Skip to comments.C-17 lands at wrong airport....oops
Posted on 08/11/2012 5:29:16 PM PDT by Doogle
C-17 shows it's stuff after landing at wrong airport...(Peter Knight, Tampa)....."missed McDill by this much"..(holding up thumb and index)
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
it’s worth it for the chick with the anklet, which takes up about a third of the second video...after the plane has reached Jacksonville...
I like the part where he says “Oh My God”.
another view of departure....
plus he had a General passenger..*GRINS*..don’t know the “full” story behind the BS
The two runways are only a couple miles apart and run in pretty much the same direction.
The main difference is the one is 3 times longer.
It wasn’t the first time and it won’t be the last!
but i guess if they didn't give the length of the runway a second thought, well...
and what about the tower?
You would never think you could stop a plane that bit that fast.
You would never think you could stop a plane that bi(g) that fast.
and one’s rated for 200,000 lbs....
the AC weights 170,900 empty
I wonder what the makeup of the crew is?
Will there be a courts-martial?
At least a good @zz chewing.
Sounds like what happened to Comair Flight 191 out of Lexington back in August 2006. They were supposed to take off from runway 22, which was over 7,000-feet long, but instead tried to take off from runway 26, which was only 3,500 feet long. Forty-nine of the fifty people onboard died in the crash.
He screwed up for sure. I thought I read where he was coming back from the middle east so I’m sure fatigue was a factor.
I wouldn’t have been worry that much about stopping (tremendous reversing thrust) my concern would have been weight restrictions
Always double chec the ILS identifier.
Always double chec the ILS identifier.
...yeah but still don’t explain tower communications....at Tampa or McDill....
I watched a military 747 (NAECP) do a minimum distance landing. They stopped it in far less distance than this C17 just did.
There has to be a reason he put it down. Even if he lined up on the wrong runway he would have noticed it before touching down and would have aborted the landing.
Wonder if she needs a tailgunner?
MacDill runway is approximately 30 and 210.
Not kinda same direction!
When I was in the Air Force I was the Air Traffic Control Officer and one of the favorite jokes of our FAA guys went like this
"Control Center this is Flight 255 and we wish landing instruction" Flight 255 you are cleared to land on R 90.
At the same time Flight 644 calls, control this is flight 644 and request landing instructions. Control responds Flight 644 you are cleared to land on runway K 270. (The flights are cleared to the same runway from direct opposite direction)
The pilots scream "Control you've cleared us to land on the same runway from opposite directions!"
Y'all be careful now, Ya Hear!
I was stationed in Texas!
A few other comments:
Landing at the wrong airport (or on the wrong runway) happens a bit more often than is publicized, especially when the runways of the airports involved are oriented in the same direction. Peter O. Knights runway is 4-22, which means that its oriented approximately in the directions of 040 and 220 degrees. MacDills runway is 5-23, and the actual headings of the runways actually differ by 11 degrees.
Knight airport has no control tower. According to the story at http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/jul/20/18/huge-air-force-cargo-plane-lands-at-davis-islandsar-437276/, they would have been under the control of Tampa Intl Airport Approach Control until the aircraft reached the general vicinity of MacDill (the story said 10 miles), at which time Tampa would have handed them off to MacDill. Tampa likely would have been following the aircraft on radar til the handoff. They would have been operating on an instrument flight plan up til that point.
I would speculate that on being handed off to MacDill, the approach or local controller would have asked the pilot if he had the field in sight. If the pilot said yes, and traffic allowed, the controller would have the ability to cancel the aircrafts instrument flight plan and clear the aircraft to land on visual flight rules from the point of handoff, thereby terminating any requirement to guide and monitor the aircraft on radar. The controllers would not have had any way to know that the pilot had identified the wrong airport until the aircraft was close to landing at Knight. Even on radar, the approach would probably have looked like any other normal approach because the approach path to MacDill would have taken the aircraft over Peter Knight anyway. And I seriously doubt that it would have occurred to any of the controllers to watch the aircraft to ensure it was landing at the wrong airport, and theyd have probably been busy with other traffic (Im sure that will be part of the investigation).
The photo in the story shows the aircraft landing on Runway 22. MacDill is a few miles further to the southwest of Knight, so the pilot would have seen Knight first. Whether he made a mistake in landing there or he had a problem that warranted an immediate landing remains to be seen.
Both airports have over-water approaches to Knights Runway 22 and MacDills Runway 23. If the pilot hadnt ever landed at MacDill before, its quite possible that the similarities in the approaches may have lulled the pilot into mistaking Knight for MacDill. As mentioned above, fatigue could have been a factor. However, the pilot and copilot are ultimately responsible for acquainting themselves with all aspects of their flight, including their departure and arrival airports.
Norris comment about a Flight Evaluation Board is right on target. The pilot and copilot will both be put through an investigative wringer, and its quite possible that a board might OK them for further flight duty after getting retraining. However, itd obviously be a big black mark on their performance evals, and at the least their chances for promotion will be hurt badly.
Gee, I wonder what the liberals would have said if this happened four years ago...
Sweet! Into the wild blue yonder.
He didn’t land at the Tampa airport. The Tampa airport wouldn’t have any problem handling a plane of this size.
He landed at the Peter Knight airport. Its runway is a third of the size of MacDills.
Here’s a map of the two airports in question - http://goo.gl/maps/Dytzq
Thanks, cleared up some
Reminds me of the pilots trying to land in the fog. Pass after pass, they almost make it. Finally, they are able to put the plane on the ground.
Pilot: “Man, that was close. And making this harder, this is the shortest runway I’ve ever landed!”
Co Pilot: “Yeah, but look how wide it is too!”
..did a search for C-17....nothing came up
"what's he doing way up here"
I just love a good conspiracy theory...
The reason the pilot landed on the wrong runway was due to a magnetic pole shift, this is after all 2012 and supposedly just before Christmas something catastrophic will happen.
At first we will hear of strange cases like this, and the birds will migrate in different directions and in some really isolated cases people will claim an electric motor is running in the opposite direction.
This was from about 3 weeks ago. Thanks for bringing current news to our attention!
did a search, really....
plus it was posted under general/chat...not “news”
Damn, I miss the “Far Side”
You should see a loaded C 130 reverse the props on a short field landing. Dirt runways will make the entire aircraft disappear in a cloud of dust.
Y'all are assuming the pilot is a he. This is a C-17.
I Think he’s still around..Larson
It’s Peter O’Knight....not Knight
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