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Casino sues to recoup unshuffled deck wins
.upi. ^ | Aug. 22, 2012

Posted on 08/23/2012 8:17:52 AM PDT by JoeProBono

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J., Aug. 22 (UPI) -- A New Jersey casino is seeking the return of $1.5 million from 14 gamblers after officials discovered their mini-Baccarat table's deck of cards was unshuffled.

The Golden Nugget casino in Atlantic City is suing the 14 gamblers, who together totaled 41 winning bets in a row when the cards at the table began coming out in sequence, the New York Post reported Wednesday.

A casino spokeswoman said the gamblers were initially suspected of cheating, but officials soon discovered the cards -- which had been ordered as pre-shuffled from the Missouri manufacturer -- "were not shuffled at all."

"The gamblers unlawfully took advantage of the Golden Nugget when they caught on to the pattern and increased their bets from as little as $10 to $5,000," the casino said in a statement.

The lawsuit, which also names card manufacturer Gemaco Inc., seeks the return of $550,000 cash and $1 million in chips still held by the players after officials ceased honoring the chips from the table.

Benjamin Dash, a lawyer for three of the players who have countersued to have their chips honored, said the Golden Nugget's suit is "sending the message from the casino that 'when we win, we win, and when we lose, we win."


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1 posted on 08/23/2012 8:17:59 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

The gamblers “unlawfully took advantage of Golden Nugget”?????? BBWWWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


2 posted on 08/23/2012 8:21:21 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: JoeProBono; Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!
A New Jersey casino is seeking the return of $1.5 million from 14 gamblers after officials discovered their mini-Baccarat table's deck of cards was unshuffled. The Golden Nugget casino in Atlantic City is suing the 14 gamblers, who together totaled 41 winning bets in a row when the cards at the table began coming out in sequence, the New York Post reported Wednesday. A casino spokeswoman said the gamblers were initially suspected of cheating, but officials soon discovered the cards -- which had been ordered as pre-shuffled from the Missouri manufacturer -- "were not shuffled at all."

"You didn't cheat in Vegas so me am suing you!" - Bizarro Baccarat Dealer.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 8:22:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: bigdaddy45; Daffynition

The money you bring to Vegas stays in Vegas.


4 posted on 08/23/2012 8:23:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Legally, I don’t know if they have a case. But in the court of public opinion, this is a disaster of public relations if they go ahead with this and sue the winners.


5 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: a fool in paradise

Legally, I don’t know if they have a case. But in the court of public opinion, this is a disaster of public relations if they go ahead with this and sue the winners.


6 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: JoeProBono

Seems to me that the casino needs to take it up with the card manufacturer.


7 posted on 08/23/2012 8:25:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: JoeProBono
"The gamblers unlawfully took advantage of the Golden Nugget when they caught on to the pattern and increased their bets from as little as $10 to $5,000," the casino said in a statement.

There is nothing UNLAWFUL about it. Ken Uston helped to establish that many years ago.

8 posted on 08/23/2012 8:25:43 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: JoeProBono

Where I come from we would call this a crock of crap. Too bad casinos. You lose. Not our fault you screwed up.


9 posted on 08/23/2012 8:26:31 AM PDT by animal172 (Go Paul Ryan. Chew 'em up and spit 'em out.)
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To: JoeProBono

The suit seem wacky. None of the players was the dealer of these hands. So none of the players had an opportunity to alter the randomness of the card order. Since the dealer placed the cards into play, I don’t know how the players can be faulted for noticing the pattern while the dealer failed to.


10 posted on 08/23/2012 8:28:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: cripplecreek

The card manufacturer and the casino’s employees hold the fault here. How long did it take the dealer and security to figure it out?


11 posted on 08/23/2012 8:29:14 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Stella Avenue”. Della Street is named for Dell Street in my home city of Malden, MA where Earl Stanley Gardner lived.


12 posted on 08/23/2012 8:31:22 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Ingtar

How could the dealer not have noticed? Where was the pit boss? Where was the shift supervisor? It is their jobs to notice this stuff.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 8:35:55 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Ingtar

How could the dealer not have noticed? Where was the pit boss? Where was the shift supervisor? It is their jobs to notice this stuff.


14 posted on 08/23/2012 8:36:07 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

In the world of logic, there is no legal case here. Something in the back of my memory recalls state laws have specific language for dealing with situations like this. If my recollection is correct, the casino may win.


15 posted on 08/23/2012 8:40:05 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: JoeProBono

You know, crap like this just gives those unwashed, syphilis rattled communist brains in OWS more ammo.

Why people continue to go to a business that openly admits they rig all the games in their favor is beyond me.

So here we have a card company that screwed up, a casino dealer dead from the neck up, casino security who seem no better than Keystone cops and who do the greedy bastards go after... the customer of course.

Casinos deserve to suffer an economic depression to teach them a lesson in customer service. Man up, you pathetic wimps in suits. Show some class, admit your mistake and use it as a lesson. If it were not for mob protection and corrupt politicians, consumer advocates would have shut down casinos years ago.

I have zero problems with gambling as it is your money do with it what you will but here we have an industry that openly admits they rig games and get away with it.

Hell even at the local county fair, there are inspectors to make sure the games are legit.


16 posted on 08/23/2012 8:40:36 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: JoeProBono

If the cards had worked to the Casino’s favor; could the customers sue the Casino for their money back?


17 posted on 08/23/2012 8:41:10 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: JoeProBono

Too bad, so sad they won.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 8:43:01 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“.....in the court of public opinion, this is a disaster of public relations....”

Exactly. It seems to me the $1.5 million the casino “lost”
is a drop in the bucket when compared to all the bad publicity the hotel and casino will generate from their lawsuit (or lawsuits).


19 posted on 08/23/2012 8:47:13 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If people don't have to show an ID to vote, why do they have to show one to purchase a firearm?.)
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To: JoeProBono

How do we know the casino didn’t order the cards pre-shuffled in THEIR favor? Seems that that scenario would be more grounds to sue the manufacturer.

Are those few decks the first ones used by the casino that were ordered “pre-shuffled”?

Shouldn’t someone have checked some random decks to insure the cards were, in fact, pre-shuffled?

Sounds more like the casino is yelling “sour grapes” for losing than owning up to their own lack of foresight and responsibility.

If I ever go to Vegas, I’ll be sure to avoid the Golden Nugget.


20 posted on 08/23/2012 8:47:53 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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