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Belle Starr, The Bandit Queen
KUHF ^ | August 11, 2012

Posted on 08/11/2012 7:17:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway

She was a real person who lived a life that was portrayed and exaggerated in film. Belle was a fast-living, hard-driving woman who became known as the "Bandit Queen."

When Belle Starr was shot to death in 1889, a newspaper declared her to be “a most desperate woman …” Her killer was never identified. Many suspected her son, whom Belle had recently beaten for mistreating her horse. Her unsolved murder was a fitting end to a life that was a whirlwind of violence, crime and legend.

She was born Myra Maybelle Shirley in 1848 and at the age of 16, moved to the north Texas town of Scyene. She kept company with notorious criminals including Jesse James. She married three times to three different outlaws and even spent time in prison for stealing horses.

Though she was ruthless to her enemies, she had a great capacity to make friends and she even mingled with the Dallas elite during the brief periods when her gunfights and thievery gave way to respectable living.

But it was only after her death, at age forty, that her legend grew. The National Police Gazette invented new stories about her and her embellished reputation continued to inspired popular novels and western films, long after her death.

Stories circulated depicting Belle as an elegantly dressed woman riding a black mare in a feathered black Sombrero and toting a Colt 45 pistol that she called “my baby.”

Instead of being remembered as a desperate criminal, she became a romantic symbol of the disappearing American West, known as: “Belle Starr, the Bandit Queen.”


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1 posted on 08/11/2012 7:17:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Myself, I'm a bit more partial to Ruby Starr (RIP)




2 posted on 08/11/2012 7:33:34 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

Wow, big hair!


3 posted on 08/11/2012 7:35:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You're screwed, losers. Steyn 2012!")
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To: shibumi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TcmbYVcwv4

The Bellamy Brothers, “Big Hair.”


4 posted on 08/11/2012 7:36:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You're screwed, losers. Steyn 2012!")
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To: nickcarraway

As a real Starr from Texas/Dallas, she was not related.

That said, as a kid was always asked if i was related to Belle or Bart.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:45 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: nickcarraway

The name Belle Starr brings back fond memories of a time I spent in Dallas at an electronics school when I was with Texas Instruments. Belle Starr was the name of a large country nightclub - long neck beers, dancing and beautiful women.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 7:43:28 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder if Bart Starr is her grandson?


7 posted on 08/11/2012 7:44:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder if Bart Starr is her grandson?


8 posted on 08/11/2012 7:44:36 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: nickcarraway

Belle Starr was quite interesting. My understanding is that during her prime she continually changed her place of residence depending on what “law” was pursuing her. My grandmother was named after her, having been born about 15 years after Belle’s death. She was reported to frequently use Indian territory (known as Oklahoma Territory in 1889, and Oklahoma in 1907) as a safe house. The legends still abound around the Robber’s Caves areas near Wilburton. She constantly moved among Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Indian Territory. The US Marshalls could not go into the sovereign “country” given to the Indians.

Yes, she was very interesting! Thank you for posting this article.

Gwjack


9 posted on 08/11/2012 8:01:41 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: nickcarraway
A very wimpy bio.

She moved to TX because her home town was burned to the ground during the Civil War.

Her father was a well-to-do inn keeper before the war. Her mother was a Hatfield.

Cole Younger was a childhood friend, and thought to be the father of one of her kids.

Her daughter turned to prostitution to bail out a brother, iirc, and became a successful proprietress of a number of brothels.

Perhaps Belle should have stuck to her roots, and gone into the hospitality biz?

10 posted on 08/11/2012 8:08:11 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: gwjack

It’s probably not relevant, but I have the equivalent of a baseball trading card that features Belle Starr; I guess they circulated near the end of the Civil War or perhaps shortly after.

And not to be picky (and when someone says that you KNOW they’re being picky — so just forgive me): anyway, prior to 1907 statehood, what is now Oklahoma was divided into 2 parts. The Eastern part of the state was known as Indian Territory; the western part of the state was known as Oklahoma Territory. They were two distinct legal entities. Can’t remember the name of the John Wayne movie, but it involves a young girl who insists on tagging along with him to find her father’s killer. Anyway, they go into Indian Territory to find the killer; I believe she encounters him in Ft Smith Arkansas, which is right on the border.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 8:51:08 PM PDT by SweetWilliamsMom
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To: SweetWilliamsMom

That was True Grit, and also starred Glen Campbell. Good movie.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 9:31:55 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: nickcarraway

Belle Starr was one butt-ugly woman.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 10:35:44 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: gwjack

Thanks for your posting about the separation between Indian Terr. and Oklahoma Terr.

It reminded me that one reason she frequented the Indian Terr. was because she was married Sam Bass, an Indian and outlaw, IIRC.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 11:02:04 PM PDT by octex
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To: jmacusa
She wasn't an outlaw...just banned from polite society for her looks:


15 posted on 08/11/2012 11:23:48 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: Mr Rogers

Which one was Belle?


16 posted on 08/11/2012 11:39:55 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: gwjack

There were some marshalls under Judge Parker out of Ft Smith that certainly went after the criminals in Indian Territory.


17 posted on 08/11/2012 11:49:48 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: jmacusa

almost all of the women were ugly by our standards back then.
Some were ok after a few beers but for the most part they looked like a mud fence.


18 posted on 08/12/2012 1:51:13 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: jmacusa

almost all of the women were ugly by our standards back then.
Some were ok after a few beers but for the most part they looked like a mud fence.


19 posted on 08/12/2012 1:51:27 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: nickcarraway

Great. Next I’ll probably read that Santa Anna, who led the Mexican troops at the Alamo, ended up in an office in New York City’s Staten Island where he ran a business selling tires made from chicle.


20 posted on 08/12/2012 2:00:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr Rogers

THAT’s younger than 40??


21 posted on 08/12/2012 2:01:32 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Yorlik803

In an age before the science of skin care and when make was actually called ‘’paint’’ plus bad diet, bad food, just about bad everything, those women of any real beauty tended to ‘’lose the bloom’’ early.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 10:51:16 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Wel, I think they used lead in their makeup, along with Mercury.
Add to that what you wrote and it wasnt a real healthy time for anybody.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 10:59:35 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: nickcarraway

bookBUMP


24 posted on 08/12/2012 11:45:09 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Nothing so vexes me as a Democrat above ground. Enforce the Bill of Rights.)
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