Skip to comments.HUMANS, NEANDERTHALS DID NOT HAVE BABIES
Posted on 08/17/2012 9:37:26 AM PDT by Pharmboy
Recent research strikes a blow to the theory that humans and Neanderthals interbred.
THE GIST Studies over the last two years suggest that Neanderthals vanished more than 30,000 years ago. This would mean that early humans and Neanderthals could not have interbred. enlarge
Over the last two years, several studies have suggested that Homo sapiens got it on with Neanderthals, an hominid who lived in parts of Europe, Central Asia and the Middle East for up to 300,000 years but vanished more than 30,000 years ago.
The evidence for this comes from fossil DNA, which shows that on average Eurasians and Asians share between one and four per cent of their DNA with Neanderthals, but Africans almost none.
But a new study by scientists at Britain's University of Cambridge says the shared DNA came from a shared ancestor, not from "hybridization" or reproduction between the two hominid species.
Common ancestor It begins with a common ancestors of Neanderthals and H. sapiens who lived around half a million years ago in parts of Africa and Europe.
Around 300,000 to 350,000 years ago, the European population and the African population of this hominid became separated.
Living in genetic isolation, the European range evolved bit by bit into Neanderthals, while the African range eventually became H. sapiens, which expanded in waves out of Africa from around 60,000 to 70,000 years ago.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.discovery.com ...
Joe Biden ?????
Brow ridge ping...
The older and hairier I get convinces me that there’s a neanderthal somewhere back in my family tree. I’m even starting to stoop like one!
Dude, like Homo Sapiens chicks are sooo stuck up, like they're better'n us or sumptin'.
If Human Beings (Homo Sapiens) and Neanderthals did not have babies, how did they reproduce and how are we still on this Earth? Can no one out there in editor land write a proper headline in the English language?
What pointy-headed lib-dem moron wrote that?
What pointy-headed lib-dem moron wrote that?
The Bible indicates man has only been around for about 6000 years. God may have created something like man way before the "recreation" but so far the proof isn't there IMO.
BTW, there is a weird mating between humans and other beings spoken of in the Bible and seems to indicate comes when a society becomes grossly perverted. The offspring were giants called Nephilim. There's evidence Goliath was one of them. I believe they will return in these last days.
This may be true, but the human mating with jackass connection has been proven beyond all doubt.
The offspring is called, “liberal”.
They were just close friends.
That whole cultural barrier could have well been breached, with alcohol.
I had a similiar thought. The headline would have benefited from an adverbial “together” at the end, but I knew what they meant.
"... several studies have suggested that Homo sapiens got it on with Neanderthals..."It's obviously true.
Naah! She said she just wanted to be friends.
if there’s a ‘common ancestor’, doesnt’ that mean that somewhere along the line SOMEbody mated?
I see that picture, and I immediately think of the quote from the Monty Python "Village Idiot" sketch, "Well I may be an idiot, but I'm no fool."
Neither did the new article cited have ANYTHING to do with when Neanderthal disappeared.
It was a reanalysis of DNA data that proposed that the population that left Africa shared a more recent common ancestor with the Neanderthal population than the populations that stayed behind in Africa.
While of interest, the finding is hardly conclusive; and the authors language says that via their model there was “less” interbreeding that went on - not that it didn’t happen at all.
That is why journalists should have an actual scientist edit their copy before they send it out - besides not really understanding the subject and having a sensationalist agenda - most are absolute idiots.
What?? Fossils of modern man(us) have been found that are 50-100,000 years old. No, not a missing link but people who developed agricultural skills starting around 50,000 years ago.
A hobbit and a red headed neanderthal lass?
The same ones who routinely write articles saying that animals “make love”.
Funny you should mention that.. started getting hair on my back (never realized I had any there until I had an itch and reached back to scratch it.. and there was patch.. probably been there for a decade, and I didn’t notice... checked the other side.. one there too :p)..
Wondering how much a wax job would cost here now.. hehe..
seems to indicate comes when a society becomes grossly perverted.
Then somewhere there’s got to be some giants running around!
Say that we have population A - this population gave rise to all human and all neanderthal populations.
Population A gave rise to population B and C and D and E and F. Populations B and C were closely related, interbred, and shared common ancestry with each other more than either does with D, E and F.
Population B leaves Africa and is the founding population that gave rise to Neanderthal.
Populations C, D, E, and F stay around Africa.
Later population C leaves Africa and is the founding population for all non-African humans. Population D, E and F stay in Africa.
Population C that gave rise to all non-African humans STARTED OUT more closely related to population B, and needed no interbreeding with population B to be more similar.
Population B dies out, leaving only populations C, D, E, and F - the founding populations of all modern human population groups.
The similarity of populations B and C could have come about because they started out more similar due to them sharing a more recent common ancestor. OR it could have come about because there was a bit of interbreeding between populations B and C. OR it could be a combination of both scenarios.
oh. so it was a rare ancestor;-)
Sure - no actual data supports Neanderthal looking like that - but if that is what floats your boat - go on with your bad self!
Good job with that...much better than my attempt.
ok..i suppose being erectus helped facilitate all that mating...
NEVER figured that one out...
30,000 year age difference. Now THAT’S what I call a Cougar!
As my grandma might have said: “Couldn’t hurt.”
“The cultural barrier was unbreachable. This is what a Neanderthal actually looked like: “
Looks like Moochelle when she’s mad.
i reckon it would depend upon how the erectus was...
Hmmm. Ever wonder how they communicated? Don't you find it puzzling that there is no recorded history or writings found older than 5000 years ago?
There's a lot of things that don't fit with "modern man" that old. As far as I know, it hasn't been validated by true scientific investigation (like Darwinism). The age and nature of these "fossils" if they turn out to actually be true fossils are questionable.
Yes, that claim is spurious, since they date Homo Sapiens remains to 100,000 years in the same areas that Neanderthals were living.
Then somewhere theres got to be some giants running around!
If they're not here already, they will be soon, I believe, for God's final judgement on the earth before His glorious return.
Is that a club you’re carrying, or are you just happy to see me?
They communicated orally and did pictures. There are intricate cave paintings which are 40,800 years old found in Spain. Just because man did not learn to write until fairly recently does not mean they were not man. We did not learn how to fly until the early part of the last century..does not mean we are not human because we were not flaying 5000 years ago. does it?
There was a house foundation found in England that is 11,500 years old.
So why are there chimps still swinging from vines, yet supposedly humans evolved (and evolved and evolved...)?
Humans share DNA with chimps (95%), but also share it with cats (90%) and fruit flies and even bananas (50%).
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