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Pastor prosecuted for helping girl escape court-imposed lesbian ‘mother’ (Amish-not kidding!)
LSN ^ | 8/10/2012 | Matthew Cullinan Hoffman

Posted on 08/10/2012 7:54:00 PM PDT by Morgana

August 10, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) - Federal prosecutors are presenting their case in a trial against a Mennonite pastor who is accused of helping a single motherescape from the United States with her daughter to evade court-ordered visits with a lesbian whom the court declared to be the girl’s second “mother.”

Ex-lesbian Lisa Miller fled the country after her efforts failed to keep former “civil union” partner Janet Jenkins from having access to her child, Isabella. Jenkins never adopted Isabella and has no biological relationship with the girl, who exhibited signs of emotional trauma following forced visits with Jenkins, according to experts who observed her.

Pastor Kenneth Miller’s attorney, Joshua Autry, is arguing that Lisa Miller (who is not related to Kenneth Miller) had full parental rights at the time the pastor transported her to the Canadian border, and that he was not aware of interfering with any court orders, according to reports by the Associated Press and others.

If convicted, Kenneth Miller could receive up to three years in prison for “aiding and abetting an international parental kidnapping” under U.S. law.

Prosecutors are using e-mails obtained from Google and cell phone records from Verizon Wireless to demonstrate the movements of Lisa Miller and her daughter in 2009, when they say Miller fled to Canada—and ultimately to Nicaragua—with the help of Kenneth Miller and other Mennonites associated with him.

At least two Mennonites who helped in the escape have decided to turn state’s evidence in the trial, testifying against Kenneth Miller, who has not cooperated with the prosecution.

Canadian pastor Ervin Horst has already testified for the prosecution, stating that he drove Lisa and Isabella to the Toronto airport from the Canadian border at Niagra Falls at the behest of Kenneth Miller.

Pastor Timothy “Timo” Miller (also unrelated to Lisa Miller), who also allegedly helped Lisa and Isabella upon their arrival in Nicaragua, has also reportedly agreed to testify in an apparent deal to avoid his own prosecution. A website run by supporters of Timothy Miller, which raised thousands of dollars for his defense, claims the dropping of charges against him is was a “miraculous” event.

According to Kenneth Miller’s Mennonite supporters, the pastor regards homosexual “marriage” as a symptom of the general abandonment of Christian marriage, which “is to be a life-long relationship between one man and one woman.”

While he opposes homosexual “marriage,” he does not see it as the greatest threat to the institution, instead holding that “the greatest threat is a Christianity that has marginalized and compromised Jesus’ teaching on marriage. The teaching of Jesus as understood by the Church for the first 300 years of its history allowed for divorce or separation in rare cases, but remarriage was viewed as adultery.”

He prescribes a “radical repentance within Christianity” as the solution to the problem.

Miller’s supporters explain that “as a follower of Jesus, Ken could not ignore” Lisa Miller’s plea for help to escape Jenkins.

“Ken supported Lisa’s desire to remove herself and Isabella from former relationships which were not in accord with Jesus’ standard. However, he felt only love and compassion for Lisa’s former partner and others involved,” they add.

Related links:

Website supporting Pastor Kenneth Miller: MillerCase.org.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: amish; cultureofcorruption; homosexualagenda; judicialactivism; lesbian; lesbianadoption; mother; samesexadoption

1 posted on 08/10/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

homosexuals should neverhave got their special rights like civil unions let alone marriage or don’t ask in the first place.

The ignorant and stupid on our side wanted to appease them because as they usually say”I know a couple and they are nice” friggin idiots, so when did we base special rights based on fecal diseased sex in the constitution?


2 posted on 08/10/2012 7:57:41 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Morgana

This is one of the most INSANE things I’ve ever read.


3 posted on 08/10/2012 7:59:58 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: manc; Chode

About now one has to wonder if the mother in this story is sorry, and wonders why she ever decided to go lesbian. The sins of her past seem to want to follow her to the grave, and hurt everyone around her in the process.


4 posted on 08/10/2012 8:03:00 PM PDT by Morgana (-----------> Eat at Chick-Fil-A <-----------)
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To: Morgana

ALLES IN ORDNUNG, UNTERMENSCHEN! !

Marsupial Magistrates can be such pricks about disobedience amongst the serfs.


5 posted on 08/10/2012 8:03:20 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Morgana

would like to see more ex homosexuals come out in public, I know it will be hard to do that because of the homostapo but if more did then it might wake one or two up in this country.

I wish most of talk radio would also wake the hell up and the GOP would mention this too, .

I wish this woman all the best


6 posted on 08/10/2012 8:05:52 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Morgana

7 posted on 08/10/2012 8:06:46 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Morgana
delenda est...
8 posted on 08/10/2012 8:14:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Morgana

Your tax dollars at work. With all the people they have involved this will cost tens of millions.


9 posted on 08/10/2012 8:15:54 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Morgana

This pastor’s take on remarriage is exactly mine. Oh, and I agree with the rest, as well.

May God protect him.


10 posted on 08/10/2012 8:20:12 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Morgana
the girl, who exhibited signs of emotional trauma following forced visits with Jenkins

This defies belief. No one cares about the welfare of the child?????

11 posted on 08/10/2012 8:31:40 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Realize that the left, at the behest of their “father”, is forcing homosexuality on our society

BECAUSE

it is an abomination to God.

They don’t have any special compassion for the homos,
it’s just that God views it as an abomination, so in order to shake their fist at Him, they’re forcing it on the rest of us.


12 posted on 08/10/2012 8:36:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: GladesGuru

Unless its approved disobedience like the occupiers.


13 posted on 08/10/2012 8:45:32 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MrB

The rest of us that is unless you are Muslim.


14 posted on 08/10/2012 8:50:08 PM PDT by Morgana (-----------> Eat at Chick-Fil-A <-----------)
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To: Morgana
So the underground railroad is back in business?
15 posted on 08/10/2012 8:53:45 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Morgana
So the underground railroad is back in business?
16 posted on 08/10/2012 8:53:45 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Morgana
So the underground railroad is back in business?
17 posted on 08/10/2012 8:53:50 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: MrB
They don’t have any special compassion for the homos,

it’s just that God views it as an abomination, so in order to shake their fist at Him, they’re forcing it on the rest of us.

Ding Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner!

18 posted on 08/10/2012 9:06:42 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Morgana

Why is there even a case? Janet Jenkins had not adopted the child, is obviously not the biological father, and split from the girls biological mother.

If I had a child, married a man not her father, and then we divorced, he would have no claim to my child. So why does this Lesbian get special treatment?


19 posted on 08/10/2012 9:49:09 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

IIRC, Lisa Miller had the baby when she and Jenkins were together, as agreed between them.

So it would be more like, a woman and a sterile man in a relationship decide to that the woman should have a baby via artificial insemination, and then she leaves the relationship, without the man ever having established a formal legal relationship with the child.

There was a case in NJ where a man turned out not to be the biological father of a child he had thought was his, but decided to fight for custody anyway, and won.


20 posted on 08/10/2012 10:24:32 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Shadowstrike

It is insane because Homosexual acts are INSANE and irrational. It is a perversion and a learned lifestyle by being abused when a child.

Any promotion of homosexuality is a promotion of child abuse—Sodomy is always a Vice-—and people should NEVER support or give “tolerance” to such evil, dysfunctional use of the body.

It is like supporting your friend doing Meth-—only worse, because it hits at the very dignity and worth of the human body-—and defiles it like only Satan can.


21 posted on 08/10/2012 10:34:24 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: ConservativeMind
This pastor’s take on remarriage is exactly mine. Oh, and I agree with the rest, as well.

May God protect him.

My thoughts also. I have always said, since I was old enough to have a thought about it, that if I could not get along with my wife, I would live on one coast and she could live on the other. My dear wife and I have been together for thirty-eight years so far and we are still under the same roof.

My oldest brother would like to end his third marriage and my sister is in her fifth marriage. Thank God she told me a fer weeks ago that they are getting along a lot better now than they have in several years. Maybe, as she approaches sixty-five she has finally decided to accept her circumstances.

22 posted on 08/10/2012 10:49:02 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Morgana
....to evade court-ordered visits with a lesbian whom the court declared to be the girl’s second “mother.”

Ex-lesbian Lisa Miller fled the country after her efforts failed to keep former “civil union” partner Janet Jenkins from having access to her child, Isabella. Jenkins never adopted Isabella and has no biological relationship with the girl, who exhibited signs of emotional trauma following forced visits with Jenkins, according to experts who observed her.

It was no longer just "court ordered" visits, the RAT bastard Vermont judge had also decreed that the rabid lesbian Jenkins had been awarded custody of the young girl Isabella Miller and Lisa Miller was ordered to turn over her own biological daughter Isabella, to this hate filled lesbian Jenkins. That was the last straw... and Lisa Miller fled with your young daughter. This is yet another example of the hatefulness of the homos & lesbians. They will molest, rape, savage, destroy anyone, including young children in order to advance their hate filled agenda. May God judge & destroy these evil people.

I feel sorry for the pastor who will likely be convicted & found guilty of this bogus trumped up charge. This is a political monkey trial that is taking place. May God be with this pastor & may God destroy those hate-mongers in the government who are also trying to destroy the pastor & Christianity in general.

God, help our nation. Please destroy those evil doers who are perpetuating this travesty.

23 posted on 08/10/2012 10:54:47 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: thecodont
According to Lisa Miller's testimony in the custody & court-ordered visits, her daughter Isabella was forced to bathe naked with the former lesbian partner Janet Jenkins. That is why Lisa Miller no longer complied with the court ordered visits. In a hissy fit, the judge then awarded CUSTODY of 7 yr old Isabella to the lesbian Janet Jenkins. That was the last straw for Lisa Miller and she fled the country with Isabella in order to protect her daughter. The judge and the child welfare services simply disregarded and ignored the sexual molestation and/or abuse that was taking place when Isabella was forced to "visit" Janet Jenkins. Plus Lisa Miller was forced by the Vermont judge that she had to drive from Virginia to Vermont to deliver her young daughter to her former partner. The reality is that Lisa became a born again Christian, and her former "partner" was outraged that Lisa would be teaching her daughter about Christian values & morals, including against lesbian relations.

We need to pray like never before, for Lisa Miller and her daughter, and also for the pastor that is being persecuted for helping Lisa Miller & her daughter. I am outraged over this. I simply cannot fathom why God would allow Lisa, her daughter Isabella and the pastor to be persecuted like this. God is the only one who can intervene in this travesty. I pray that he will destroy & wipe out the federal prosecutors, the Vermont AND Virginia judges who aided & abetted these atrocious rulings, and especially that he would destroy the rabid hate monger Janet Jenkins.

24 posted on 08/10/2012 11:14:29 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: heartwood

What about the biological father in the NJ case?

Also, I have an adopted daughter. My husband and I jumped through hoops, filled out tons of paperwork, had to spend money paying fees and filing forms, we both had to do this to legally become my daughter’s parents. I couldn’t have just done it myself and said “oh yeah, your her dad”. It doesn’t work that way. If I had adopted on my own, it would have been a single parent adoption.


25 posted on 08/10/2012 11:19:53 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: savagesusie

Everything you said, it’s the truth.

I just find myself becoming more and more like my Grandparents, walking around shaking my head because what I’m seeing and hearing just about boggles the mind.

Hopefully the Lord will come soon, and straighten everybody out. At least I pray that He will...soon.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 12:23:18 AM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Morgana

I blame us, the collective we the people. We created a world where marriage and family are simply words in a government contract, where two men and two women can marry with the blessing of law, should we be surprised at stories like this?


27 posted on 08/11/2012 1:12:37 AM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Morgana

Interesting story.

But, as a matter of accuracy, Mennonites are not Amish.


28 posted on 08/11/2012 2:49:55 AM PDT by mcswan
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To: Morgana

Interesting story.

But, as a matter of accuracy, Mennonites are not Amish.


29 posted on 08/11/2012 2:49:55 AM PDT by mcswan
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To: mcswan
But, as a matter of accuracy, Mennonites are not Amish.

More accurately yet, not all Mennonites are Amish.

The Amish are most accurately described as extremist Mennonites.

30 posted on 08/11/2012 3:19:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Morgana
Pastor Kenneth Miller’s attorney, Joshua Autry, is arguing that Lisa Miller (who is not related to Kenneth Miller) had full parental rights at the time the pastor transported her to the Canadian border, and that he was not aware of interfering with any court orders

Not aware of the evidence against him, but this strains credulity way past the breaking point.

I believe the case should have been based on an appeal to the jury that the pastor was obeying a higher Law and therefore should be acquitted.

Depending on the composition of the jury a mistrial might be possible. Or at least an honorable conviction and publicity for a good cause.

An acquittal based on the theory that he didn't know they were fleeing the country is pretty difficult to imagine. Even without electronic evidence.

31 posted on 08/11/2012 3:28:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Morgana

Muslims want to exterminate Christians, too, so the left thinks they’re OK.

Actually, coddling Muslims, with their even more vehement “anti-gay” beliefs, is simply proof that this is an anti-Christian movement, not a “pro-gay” movement.


32 posted on 08/11/2012 6:41:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Morgana
About now one has to wonder if the mother in this story is sorry, and wonders why she ever decided to go lesbian.

The mass media insists that if you are "bi-curious" you should "experiment", then once that hurdle has been crossed, homosexuals insist there is no such thing as a bi-sexual, that you must give yourself over completely to homosexuality.

When women like Anne Heche leave lesbian relationship, they are considered outcasts and "in denial about their sexuality".

The homosexuals think that only homosexuals are "confused" about relationships and must be "counseled" into their company. Anyone who tries to counsel a person into heterosexual relationships is considered "evil" and "a quack".

They don't have peoples' best interests at heart. They just want more numbers and more play things.

33 posted on 08/11/2012 10:06:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Mennonite and Amish have common roots, each is a variation of Anabaptist, and Christian. I don’t know how productive it is to make other comparisons.


34 posted on 08/11/2012 2:28:54 PM PDT by mcswan
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