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Again our ticket is upside down (Vanity reaction)
Heart of darkness | Today in infamy | Disgusted me

Posted on 08/11/2012 10:59:31 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Once again the ticket is upside-down as the GOP-e throws us a bone with a true blue Conservative running second under the thumb of a liberal RINO. McLame formula again.

Is this the template for the next 20 GOP-e nominees? Run a turd and coat it in sugar? I hate the GOP-e. I hate them all the more because they know I have to hold my nose this year and vote ABO, which painfully is Romney this year. Puke.


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KEYWORDS: 2012veep; betrayed; conservatives; marginalized; shafted
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Agree, we did not pic this candidate. Not possible under the current primary system.

For the voters to have true control,all the primaries need to be on the same day, just like the national election.

Many never had a chance to vote for their candidate because he was run off the ticket before their state voted. The established GOP uses this piecemeal voting to pimp their candidate and vilify all others. And the media is overjoyed to go along with the scam.

As mentioned, Virginia was handed to Romney by the “rules committee”.


41 posted on 08/11/2012 11:49:43 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Bitch, bitch, bitch. Shut up and defeat Obama.


42 posted on 08/11/2012 11:50:55 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Doc Savage

You’re right of course, but there just aren’t enough sane people in America to make Conservatives a majority. Wish it wan’t so.

I would beg to differ. I don’t think the problem is with a Republican electorate that fails to nominate conservatives. The problem is with a GOP establishment that has bought into the New World Order and sees the danger to themselves in running Conservatives for us to vote for.

The GOP-e is not conservative, period. Look at Boner and McConnell and the GOP leadership for the past 20 years. They are go along, get along, country club gentlemen in concert with UN ideals, not in opposition to them. They don’t want conservatives.

The perfect example is when Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said, “We don’t want a lot of Jim Demint disciples”. Jim Demint is a solid conservative.

Lott is typical of the country club GOP leadership we have had for decades. They don’t want conservatives screwing up their NWO plans for business and corporate profit. They don’t want us.

Conservatives are to the GOP as blacks are to the Donkeys. Both are taken for granted because they know most of us won’t cross over to vote. So they ignore us and throw us a skinny bone every 3 years and 11 months.


43 posted on 08/11/2012 11:51:16 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Marie

Great post and excellent point!

Yet, on this forum, we still see the pouting and howling because their man/lady did not win.

Well..they did not do a good enough job of pushing that candidate. They should have got into the inside of the campaign and made sure he/she won. Not on Free Republic, but inside the campaign.

So we have this..and since virtually nearly every single one of them say they are Reagan conservatives and all that, then maybe they better heed the advice of Ronald Reagan. Get behind the candidate and get him/her elected even if you do not like him/her. Take it a little at a time, and pretty soon you’ll have the whole thing.


44 posted on 08/11/2012 11:53:06 AM PDT by crz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I was certain in my heart Palin would run. She deeply disappointed me when she chickened out and quit. Then again, maybe she is just smart enough to know that the GOP-e was going to attack and marginalize her as they did to Bachmann and Cain.

All I know is I wanted her for president, not this idiot Masshole liberal we had shoved down our throats.


45 posted on 08/11/2012 11:54:14 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

No one made anyone vote for Obama and no one made anyone vote for Romney. Were Democrat voters aware of Hillary Clinton and her platform? Were you aware that Bachmann, Cain, Paul, Santorum, Gingrich, Huntsman, and Perry sought the nomination and what their platforms were? I thought so. Keep telling yourself whatever stories make you feel good.


46 posted on 08/11/2012 11:55:45 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: comebacknewt

I hate Mittens and agree with Soros that whether it is Obama or Mittens, there will be no real difference. However, I fail to see how Ryan, if he comes out swinging, will be a negative. If anything, it helps shore up the sheeple “conservatives” and will cover Mittens as he goes further left in the general. You can count on that. The RomneyCare stuff over the past week or so was a strategic turn. Ryan will help protect his flank from conservative criticism, because conservatives like shiny objects. He can go as far left as he wants and will probably be okay. Depends if he overreaches or not. All in all, this was, unfortunately, a good choice for Mitt Romney. I consider his chances of winning to be better. Which, to my point of view, guarantees GOPe control for the next 4 or 8 years, followed up with the libs. We’ve lost big.


47 posted on 08/11/2012 12:02:11 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Marie

Turn out was above the average in those states where conservative candidates won, and it was below the average to almost nonexistant in those states where Romney won. That means that the lies and negative campaigning supressed the vote so the micro-minority of RINOs could get him the nomination.


48 posted on 08/11/2012 12:05:16 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
"The fix is in."

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I will fix them back.

The stakes are high and the world may burn but my vote is mine and mine alone to give and it will not go to someone who has a lifetime record of being my ideological enemy.

The GOP is the New Whig Party.

49 posted on 08/11/2012 12:06:44 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Live with or go join the jackals for Obama.


50 posted on 08/11/2012 12:07:26 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

No, I’m with you. ABO. Get rid of the anti-American Marxist destroying my nation.

I am just furious thinking how the Dems can get the most virulent anti-American leftists elected, but the stinking rotten GOP establishment won’t even run a solid conservative.

Is it any wonder the nation keeps charging to the left when the alternating presidents are “far left then middle then far left then middle.” Nobody is pushing the country back to the right.


51 posted on 08/11/2012 12:08:39 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Dear Disgusted,

The trick is not to pinch your nose too tightly or for too long and accept congratulations for your certain ABO vote.

Thanks for making a difficult decision that will help rid our homeland of the Kenyan usurper.

Best wishes.


52 posted on 08/11/2012 12:10:05 PM PDT by Postman (It's time again: US out of the UN. UN out of the US. Zero to follow. Make space in Kenya!)
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To: comebacknewt
The problem is the RATs will demagogue the Medicare issue into the ground and Ryan will cost Romney far more votes than he wins him.

Ryan will inform the seniors exactly what Obamacare is doing to Medicare (and the economy). The Annual enrollment period for Medicare starts in October and the Seniors will be horrified as to the changes (reduced coverage) and increased costs coming online January, 2013.

53 posted on 08/11/2012 12:17:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: kevao

It is no coincidence that 4 conservatives were splitting their votes while Romney was collecting all the RINO votes. I think this was by design from the GOP-e. I truly do.

The entire conservative field was weak. Bachmann was a non-starter. Cain had no political experience at all. Gingrich was damaged goods. Santorum was a no-name.

I believe all were encouraged to run by the GOP-e. I think it was the GOP-e strategy to dilute the impact of the Tea Party and conservatives so they could shove Romney down our throats.

They certainly didn’t encourage Palin to run, did they? They made it clearly implicit they would destroy her if she ran, so she chickened out or wised up (depends how you see it).

I completely agree with you that the conservative vote was diluted among the four very weak conservative candidates. I just don’t believe that it was coincidence, but rather by design from the GOP-e.

This is why Limbaugh and Hannity are worthless. They could have picked one candidate to praise and might have started a groundswell behind that candidate giving them momentum. But they never do. In the end, they always carry the water for the GOP-e, not conservatives.


54 posted on 08/11/2012 12:20:59 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Paul Ryan is not a Tea Party underling. He is the future President of the United States in training. I love this ticket. It is composed of learned gentleman, blessed with extraordinary families, who have seen how government can go amuck. Having seen it,tried it, changed it, made mistakes with it, gone back to it, they can thwart any attempt to steal it from us in the future. I have no doubt in my mind that Mitt Romney loves this country as much as I do. I have no doubt in my mind that his family is so wonderful that it is a walking broadside for Mormanism just as families once were for Catholics. Now we have both in men of great faith. I have no doubt in my mind that Paul Ryan will never stray from the conservative base he has created within himself. It’s his core and no one forced it on him. Coming from several generations of career military members, the only flaw I see is I wish there was a link to uniformed service. That said, I have no doubt these two distinguished achievers will support our troops with all the respect and care in the world. We’re on our way back home and God is by our side. I always loved our presidents...probably because they weren’t in my living room 24 hours a day. There was no Candy Crowley or idiots of her ilk. I want to feel great about our government and it’s leaders. This is one step. The conservatives we have already elected have to walk the line too. That, so predictable conservative judges can be put in place. Looooong journey back. Romney-Ryan 2012 is the beginning!


55 posted on 08/11/2012 12:26:37 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (All politics is local.)
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To: jwalsh07
Though I did not vote for Romney he got the most votes.

Yes and no. The primaries have not conferred upon Romney as much legitimacy as his hard-core supporters like to imagine.

In the early primaries that Romney won - which were not many - he won a plurality only because the rest of the vote was being divided up between any number of other candidates. Romney only started consistently getting outright majorities after pretty much everyone else had dropped out, or when he was only facing Ron Paul.

So, to say that Romney won the majority of the primaries is somewhat disingenuous, since half of them were won without having any opposition remaining in the race.

Even then, Romney didn't do so hot. Here in NC, for instance, he still only won ~70%, despite being the only GOP candidate left. Even with that, 30% still said "no way."

Romney won because 6-7 conservatives split the vote in the early primaries and handed it to him. But that still doesn't give him real legitimacy as a nominee.

56 posted on 08/11/2012 12:30:53 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
It is no coincidence that 4 conservatives were splitting their votes while Romney was collecting all the RINO votes. I think this was by design from the GOP-e. I truly do.

So you're saying those four conservative candidates were not really conservatives at all, but rather GOP-e agents? If so, then why do you bother referring to them as "conservatives"? And if not, then how is it they were willing accomplices in the GOP-e effort to dilute the conservative vote?

I know what I'm about to say is not nearly as titillating as your dastardly GOP-e conspiracy theory, but the simple fact is: We conservatives did this to ourselves by fielding too many candidates.

57 posted on 08/11/2012 12:35:24 PM PDT by kevao
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I think the fix is in. Ryan doesn’t win the presidency anytime soon.

After Romney’s one or two terms (probably one with the economy still struggling in 2016 - not sure), the Democrats will get their turn again and elect another unknown closet Marxist handpicked by Soros to finish the job.

Romney is just a rear-guard delaying action to me.

I’m not wishing death on Romney, but the only chance Ryan has is for Romney to die early in office, so we can have president Ryan and then maybe get him re-elected.

I respect your informative and well-reasoned posts. You have a great track record on your lucid thinking so I hate to discard your idea out of hand. So I won’t. But I have a hard time seeing it. I think Romney serves one term and goes down in 2016 to some no-name Marxist out of Soro’s wish list.

In a sane world, the US populace would be gun-shy to elect any Democrat after Obama’s reign of terror, but that assumes the electorate is dominated middle-class taxpayers. Now that we are at that tipping point where the electorate is more than half moochers, we can look forward to more and more Marxist presidents as time goes on as the masses continue to fall for the promise of government entitlements and perks and welfare.


58 posted on 08/11/2012 12:35:49 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Who cares what you like?


59 posted on 08/11/2012 12:36:03 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: crz

You are terribly naive if you think the voters control the election process, and not the power-brokers behind the scenes. You can watch any number of movies from the 1940s and 1950s to see that even the Hollywood types back then knew that the rich and powerful handlers get people elected to major office in the USA, not the voters.

We have some say, such as this year the economy is going to doom incumbents, including the incumbent president. So Romney is a lock to be president. But during the nominating process, not so, we voters had very little control. It is the behind-the-scenes power-brokers who tend to control major elections. They give us the illusion we are in control. We are not.


60 posted on 08/11/2012 12:40:46 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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