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Atlanta Symphony demands DIVERSITY!
Marietta Daily Journal ^ | August 19, 2012 | Editorial

Posted on 08/19/2012 3:01:46 PM PDT by BobNative

Discordant note...

(Excerpt) Read more at mdjonline.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: diversity

1 posted on 08/19/2012 3:01:49 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: BobNative

Pogo was right!


2 posted on 08/19/2012 3:07:58 PM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: BobNative

They don’t demand more “Diversity”, they demand less White people. If those choirs were all Black they wouldn’t say a word.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 3:09:31 PM PDT by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: BobNative

better to be born a half black, half American indian, female with a birth defect, and slight learning disability than a future Einstein white guy,.


4 posted on 08/19/2012 3:11:04 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: BobNative

Actual performance, of course, must be placed low on the list of priorities.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 3:12:13 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: DwFry

Not to be nitpicky, but it should read “fewer” White people.

On the other hand, your point is excellent and right on the money.


6 posted on 08/19/2012 3:16:07 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: BobNative

They used to put musicians behind screens to prevent bias in selection, so that the judges couldn’t decide based on gender, skin color or age.
Now we’re going back to the “bad old days”.


7 posted on 08/19/2012 3:16:25 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I have asked the MDJ to do a story on the diversity of the Orchestra.

I believe that it is mostly Caucasian and Asian. If that is so, the ASO probably demands performance over diversity.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 3:16:40 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: BobNative

I hate stuff like this. I was watching the Olympics marathon and all the good runner were from East Africa, how about we tie bricks to their shoes so that Chinese and Ukrainian runners can outrun them? You know, for diversity.

Diversity should mean that nobody is excluded or forbidden to participate based on race, religion etc. It should not mean a guaranteed place regardless of merit.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 3:21:29 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BobNative

Most symphony orchestras begger the whole world for money. And go bankrupt on a sneeze. And rely heavily on the good will of philanthropists. (usually white)

(No, Moochele and BeeHOe are NOT in that group. They are in the group that believes musicians, “didn’t get there by themselves” and so should spread the wealth by donating their talents to the public at large.)

Wonder if they worry about “diversity” amongst their “donors?”

Maybe someone should remind them that the “majority” of their deep pocket “donors” are NOT “minorities.”


10 posted on 08/19/2012 3:25:17 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: BobNative

“Animal Farm” is becoming a daily way of life in this f**ked up country. I’m seriously considering just walking away from it all....becoming an expat. I’m serious.


11 posted on 08/19/2012 3:27:44 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: BobNative

Not too many blacks among professional classical musicians. At least that’s been my observation as a long time patron of the Kansas City Symphony. The same goes for the audience. In our new performing center, there are two halls, so we sometimes have simultaneous events. When a black performing group is in town, the well heeled KC black society is there in droves, dressed to the nines pouring out of their limos. Very few wander over to the symphony side, however. Its not how they choose to spend their money.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 3:30:33 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: BobNative

But we have a genuine oxymoron here ==> Classical Music vs African Americans.


13 posted on 08/19/2012 3:30:51 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: BobNative
They can only have a top quality symphony if there are the proper mix of WASPs, Latinos, Asians, Africans, Native Americans and Australian Aborigines don't you know? Music be damned. We must have DIVERSITY!
14 posted on 08/19/2012 3:32:22 PM PDT by Tupelo (Sara Palin.............my write in vote for 2012)
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To: Joe Boucher

“better to be born a half black, half American indian, female with a birth defect, and slight learning disability than a future Einstein white guy,.”

You forget Gay, lez,bi or trans!


15 posted on 08/19/2012 3:32:47 PM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: RightOnline
I’m seriously considering just walking away from it all....becoming an expat.

I feel your pain. What alternatives have you considered?

16 posted on 08/19/2012 3:41:48 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: BobNative

Most symphony orchestras begger the whole world for money. And go bankrupt on a sneeze. And rely heavily on the good will of philanthropists. (usually white)

(No, Moochele and BeeHOe are NOT in that group. They are in the group that believes musicians, “didn’t get there by themselves” and so should spread the wealth by donating their talents to the public at large.)

Wonder if they worry about “diversity” amongst their “donors?”

Maybe someone should remind them that the “majority” of their deep pocket “donors” are NOT “minorities.”


17 posted on 08/19/2012 3:46:18 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

If I was a much younger guy, I’d go to Russia. I’ve noticed that there is much more respect for the church, much less tolerance for the weirdos, (queers and mudslimz included) and much more freedom from regulation and taxes. (Flat taxes really are a good thing.)

Now that’s hard for an old cold warrior to reckon with. The Soviet Union was once my dedicated enemy. But as time has gone by, we have become what they were, and they have become what we were.

I hope I’m making some sense here. If you flame me, I’ll likely not respond. Its after my bedtime now.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 3:53:12 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Diversity my butt! Back to the basics, back to Bach, back to Beethoven, back to Mozart! As the great Dr. Sowell has noted, over or under-representation is the norm in all fields of human endeavor. I don’t know why but Germans are over-represented in the greats of classical music. So be it. Our symphonies must never pander with mediocrity. The San Antonio Symphony had a Beethoven Festival earlier this year. I never thought I’d ever get to hear the mighty Ninth in a live perforamnce, let alone symphonies 1 thru 8, but listen I did. Sublime! The Conductor announced that the Ninth drew more paying customers than any performance in recent memory. I’m not surprised, it’s a cornerstone of Western Civilization. (There, I said it.) I even suggested that our Symphony perform the Ninth once a year ala the Japanese National Orchestra, but my suggestion fell on deaf ears. In any event, I will not die with a live performance of the Ninth on my bucket list. Its been stricken off. Listenening to those nine symphonies was a highlight of my life. I’ll remember it as long as I have a memory. Ol’ Ludwig is up there with the immortals; Shakespeare, Milton, and Michelangelo.


19 posted on 08/19/2012 4:01:34 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Why would I flame you? You made an interesting observation. Dasvidaniya. Get some sleep. :)


20 posted on 08/19/2012 4:04:03 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: donaldo

To wit. German composer, German Orchestra, German Conductor. Not very diverse, but great nonetheless! If this doesn’t move you, nothing will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0417pQz7iIk&feature=my_favorites&list=FLopB6L1DGumbDsuEVScbaeg


21 posted on 08/19/2012 4:04:52 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Thank you for your comments. In many ways many of us are like the Russians.

Many of us may be traced back to areas of modern Russia.


22 posted on 08/19/2012 4:06:08 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: donaldo

Russian composer, Russian Orchestra, Russian Conductor. You get my drift? Let’s not over-emphasize the diversity bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsTVF0Fu5_c&feature=BFa&list=FLopB6L1DGumbDsuEVScbaeg


23 posted on 08/19/2012 4:13:29 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

New Zealand, Uruguay...a few others. Still researching.


24 posted on 08/19/2012 4:14:24 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: RightOnline

Panama is a possibility.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 4:16:32 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: BobNative

A very distinct possibility, actually. Forgot Panama on my previous short list.


26 posted on 08/19/2012 4:20:43 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: donaldo

Now for a little diversity - French composer, German Orchestra, Greco-American Soprano. But still Western Civilization.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rjOrOt6wFw&feature=related


27 posted on 08/19/2012 4:21:42 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: donaldo

I see your Beethoven and raise you by 10,000 Japanese:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6s6YKlTpfw&feature=related


28 posted on 08/19/2012 4:30:11 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ransacked
But we have a genuine oxymoron here ==> Classical Music vs African Americans.

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2009/09/5-classical-music.html

Africans like classical music. I hire Ethiopian expats to solve engineering problems and they dig Mozart. I hire American blacks to play bass and unfortunately they dig white powder. (This is not a blanket statement - just my personal experience)

29 posted on 08/19/2012 4:32:21 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: vladimir998
I'll raise you a 130 member Welsh boys choir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5EbNpOi1o&feature=related

30 posted on 08/19/2012 4:34:05 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: mware

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5EbNpOi1o&feature=related


31 posted on 08/19/2012 4:34:36 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: BobNative

I mean...it’s Cobb County, what can you expect?

Makes you wonder though, how many future Democrats there were in that choir that are now seeing the light and leaning more and more conservative?

Diversity my butt — how freaking diverse is the ASO? Bet it’s all Asian and Caucausian.


32 posted on 08/19/2012 4:36:05 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

The lack of diversity of the ASO is astounding!

Go to their web site and look at the Leadership, Symphony and the Chorus.

Is it 99% white?


33 posted on 08/19/2012 4:42:14 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: vladimir998

Thanks, I haven’t seen this. Very moving. But how about this? BACK TO BACH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNXaJKdr7yk&feature=my_favorites&list=FLopB6L1DGumbDsuEVScbaeg


34 posted on 08/19/2012 4:58:52 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: BobNative

A little shoe polish, and problem solved

35 posted on 08/19/2012 5:10:27 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: BobNative

It will be interesting to see if my comment at the link is posted.


36 posted on 08/19/2012 5:13:31 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: donaldo; mware

And now, to completely cleanse your musical palates, the number one song in the world this moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0


37 posted on 08/19/2012 5:54:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: BobNative

Over at the Conservative Treehouse, they’ve counted from a picture of the ASO and found that there is one black guy, ONE, in the entire orchestra.


38 posted on 08/19/2012 6:14:04 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: jimmyo57

Yep,
Every corporation in America will line up to hire you to get the credits for being so inclusive.
This gub mint is pathetic.


39 posted on 08/20/2012 3:57:53 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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