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China stiff-arms FDA on jerky pet treat testing, reports show
NBC ^ | 8/22/12 | JoNel Aleccia

Posted on 08/22/2012 2:29:57 PM PDT by EBH

Chinese government officials overseeing plants that make chicken jerky pet treats blamed for thousands of illnesses and deaths among American dogs have refused to allow U.S. inspectors to collect samples for independent analysis, newly released records show.

Investigators with the federal Food and Drug Administration came away empty-handed after conducting April inspections at four jerky treat manufacturing sites in Liaocheng and Jinan, China, according to the records.

The plants make pet treats sold by the St. Louis-based Nestle Purina PetCare Co., including the popular Waggin’ Train jerky brands.

Chinese officials stipulated that FDA officials could collect samples only if they agreed to specific conditions, including a requirement that the samples be tested in Chinese-run laboratories.

As a result, “no samples were collected during this inspection,” wrote Dennis L. Doupnik, an FDA investigator who visited the sites.

In addition, the reports showed that the Chinese plants conducted either no laboratory tests or only sporadic tests of the raw materials, including meat used in treats fed to many of the 78.2 million pet dogs in the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at vitals.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: 2012; chickenjerky; china; corruption; dogfood; doggieping; dogs; treats
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1 posted on 08/22/2012 2:30:05 PM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

If anyone is feeding their dog anything from China, they might as well give the dog up to the local police dept for target practice.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 2:33:08 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: EBH
Lost a really good Great Pyrenees to the fake protein supplement the chi-coms sold the dog food makers awhile back. We try to avoid chinese stuff as much as possible now.
3 posted on 08/22/2012 2:37:04 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: EBH

Just go and buy a bag from the supermarket.

Or, just block imports from those factories until they comply.


4 posted on 08/22/2012 2:37:13 PM PDT by marron
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To: DEADROCK

I read the packaging very closely, Only products manufactured in the US. We had a male have seizure like symptoms after being allowed to have rawhide while he was staying at a friends house. Very scary


5 posted on 08/22/2012 2:39:48 PM PDT by rocketmag
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To: marron

That’s what I was thinking; the crap’s sitting on the shelves!!

OK, if this stuff is coming from an American company, how do we know what food is safe?


6 posted on 08/22/2012 2:40:41 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (If you build it, Obama wants credit!)
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To: EBH

Screw Nestle Purina - why buy ANY pet food from them if they sell crap from China?


7 posted on 08/22/2012 2:41:37 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
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8 posted on 08/22/2012 2:44:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: fella

I buy jerky for human comsumption, and its usually a little cheaper. Have to take it easy on the amount, the vet doesn’t like the sulfides (I think thats it) in jerky..


9 posted on 08/22/2012 2:46:07 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: rocketmag
I feed my dog Petcurian NOW. All local products. Duck, salmon and turkey with omega oils. NO GRAINS.

Is it expensive? 65 bucks for 25lbs.

I am not affiliated with this company in any way.

Petcurian website will show the closest retailer which is handy when traveling with your dog/s.

10 posted on 08/22/2012 2:50:15 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: marron

“Or, just block imports from those factories until they comply.”

That is what a sane President would have done, but Obama is scared shitless of the ChiComs.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 2:50:48 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: EBH
We don't buy anything for our dogs that is made in China. We also buy nothing from any company that has a history of having to recall bad product.

We are very close to feeding only home-made food.

12 posted on 08/22/2012 2:50:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rocketmag

Sorry, spelling mistake. The company is Petcurean.com


13 posted on 08/22/2012 2:54:26 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Slump Tester

Purina used to be the reliable pet food. Now with Nestle, a true “global” anything for a profit company.

As with most things from PRC, Buyer Beware!


14 posted on 08/22/2012 2:54:32 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: marron; EBH; All
Just go and buy a bag from the supermarket.

Or, just block imports from those factories until they comply.


That would require the FDA to get out of bed with global corporations that place saving nano cents on the dollar by manufacturing in red china ahead of safety. After the problem with plastic added to pet food ingredients to boost the 'protein' content, the FDA set 'acceptable' limits for plastic in food!
15 posted on 08/22/2012 2:55:20 PM PDT by khelus
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To: EBH; All

Make your own pet treats. There are enough online sites to make sure your dog is getting what YOU get! If YOU can’t eat it, then don’t give it to your pets!


16 posted on 08/22/2012 2:56:45 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Dogs + stress = If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and waIlk away.)
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To: trisham

I feed Nature’s Variety RAW diet for my cats.

Recently the AVMA and the AAHA came out with policy statements to vets to discourage raw diets. My Atlas actually wrote the AVMA to have his viewpoint considered: http://www.finickyfeline-fido.com/blog/2012/07/28/Atlas-write-to-the-AVMA-about-Raw-Food-for-Cats.aspx Too bad for him they refuse to listen.

Last week the AAHA came out with a similar policy statement.

And yet...the FDA is powerless


17 posted on 08/22/2012 2:58:09 PM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: DEADROCK

WE HAVE A WINNER! You are dead on with that statement.


18 posted on 08/22/2012 2:59:57 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: trisham

Same here. Any food product from China, whether for animals or humans cannot be trusted. Right now I boil ground turkey and mix in mashed sweet potato for my wee beasties. They get a few ounces of that with the (gluten free) dry kibble I give them. The kibble has to be made in the US or Canada and can’t contain any ingredients from China.


19 posted on 08/22/2012 3:00:20 PM PDT by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: EBH; All

Make your own pet treats. There are enough online sites to make sure your dog is getting what YOU get! If YOU can’t eat it, then don’t give it to your pets!


20 posted on 08/22/2012 3:00:56 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Dogs + stress = If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and waIlk away.)
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To: goat granny
Yeah, in those treats sulfites are a concern and sodium levels, possibly. Moderate amts okay.

Along the same lines, years ago my Vet confided to me there is no such thing as "dog food." Although, strangely, she does sell quite a bit of it from her lobby... Now my dogs have received a lifelong varied meat and vegetable diet (with some nightly ice cream), and all have lived very extended, healthy lives.

And, no, Chinese food is never on the menu.

21 posted on 08/22/2012 3:02:44 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: rex regnum insanit

Don’t forget rice in their diets. It is easily digestible, and goes well with chicken!

:o]


22 posted on 08/22/2012 3:02:59 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Dogs + stress = If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and waIlk away.)
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To: EBH

“That would do it for that product. I would pull them all off the market,” said Kucinich. “Fine. You’re done.”

It’s scary that I’m agreeing with Dennis Kucinich.


23 posted on 08/22/2012 3:06:40 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: marron
Or, just block imports from those factories until they comply.

No problem, the paperwork will show that not a single gram of this crap came from those factories...

24 posted on 08/22/2012 3:09:39 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1311 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: EBH

When I buy my dog food of any sort I look for where it was made. If it was made in China, I do not buy it, no exceptions.


25 posted on 08/22/2012 3:12:44 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: WILLIALAL
Re:“Or, just block imports from those factories until they comply.”

That is what a sane President would have done, but Obama is scared shitless of the ChiComs.


It would seem so was bush.

FDA News Release October 3, 2008: " ...In food products other than infant formula, the FDA concludes that levels of melamine and melamine-related compounds below 2.5 parts per million (ppm) do not raise concerns ..."
26 posted on 08/22/2012 3:16:42 PM PDT by khelus
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To: Dysart

My dog is deaf and blind and I went overboard on treats for her, the vet asked if she liked green beans, I said she loved them and will eat anything I eat...he told me to give her green beans for a treat as she really had to lose some weight. One can last about 2 days and I also put a few in with her dry dog food...


27 posted on 08/22/2012 3:19:21 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: OldPossum

I also do not buy any plastic glass ware, china (ha), pots and pans made in china!!Nothing that my food or drink is in!


28 posted on 08/22/2012 3:25:23 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: EBH
I've known a number of people who BARF (bones and raw food) their dogs. It's a lot of work, but as far as I know, it's not a bad diet.

At the moment, we're feeding our dogs "Earth born" dog food. If this doesn't work out, I'm not sure I will ever trust another manufacturer of dog food.

29 posted on 08/22/2012 3:27:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DEADROCK

I buy Blue Buffalo dog food..made in the US..at least we have a fighting chance. someone in the dog food business told me it was the best.


30 posted on 08/22/2012 3:27:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: EBH

My dogs love Waggin’ Tails country ham slices. Are those from China??!!


31 posted on 08/22/2012 3:33:42 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: trisham

Our dog was having infections on the skin inside his ears all the time (would come and go with treatments). The vet finally sent blood work in to test for allergies. Came back with a list 4 pages long of stuff that he is allergic to! He’s on a “meat-lovers” diet now.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 3:33:58 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

We have options, don’t we. I was making dog food and treats and my vet asked why I was reinventing the wheel.


33 posted on 08/22/2012 3:35:38 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: goat granny

Do you use frozen green beans?


34 posted on 08/22/2012 3:45:13 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: trisham

I have fed my dogs raw meaty bones for years. My vet bills have dropped to nothing (except any shots required by law).

It is not work, and it isn’t hard. Don’t pay attention to Billinghurst, Read Tom Lonsdale, he is much better. You can google his website - he is an outstanding vet from Australia.

Do not give doggie vitamins. Lonsdale explain why. No need to grind up veggie slop, either. And, either make your own pet treats, or buy from a trusted source, such as “SitStay” (online, very reliable, good shipper)

You will love the results, and be surprised how easy it is to toss out some raw meaty bones for your dogs dinner, and watch the joy in his/her face as they eat the way God planned.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 3:53:10 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“I buy Blue Buffalo dog food..made in the US..at least we have a fighting chance. someone in the dog food business told me it was the best.”

That’s what I feed my guys.


36 posted on 08/22/2012 3:57:42 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: EBH

Have you heard anything negative about Rawhide from Brazil ?


37 posted on 08/22/2012 4:14:36 PM PDT by jonatron (This is the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave.)
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To: EBH

We feed our dog “Ol’ Roy”, and table scraps. Hot dogs make good treats, and they are cheaper than buying dog treats. If it were just our dog we are feeding, he could eat his meals with everyone else, but the neighbor’s Anitolian shepherd is over here at 6am for breakfast, and he spends most of his day here. On some weekends, our other neighbor’s little pit bull, Boston terrier mix is here. He spends most of his life on a chain, so when he comes he likes to play, eat, follow people around, and eat some more. Just in the past week or two the Anitolian has started walking down the street where he collects a couple of pups to bring over. We are trying to not let that go any further. I’m going to get my backhoe, cement mixer and kids, and build a better fence.


38 posted on 08/22/2012 4:18:26 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Dysart

No, just what ever canned green beans are on sale. I don’t get the french cut, just regular green beans...they appear magically in her bowl, she checks it often...LOL just a tablespoon or 2 for an evening snack. A few during the day...only 1 spoonful then......


39 posted on 08/22/2012 4:38:43 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: DEADROCK
If anyone is feeding their dog anything from China, they might as well give the dog up to the local police dept for target practice.

what you said.

40 posted on 08/22/2012 4:39:41 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: jacquej

I lived in New Zealand for almost 7 years. In 1999 when we got our first German Shepherd, dry dog food choices in the grocery store were pretty slim, but there was lots of fresh and frozen raw meat dog food choices. One town we lived near had a dedicated raw meat pet food shop we bought our food from for a while. We were told that when dry dog food started being used, the vets started seeing a lot of health problems they hadn’t seen before, and particularly more tumors.


41 posted on 08/22/2012 4:39:52 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: DEADROCK

Can’t believe that Costco still sells the jerky of China. They prefer items with a fast turnover and the publicity can’t help sales.


42 posted on 08/22/2012 4:41:57 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: 21twelve
We had exactly the same problem with out dog. The vet suggested a lamb and rice dog food. The first two days he did nothing but bark at his food bowl. I finally sat down and hand fed him some of the new stuff and he wouldn't touch the old stuff again.

A month later his ears are great without meds and he's lost down to where his weight should be.

I never feed any purchased treats. The cat food thing several years ago scared me to death. If we are traveling I buy him some made in TN human jerky for treats.

43 posted on 08/22/2012 4:49:25 PM PDT by Roses0508
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To: pops88

You are right, pops. This is what got both Billinghurst and Lonsdale thinking about the hazards of dry dog food.

Unfortunately, Billinghurst sold out to the “industry” and changed his point of view once he had a line of doggie vitamins to sell to the “BARF” followers.

Lonsdale never did sell out. He emphasizes the whole prey model, says a few veggies do no harm, and that organ meats do matter, in proportion to the whole.

One of his books is very easy to read, and one is for those who are seriously interested in the science. The easier one is all you need to have a happy healthy dog.

Our raw meaty bone dogs enjoy certain vegetables and fruits as snacks, but raw meaty bones are what I feed them, along with bits of liver and other edible organs (good source of vitamins not found in muscle meat and bone).

For those of you who hate to handle slippery bits of innards, they can be found freeze-dried, easy to handle, and give in the right proportions.

I get dehydrated liver and salmon snacks from SitStay (no relation to them, other than having ordered from them for years) to provide the required extras.

I am also happy to have a shop near me who sells ground whole raw meat, from rabbit, quail, turkey, chicken, duck, elk, bison - you name it, they sell it.

But most dogs prefer to crunch the bones in their back teeth for themselves. Why else do enterprising dog-toy makers make those silly sleeves for plastic pop bottles?

Do just a bit of homework before jumping in, however. It isn’t complicated to switch a dog over, but you have to be prepared for some stools full of slimy mucous as part of getting rid of the toxins built up in the dog’s intestines from the grains in kibble.

One thing you all will love is the clean breath, cleaner teeth (never had to pay for teeth cleaning), the loss of doggy smell, and the best of all?

Dog poops that are very firm, eliminating the “scoots”, that do not stink, and crumble away into a whitish powder needing no scooping, unless you are in an area requiring this by law.

If you do, you will find this task much less onerous.


44 posted on 08/22/2012 5:05:22 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: dljordan

I am going to stay with Blue Buffalo treats and Biljac liver treats are made in Medina Oh..US company.


45 posted on 08/22/2012 5:26:44 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: EBH

I’ll say it again.......

Truman should have listened to MacArthur instead of firing him.

To Hades with the Chicoms. We should hit them with the biggest tariffs in history and do everything we can to destroy their economy and trade.

Anything that insults them and makes them lose as much “face” as possible.

We can start by refusing to buy ANY goods made by those jagoffs.


46 posted on 08/22/2012 5:43:57 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (que)
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To: Slump Tester

Nestle isn’t an American company.


47 posted on 08/22/2012 5:45:39 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (que)
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To: chrisinoc

It is very disappointing, isn’t it.


48 posted on 08/22/2012 5:49:00 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: goat granny

Funny....my dog loves Lima beans, which he gets at least once a week.


49 posted on 08/22/2012 5:52:20 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (que)
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To: Dysart

I have fed my kids the same things I eat for over 30 years. I make their slumgullion out of rice, meat, barley and garden vegetables. First the meat, fat and gristle go into the sausage grinder, then the vegetables and grains go into the food processor for a semi fine grind; then every thing goes back through the sausage grinder to get combined into a yummie sludge, then every thing goes into the cook pot for about 2 hours. Salt and pepper plus some herbs to taste and it’s done.
I use the waste cuts from the local butcher for the meat and large bones for marrow, during hunting season they get lots of venison. The butcher charges about $1.50 per pound for the meat and bones. All the vegetables I grow in my gardens and use fresh or canned (I can my own). These guys will eat more of the fruit out of the orchard than I do once the season comes around, so they must like it. I always tell my wife that my dogs eat better than about 90% of the people in the world and I love it.


50 posted on 08/22/2012 6:04:44 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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