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Regarding Connecticut&New Mexico Leaning Tossup.What Are The Explanations?

Posted on 08/20/2012 6:32:56 PM PDT by Ryan_Rubio_2016

Could Connecticut and New Mexico going from "Obama" to "Lean Obama" become a sign of things to come? What has happened in a blue New England state may hopefully be a new trend going into November. Maybe Connecticut turning purple is primarily due to the number of "Wall Street" residents living there and knowing what will happen to their fortunes or incomes if Obama is re-elected. Hopefully the trend will continue in September when New Jersey, Nevada and Minnesota turn purple giving Obama more states to worry about and less money and time to campaign in.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: connecticut; ct; illinois; minnesota; nevada; newjersey; newmexico; nm; obama

1 posted on 08/20/2012 6:33:00 PM PDT by Ryan_Rubio_2016
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

Connecticut has high taxes, increasing crime and a dwindling industrial base. The financial services industry is under assault, particularly the health insurance industry. If RINOs count, it’s turning purple.


2 posted on 08/20/2012 6:38:01 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

Alot of people who live in Connecticut work in Manhattan’s financial district.

Or maybe I should say USED to work there. Many people have lost their jobs on Wall Street and in the banking industry in NYC. Others who still have jobs are worried about losing them in a tough economic climate, which they know will only get worse in a second Obama term. Most are probably fed up with Obama’s demonization of the “rich.”


3 posted on 08/20/2012 6:41:10 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If people don't have to show an ID to vote, why do they have to show one to purchase a firearm?.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I live in Northern CT. This time in on people couldn’t stop talking about how great Obama was. Now it’s like Obama doesn’t exist or outright hatred of him.


4 posted on 08/20/2012 6:41:25 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ryan_Rubio_2016. And Illinois? Michigan? New York? The Obama Recession leads directly to the Obama Implosion — and Zero’s starting another shooting war (with Syria or Iran, or both) will wreck his prospects, even among the straight-party-ticket a-holes on the left. And if you hear one ranting and raving, remind them that they are PRO-WAR.


5 posted on 08/20/2012 6:42:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016
I was part of the Connecticut conservative movement in the 90’s. The state is full of conservative Roman Catholics who voted reliably Democrat. They were able to justify this behavior a number of ways but were never comfortable with the secular leftists in their party. When Obama took on the Catholic Church it was too much for many of them. If they have to choose between the Church and Obama, Obama will lose. New Mexico and Connecticut both have that Catholic connection.
6 posted on 08/20/2012 6:43:57 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016
I was part of the Connecticut conservative movement in the 90’s. The state is full of conservative Roman Catholics who voted reliably Democrat. They were able to justify this behavior a number of ways but were never comfortable with the secular leftists in their party. When Obama took on the Catholic Church it was too much for many of them. If they have to choose between the Church and Obama, Obama will lose. New Mexico and Connecticut both have that Catholic connection.
7 posted on 08/20/2012 6:44:02 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

Where have these two states been called “Lean Obama” ?


8 posted on 08/20/2012 6:44:41 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: Judge Kovitzky

I hope the Catholics and Christians get us out from under obama’s stinky boot.


9 posted on 08/20/2012 6:46:35 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Keep in mind that around this same point in time, Carter was polling ahead of Reagan. With the Ryan addition to the campaign, they finally have some Romney........ignorant comments by Akin aside.............they are having success, the Obummer campaign is throwing the kitchen sink at them and saying basically ANYTHING at this point and they are still flailing, as Obama is the incumbent, things will only get worse for him from here on out.


10 posted on 08/20/2012 6:49:12 PM PDT by PhxTM06
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016
Remember that Obama is pro regionalization. The people of Connecticut will go to war over that. It's been a sore spot in Connecticut for over 60 years. Regionalization is a battle Obama’s mentors lost. Liberal’s never give up.
11 posted on 08/20/2012 6:49:23 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: muir_redwoods

My only other thought is that Conn and NM have been polled fewer times due being solid BHO states, hence a poor sampling overall.


12 posted on 08/20/2012 6:50:39 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

Regarding New Mexico, where did that information come from?


13 posted on 08/20/2012 6:55:57 PM PDT by CedarDave (Palin/Ryan -- both should have been at the top of the ticket and not play second fiddle to GOPe)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

I don’t care where Nevada is in the polls, if Romney can get out close to 100% of the LDS vote, which he will, then he wins Nevada.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 6:58:29 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

Do you have some links for that polling?


15 posted on 08/20/2012 7:09:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

I’ve been a Connecticut resident for 62 years.

Since the 80’s, the state has been tipping further and further left, to the point where it’s essentially “toppled over”. I don’t believe there currently is a single Republican representing the state in Congress (House/Senate).

Linda McMahon is making a second attempt for the Senate, but she lost last time despite spending millions, has spent millions again this time to fend off a couple of primary challengers, will spend millions more between now and November, and.... probably lose again. (Aside: one can’t help think that she’s trying to buy the office, a la John Corzine.)

Romney may get close here, but I doubt he’ll win. I’d say his chances here are about as good as they are in Massachusetts next door...

I’d enjoy being proven wrong this November...


16 posted on 08/20/2012 7:12:26 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

and lets keep in mind Pennsylvania, we all know Romney would win assuming no voter fraud. the GOP voters need to come out in full force to take the state. Now that would be the October Surprise. “Romney Leads Obama By 10 Points In Pennsylvania”!


17 posted on 08/20/2012 7:12:43 PM PDT by Ryan_Rubio_2016
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

giving Obama more states to worry about and less money and time to campaign in.
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BINGO! You nailed it. Obama and team blew their wad this summer and it has not hurt Romney in the polls. Now, Obama’s cash flow is tanking and Romney has about $40 Million more on hand for the final two months of the campaign than Obama has. PLUS....Romney’s Super Pacs have a gazillion dollars to spend. The Obama team miscalculated badly.


18 posted on 08/20/2012 7:24:22 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: matt04

Tell us Matt: What do you think are the chances that Romney will carry CT? Realistically.


19 posted on 08/20/2012 7:26:55 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: muir_redwoods
There are a lot of democrats around here who won't be voting for obama this time around. I can't tell you how many people thought it was harmless to vote for the black guy they knew little about. They made my blood boil when they would tell me I'm overreacting. There are a lot of voters out here in North West CT who can't wait to fix the mistake they made four years ago.
20 posted on 08/20/2012 7:29:22 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: SunkenCiv

You know, some people have said that Obama was not above starting a war before the Election. But, I don’t think that would help his Election chances. As you said, the leftist a-holes would not get excited about turning out to vote for him; and this Election is so close, turn-out is key. And the people who hate Obama wouldn’t vote for him if he single-handedly whooped Iran.


21 posted on 08/20/2012 7:32:26 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: SaraJohnson

...the Catholics and Christians....
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LOL... Catholics ARE Christians Sarah. They’re not Muslims, Jews, Buddhist, Hindu....... They are Christians; they believe in Christ.


22 posted on 08/20/2012 7:34:29 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

Not all Connecticut Nutmeggers are democrats.

My little town has been Republican for years. Only twice in my lifetime, I’m in the fifty’s nifty club, has a democrat been elected first selectman. And both times, the town went bak to republican leadership after one term.

Don’t judge the whole state by the few, albeit big, sewers in the state.


23 posted on 08/20/2012 7:35:54 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

if Romney can get out close to 100% of the LDS vote, which he will, then he wins Nevada.
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There are also a gazillion LDS church members in Colorado. I’ve felt all along that the Mormons in America will mobilize for Romney. That’s about 4-5 million foot soldiers; eh?


24 posted on 08/20/2012 7:37:22 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: KosmicKitty

” by the few, albeit big, sewers in the state.”

They are not all big - Willimantic comes to mind . My hometown BTW .


25 posted on 08/20/2012 7:38:29 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: peeps36

I now ask you the same question I asked Matt in Post #19.


26 posted on 08/20/2012 7:40:34 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Judge Kovitzky

Could we have you back in CT to help us out?


27 posted on 08/20/2012 8:23:14 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Road Glide

Hi I have lived in CT for 18 year’s. I can’t believe how bad the state has become because of the unions power over everything.
I will vote for Linda McMahon because that vote is better than a union vote.
I am not concerned about how much Linda spends, its her money not our’s which us what the union money is with all Obama money from the stimulus $$.


28 posted on 08/20/2012 8:32:22 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016
O.k. How about two more reasons? Romney's Morman connections give him a great organisation in the western mountain states including New Mexico. His power base in Massechusetts gives him pull with the Connecticut electorate.
29 posted on 08/20/2012 8:39:27 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: mojo114
I would love too but I can't make it back just yet. I am in a good position to help the country from my home in central Florida. Senator Len Suzio is a good man and he knows most of the conservative activists in the state. Give him a call. He will be able to tell you where you are needed most.
30 posted on 08/20/2012 8:52:53 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

I know. :) I meant Protestant Christians and Catholic Christians.


31 posted on 08/20/2012 8:59:37 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Ryan_Rubio_2016

I have a relative who is very high up on the corporate ladder of a global chain you’ve certainly heard of. He lives in a rich area of Connecticut. It’s the kind of town where you’ll get pulled over by the local police force if your car is over 5 years old.

I was recently at his house for a party and overheard some of his friends talking politics. I heard at least three different people - all from this same “class” of people - say for the first time they are going to vote Republican. They were saying it like they were teenagers sneaking out of the house at night for the first time and I believed it when I heard them.

These folks aren’t dumb with their money. After 3+ years of Obama attacking “the rich”, “the rich” have gotten the message. The conversations I overheard - and the polls discussed here - are the reprecussions. I suspect this is represented in the polls showing CT as a toss up.


32 posted on 08/21/2012 5:35:52 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: Judge Kovitzky; All
Remember that Obama is pro regionalization. The people of Connecticut will go to war over that.

Can you please explain what "regionalization" is? Haven't heard that term used in a political context. Didn't know it was a hot issue anywhere.

33 posted on 08/21/2012 7:40:26 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: pistolpackinpapa

I believe it will be closer than the Obama campaign thinks and they will ave to spend money to win it.


34 posted on 08/21/2012 12:45:36 PM PDT by matt04
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To: pistolpackinpapa
I think Romney has a decent chance of winning. The cities will go for Obama and the suburbs will go for Romney. It will come down to how many voters turn out in each area. If it's a real close race the democrats will steal it like they did for Malloy in Bridgeport. I've been traveling up and down the Western half of the state and I have come across one or two Obama bumper stickers and signs. There is no enthusiasm that I can see. The people who are motivated are the ones who want Obama out of the white house.
35 posted on 08/21/2012 1:50:11 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: justiceseeker93
Good question justice seeker. It is not a hot issue in Connecticut it is a settled issue. The left lost this one. When I was a young boy in the early 70s I would hear my parents discuss how they saved and worked hard to purchase a house in the suburbs of New Haven Ct. My dad was a young school teacher and he knew the schools in the city were going down hill fast due to leftist governance. He worked three jobs so we could live outside the city in a conservative run town with a conservative run school. Besides the crime rate in the city was sky high and the riots of 69 and 70 were still fresh on everyone’s minds. When the State announced that my siblings and I would be bused back into New Haven you would have thought it was Lexington and Concord. The politicians backed down immediately and the insurrection was over. Obamas leftist mentors engineered forced busing (regionalisation) as part of their plans. Obama has been quietly resurrecting those plans.
36 posted on 08/21/2012 6:34:56 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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