Dems and Eviro-whackos KILLING of some of the most fertile farmland in America”

EPA has got to go. We are Burning food for god sake.


16 posted on 08/10/2012 6:13:52 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Food is free, didn't you know that? Obamas peeps don't have to pay for prime rib, you buy it for them.

Why should they care what you pay.

17 posted on 08/10/2012 6:13:52 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: G Larry

You make some very good points but I must tell you about the liberal I met at the meat counter recently. He walked up beside me, looked at the price of a few steaks and said “are they feeding the cows gold now?”, then he said “I’ll tell you why these prices are so high, it’s deregulation!” Last I saw of him he was still looking at the steaks and talking on his cell, probably calling Obama about regulating cows. True story!


18 posted on 08/10/2012 6:18:26 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Wait until HR2751 (FDA food Takeover Bill) is fully implemented.

And wait until the drought in the midwest is over and they start rebuilding cattle herds. Cattle prices recently dropped because of another herd sell off because of drought.

You haven’t seen anything yet.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 6:19:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

We are retired Military and the Navy Commissary...and their prices are on par or slightly higher than Kroger’s which is the large food store for our area. Only difference is instead of a 9.75% sales tax, there is a 5% restock fee for the Commissary. BUT unlike Kroger’s which doubles my coupons up to .60, the Commissary takes them at face value. With Kroger’s if I spend a $100 a month I get 10 cents off on gas to boot and that goes up by 10 cents for every $100 I spend. I shop Kroger’s 95% of the time. Commissary has better quality meat.

Exchange prices are geared to to Top Brass’s pockets, not the common enlisted persons. $200 for a stinking Vera cloth wallet, made in china for a $1.


20 posted on 08/10/2012 6:23:49 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: hadaclueonce
Inflation rate does not count food or fuel. I say BS!

Both the total inflation rate and the "core" rate without food or fuel are calculated and published monthly. What is important that month is decided by the MSM, but both numbers are available.

21 posted on 08/10/2012 6:28:22 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: MrPiper

Don’t get me started on that. I was in the checkout line and this girl in front of me whipped out a Georgia Peach card or whatever in the he!! it is called and paid for her food like it was nothing. I counted out change and dollar bills for mine. The country givng free American paid-for benefits to illegals is criminal at the very least. And did GWB overlook the illegal immigration issue as a courtesy to his brother and sister-in-law? Doesn’t he have a mexican SIL?

‘Give me your tired, your poor, your felonious huddled masses, yearning to live free at the expense of exhausted American taxpayers tired of living below their station so others who don’t belong here can live in the lap of luxury.’

spits...


22 posted on 08/10/2012 6:36:34 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
.... this girl in front of me whipped out a Georgia Peach card or whatever in the he!! it is called and paid for her food like it was nothing. I counted out change and dollar bills for mine.

The damned government is insistent upon trying to make these deadbeats feel good about themselves. They won't dare put proper purchasing guidelines in place so that they must shop frugally.

I want to see a special aisle at the store for food stamp patrons. All generic items and no "high end" products.

23 posted on 08/10/2012 6:41:46 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
I fully believe Romney would win an additional 10 to 20 percent of the vote if he would stand outside grocery stores with a jar of peanut butter, a pound of fish and three tomatoes (or arugula :-!), leaving a visible price tag on each. Simply ask regular, everyday housewives how they feed their family with prices so high. What are they having to do without to put food on the table?

Talk about "connecting to regular folks"! That would do it!

24 posted on 08/10/2012 6:43:26 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: radioone

stories of homeless is a favored tactic of the leftists when they are out of power


25 posted on 08/10/2012 6:47:18 AM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Why do they get luxury food items? Why don’t they get flour, rice, sugar, coffee and make their own dadgum food?

It is not like they have to work around a job or anything.

Surely they can get cooking lessons on that free cable tv we are paying for.

Or call someone to get cooking tips on that free cellphone we are paying for.

And cook in that kitchen we are paying for compliments of Section 8 housing.

Using all that charity money being extorted from taxpayers to pay for unfettered breeding of a generation of illegitimate spawn.


26 posted on 08/10/2012 7:33:26 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

I stopped going to Food for Less here because every single time I went in I wound up behind some Mexican chick with at least 4 kids using WIC. WIC takes at least 4 times longer to process than a regular order.
By the time I would get to the register I would be fuming and would tell the cashier....you need a special line for those people. I just quit going.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 7:39:15 AM PDT by sheana
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To: TomGuy

Precious Kitties! And good point!


28 posted on 08/10/2012 7:44:05 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: sheana
WIC takes at least 4 times longer to process than a regular order. By the time I would get to the register I would be fuming and would tell the cashier....you need a special line for those people.

Heaven forbid you make them feel like less than fully entitled citizens! I found out this week I have to change doctors after 6 years. He doesn't take the new insurance my company had to go to when Blue Cross went up 80% in the two years since Obamacare passed. I asked him if he took Medicaid patients. Yes, he does.

So, I'm stuck with a less-than-perfect insurance policy that costs 45% more than I paid for a high-end policy 2 years ago and it doesn't allow me to see my old doctors.

I pay for mine and get crap, they get it free and get high-end! Aaaaargh!

29 posted on 08/10/2012 7:53:09 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: panaxanax

“I never could figure that one out either. I wonder what the REAL inflation rate would be if they were counted in?”

Oh, 13, 14, 15 percent.

Just look back at the Carter years...

In all fairness, it was right after the first Arab Oil Embargo (with the resulting zoom-up of fuel prices) that we saw inflation begin to take off. The West could have stopped this at once, by threat of military invasion of the Arab nations to “turn the spigots back on”. But it backed away, taught the Muslims that we could be rolled, and the rest is history...


30 posted on 08/10/2012 9:09:42 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
So, I'm stuck with a less-than-perfect insurance policy that costs 45% more than I paid for a high-end policy 2 years ago and it doesn't allow me to see my old doctors.

Just don't get sick and expect to see those new doctors anytime soon. When I call to make an appointment, they typically say there is an opening in three weeks. I tell them that I'll either be better or dead by then. And you know what? They really don't freaking care.

31 posted on 08/10/2012 9:40:37 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Just a clue for the writer. They better be careful saying that only woman shop for food and would be concerned with higher food prices.
In 1955 that would be a good way to focus. But in 2012; men and woman both buy food!
32 posted on 08/10/2012 9:44:31 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: pepperdog

My take on the lib’s statement is that he believes “PRICE CONTROLS” are the answer.

THAT is the “regulation” he wants in place.

Obama would be happy to tell the butcher what he’s allowed to charge for a steak.....
Oh...and don’t worry about the costs to the butcher, as those costs will be capped by gov’t also...
Woe be to anyone making more than minimum wage along the way!


33 posted on 08/10/2012 9:49:34 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
... We keep being told that the inflation rate doesn't include food or fuel and we're expected to be good little children, go back to our corner and quit noticing the cost of stuff! ...

Rather ironic that the Fed uses core inflation to measure the effectiveness of it's monetary policy.
34 posted on 08/10/2012 9:50:04 AM PDT by khelus
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To: ScottinVA

“Romney needs to fire that worthless, feckless excuse of a campaign director RIGHT NOW! That is, if he’s really interested in having even the dimmest flicker of hope of winning in November. “

“Romney needs to fire that worthless, feckless excuse of a campaign director RIGHT NOW! That is, if he’s really interested in having even the dimmest flicker of hope of winning in November. “

I thought your quote needed repeated repeating!!!!


35 posted on 08/10/2012 9:52:44 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: panaxanax; hadaclueonce; All
RE: “Inflation rate does not count food or fuel.” ____________________________ I never could figure that one out either. I wonder what the REAL inflation rate would be if they were counted in?

The blue line on the graph represents inflation as measured when all the 'improvements' that suppress inflation are removed:


36 posted on 08/10/2012 10:06:54 AM PDT by khelus
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To: khelus

Thanks, big Gov sweeping it under the rug.


37 posted on 08/10/2012 11:15:41 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Thus the urgency to get as many folks on food stamps as possible.

Republicans want to take your food stamps away.


38 posted on 08/10/2012 3:01:40 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: khelus

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts


39 posted on 08/10/2012 3:10:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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40 posted on 08/11/2012 2:59:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks REPANDPROUDOFIT.


41 posted on 08/11/2012 2:59:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I am serous about this. Why aren't we hearing an outcry about food prices? We hear reports on every 2-cent-change in gas prices. Why not report the doubling of the cost of, say, peanut butter?

Does anyone else remember a report that used to come out (monthly?) and every news channel would report it? It involved taking a grocery list, the same one every time, and purchasing those common household items at the same grocery stores each time. The report usually included a picture of register tapes comparing the totals for the current and present totals. So, what happened to that study and the report we got each month?

I suspect most people are like me - high prices have forced them to change the way they shop. My grocery shopping habits have changed so much, I can't accurately compare my costs now to what they were, say, five years ago. First, I used to make a list of what I wanted. I was careful, but not exceptionally so. If pot roast sounded good for dinner, that's what I got! Now, I make a minimum list before leaving home, checking ads and buying according to the weekly specials. I purchase a lot of generic brands and still am astounded at the price compared to five years ago! I use coupons to get the prices down.

So, even though I'm much thriftier now than I used to be, I would bet my grocery bill has DOUBLED in the last five years. Anyone out there that holds on to all receipts? Can you give us some insight here?

And, where is that "grocery cart" report that we used to get monthly? Why is there a media "blockade" on reporting our outrage at the grocery check out? Why aren't local and national news teams posted outside our neighborhood food marts asking regular people how they feel about the price of food? Heck, all they need is a display table set up with 3 or 4 items and the prices for each item in 2005 and 2012. For example: 3 tomatoes, 1 can Campbell's Soup, 1 pound fish (or, pot roast!) and a jar of peanut butter. You get the idea!

42 posted on 08/13/2012 3:09:32 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: SunkenCiv
I am serous about this. Why aren't we hearing an outcry about food prices? We hear reports on every 2-cent-change in gas prices. Why not report the doubling of the cost of, say, peanut butter?

Does anyone else remember a report that used to come out (monthly?) and every news channel would report it? It involved taking a grocery list, the same one every time, and purchasing those common household items at the same grocery stores each time. The report usually included a picture of register tapes comparing the totals for the current and present totals. So, what happened to that study and the report we got each month?

I suspect most people are like me - high prices have forced them to change the way they shop. My grocery shopping habits have changed so much, I can't accurately compare my costs now to what they were, say, five years ago. First, I used to make a list of what I wanted. I was careful, but not exceptionally so. If pot roast sounded good for dinner, that's what I got! Now, I make a minimum list before leaving home, checking ads and buying according to the weekly specials. I purchase a lot of generic brands and still am astounded at the price compared to five years ago! I use coupons to get the prices down.

So, even though I'm much thriftier now than I used to be, I would bet my grocery bill has DOUBLED in the last five years. Anyone out there that holds on to all receipts? Can you give us some insight here?

And, where is that "grocery cart" report that we used to get monthly? Why is there a media "blockade" on reporting our outrage at the grocery check out? Why aren't local and national news teams posted outside our neighborhood food marts asking regular people how they feel about the price of food? Heck, all they need is a display table set up with 3 or 4 items and the prices for each item in 2005 and 2012. For example: 3 tomatoes, 1 can Campbell's Soup, 1 pound fish (or, pot roast!) and a jar of peanut butter. You get the idea!

43 posted on 08/13/2012 3:12:24 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

BTTT


44 posted on 08/13/2012 3:15:18 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

George Snuffleupagus had the body count every Sunday until Zero won the election. Partisan media shills will keep doing this until they’re no longer in a position to do so.


45 posted on 08/13/2012 4:36:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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