Posted on 08/17/2012 8:16:52 PM PDT by Kartographer
Don’t want to stockpile 1,000 pounds of dried rice and beans? Want something that taste a little better then MREs? Want something that you don’t have to worry about rotating out?
One of the main problems with stockpiling survival food preps, is that people sometimes stockpile what they do not normally eat. So the food stocks sit in a closet, expire, and have to be thrown out. In the long run its easier to stockpile what your family normally eats so rotation is handled in a natural manner.
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Add some dry rice and beans which are also cheap and easy to store you got a solid base to build your food preps on.
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IMHO, that's a mistake. Why throw out something that has potential value? I've read that undented canned food can last a decade or more. The expiration date is just a guess, there for legal reasons more than anything else.
If I'm wrong about this, I hope someone here on FR will correct me.
What about powdered milk, flour, and shortening, as well as cornbread mix?
Also, what about powdered eggs?
1980, basic training, USAF, I got served C-rations from the Korean war. Had Chesterfield(tm) cigarettes in it. I ate everything, smoked the cigarettes, and have survived to this day.
The butt floss they included almost killed me when I had to use it. That stuff is rough.
/johnny
You are correct the date is suggestive, especially for canned food. things like peanut butter even sealed will go rancid, especial if not kept cool.
The idea of the post is to show there are plenty of long term foods for your storage that are not expensive and readily available and eaten by all. I like the ranch style beans they they picture take a can of them (with Jalapenos) and mix it with a couple cups of cooked rice and you have some good eating.
I love having the powdered eggs for egg wash and baking. I use fresh hen-fruit for breakfasts.
/johnny
If the can is swollen though the only potential it has is possibly as a bio-weapon. ;-)
That's something that's gone the way of things like don't pour hot water on a frozen windshield.
Good advice in the '50s, but meaningless today.
/johnny
Well you are trying to convince the wrong guy me and the local Smith’s store had words over a can of bean with bacon soup. Let’s just say picture bean with bacon soup mixed with drier lent. ;-(
Yes you are mostly right J, but it only takes that one can....
When I was a junior high boy scout in California at Ft Ord in the early 70’s we got free C-Rats for our camping expeditions.
The scoutmaster would come around and confiscate the little 4-pack of cigarettes.
He didn’t get them all.
I think he's crazy, but it's his life.
People smoke crack, sniff paint, smoke meth for fun and profit they all eventually end up the same way, on the wrong side of the grass.
If a can is swollen, bury the whole damn thing deep or incinerate it.
It is much, much less common than when I was a kid.
/johnny
Unless it's wild rice, I'd go with quinoa/couscous
jars of Better Than Bullion brothes - chicken/beef. One small jar of this paste will give you gallons of soup broth.
Use that with dried soup vegetables - Bob's Red Mill - one bag will give you gallons of soup.
GREENS. (Green are just as vital as fruits for staying healthy) - spinach is the one vegetable that is more nutritious cooked than raw - and is PACKED with nutrition: High in Vit K - and all the regular vitamins; minerals include iron, magnesium, potassium, zinc, calcium etc -
VINEGER - raw (packed with minerals and good for gut health...to go on spinach.
I wouldn't worry too much about fruit juices - they are a lot of bulk and weight. Dried fruits is the way I'd go. You can't beat water for drinking. But if you don't have access to natural water - store SPRING water, NOT ‘purified’ water, which is filtered sewer water from large cities - and not everything is filtered out. Iodine - for water safety, if needed - and for cuts, scrapes
I love bean with bacon soup for lunch, but after opening that can it was almost a year before I could bring myself to eat it again.
He's wrong. Properly canned fruit cocktail can't ferment in an intact can because yeasty beasties die above 160F.
/johnny
Well, some of them got burned...
We thought we were really grown up then; how little we knew.
Seen this??
http://barry-julie.blogspot.com/2012/08/a-warning-from-airman-in-airforce-could.html
scroll down and read the stuff at the yellow warning sign...
It would truly would be SHTF to get me to eat spinach!
/johnny
I ran across a swollen can at Walmart a few months ago. Looked like it was ready to blow.
Story about the general officer that retired a few years ago shared his 60’s era Vietnam issued pound cake and peaches with his staff at his 2010 retirement ceremony 50 plus years later ..... They all were surprised it was great !
I store can goods on a rotational FIFO set of racks in a cool dark root cellar style storage room. Each can gets a sharpie pen DTG marked on it or a computer printed lable I make stuck on it. Oldest can goods in the rack are ranch style beans and they were 5 years old as oldest product I had on hand.
They are still good.
Soups, stews and chili, peanut butter, honey, canned juices and sauces add to,the dry storage of pintos, rice, cornmeal , and spices etc....
75% of our “pantry” is canned goods and the rest are dry goods and freeze dred . If power goes then first few weeks is beef, chicken, pork, fish and wild game harvested. Jerky manufacturing Inc per se as the freezers thaw that portion of food stores.
Agree on the C-rats. Shy of Lima beans and ham of course...:o)
Stay safe
When the SHTF I for one am not going to worry about partially hydrogenated oils in my peanut butter or trace amounts of mercury in the canned tuna.
I’ll buy what’s cheap and stack it deep. When I need it I’ll thank God for it.
To me it reminds me of the stuff I get when I use to wash out my lawnmower and I imagine to me they would taste about the same, but J I bet you could even make lawn clippings taste like ambrosia! ;-)
/johnny
Woulda been a bad day for a manager, had I seen it.
Very bad day. I can speak with the volume to be heard across a drill pad without raising my voice.
/johnny
Yoder’s sells some EXCELLENT canned bacon.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they stuck it back on the shelf after I left. I think it is so rare to find one that the stockers these days don’t even realize something is wrong with it.
If you have a bug-out bag, I’d recommend sticking a jar of peanut butter in it. It doesn’t take up a lot of space, doesn’t weigh too much, but is packed full of vitamins, calories, and fats that will be essential in the event of an unplanned (but hopefully prepared for) cross-country excursion.
For Roy Grant, wherever he may be now.
But do they have a gun on the label?
Not gonna happen.
The US doesn’t have a large enough army to cover 300 million people who would suddenly get a bit pissy over someone messing with their food.
It’ll start on one block and end terribly on the next...with extreme prejudice.
Fictional writing.
Sadly no, but its still good bacon!
I still get swollen cans, I have one right now, a can of Bumble Bee tuna of a batch I purchased in 2004.
Months ago it was a can of Ro-tel tomatoes that swelled on me, I get them occasionally.
“I like the ranch style beans they they picture take a can of them (with Jalapenos) and mix it with a couple cups of cooked rice and you have some good eating.”
Whoever wrote that didn’t include any rice with the beans so he had an incomplete protein. You are right to add the rice to have complete protein.
I have a few jars of peanut butter but it’s regular type and I don’t have many. I should get some Jif natural.
I haven’t stored a nutritional drink like Ensure. I think they have that without sugar also. Then, there is the nutritional drink Glucerna for diabetes with nutrients in it. I’ll have to do some research on Ensure and Glucerna to determine what to get, plus I don’t know their shelf life.
LOL.... Did a lot of planning with John Wayne bars and Cheese..... Timing timing timing.
Stay safe Marine.
That said, one of the best meals I ever had was at 0300 in a cold October. Cold spaghetti MRE, followed by a nap with a curb for a pillow, up to make coffee at 0430 (make CQ write it down to wake you up). 36 hour days are for young men.
/johnny
Well, I admit anytime I read one of these deals about the government going door-to-door doing or confiscating anything, my tin-foil warning light goes on hi-beam and blinks like crazy.
The logistics would be a nightmare, they don’t have the personel, there are not enough med centers in the whole country to deal with the resulting casualties.
But it can still be an indicator of the general tone of where governments head is at...
If you garden, try mache also called corn salad. It looks and tastes like fresh spinach but has 4 times the iron and vitamin C. It grows like a weed and doesn’t bolt (go to seed in hot weather as fast as spinach.
I like MREs, myself. Fresh ones (that being a relative term) are pricey, though.
It is rare. Much more rare than the 60s. You might want to shop somewhere that doesn't mistreat their canned goods.
/johnny
I read someplace that Tac Bac is produced by Yoders as a novelty item.
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