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Posted on 08/23/2012 3:16:04 PM PDT by xp38

From Australia but it translates well to the US. Uni is short for university. Ute is a pickup truck.

Scenario : Jack goes rabbit shooting before school, pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his rifle & chats with Jack about guns.

2011 - School goes into lock down, Tactical Response called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his ute or gun again.. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2011 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board hold meeting to implement bullying prevention programs

Scenario: Robbie won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.

1957 - Robbie sent to office and given 6 of the best by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2011 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and School gets extra funding from state because Robbie has a disability.

Scenario : Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's house and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to Uni, and becomes a successful businessman.

2011 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.

Scenario : Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark gets glass of water from Principal to take aspirin with.

2011 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario : Jamal fails high school English.

1957 - Jamal stays after school & learns, passes English and goes to Uni.

2011 - Jamal's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. AFRE files class action lawsuit against state school system and Jamal's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Jamal given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario : Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from Cracker night, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a bullant nest.

1957 - Ants die.

2011 - Tactical Response , Federal Police & Anti-terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, Federal Police investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated. Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again..

Scenario : Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2011 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy..


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: 1950s; 1957; discipline; education; learning; malestudents; schools; teaching; trends; zerotolerande

1 posted on 08/23/2012 3:16:06 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38
This is not satire but reality. Those examples I think are very real.
2 posted on 08/23/2012 3:21:33 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: xp38

The death of liberty.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 3:23:15 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: xp38

The death of liberty.


4 posted on 08/23/2012 3:23:25 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: xp38
Ah, the good ol’ days of growing up and learning in the process instead of being questioned for state of mind and it being determined what kind of government help or directive is required to make one “normal”.
5 posted on 08/23/2012 3:27:01 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xp38

I used to like getting hugs from my Kindergarten teacher.

They were innocent and she hugged everyone.

But, she was a nice looking lady. I did not mind one bit.

If she did that now, she would be getting judged by this crowd at FR....And she was NOT Guilty by any standard.


6 posted on 08/23/2012 3:43:03 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am NOT from Vermont. I am from MA. And I don't support Romney. Please read before "assuming.")
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To: xp38

shucks, i use to go out dove hunting before class in HS in AZ. always kept the shotgun in the trunk of the car. never a problem.

that was in late 60’s early 70’s.

every once in awhile, i would be late for class, if the hunting was good. sometimes early, when i ran out of shells.

can’t imagine what would happen nowdays.

Blessings, bobo


7 posted on 08/23/2012 3:47:40 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Vermont Lt

Heck,just the school house itself then was windows

that were raised up for the hot weather...the schools

started in Sept for all us kids finishing up cutting

hay and putting the tobacco in the barn

Metal detectors and police patroling the halls today

in multi-million dollar schools


8 posted on 08/23/2012 4:14:14 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: xp38
Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

I've heard old people, or rather really old people, as I'm gray in the beard now myself, spout this nonsense before. What gave rise to these myths? I remember fights from high school, and no one shook hands afterwards. In at least two memorable instances the loser left in an ambulance and the winner was hauled off to jail. I can't think of a single instance where the loser felt good enough to stand up on his own and shake hands.

9 posted on 08/23/2012 4:28:14 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: xp38
Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

I've heard old people, or rather really old people, as I'm gray in the beard now myself, spout this nonsense before. What gave rise to these myths? I remember fights from high school, and no one shook hands afterwards. In at least two memorable instances the loser left in an ambulance and the winner was hauled off to jail. I can't think of a single instance where the loser felt good enough to stand up on his own and shake hands.

10 posted on 08/23/2012 4:28:14 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: xp38
They still had corporal punishment when I went to elementary school. The principal kept a paddle in his office. Boys and girls were paddled. If it was a girl, the only difference is the principal would have his secretary do the paddling. But the girls had it harder. The principal was a kind man but the secretary was mean and had a face like a prison guard - in Soviet Russia.

If you got paddled by the principal or his secretary, you didn't dare tell anybody at home because if you did, your mom or dad would hit you even harder.

Don't remember any discipline problems in that school. When I got to junior high school, it was the start of the 1970s and a whole different world. By time I got to high school in the late 1970s, it was like "Welcome Back Kotter" with the inmates running the asylum. Every class was disrupted by punk kids in leather jackets and nobody learned a damn thing.

11 posted on 08/23/2012 4:29:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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“Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.”

Happened to me. Laid a dude out...we were buddies afterwards.


12 posted on 08/23/2012 4:31:47 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“If she did that now, she would be getting judged by this crowd at FR....And she was NOT Guilty by any standard.”

If she’s NOT GUILTY she has nothing to worry about.

...well, other than that NANNY FReeper that keeps squealing to the mods every time we get a new picture to judge.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 4:35:40 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: SamAdams76

We STILL have corporal punishment in Alabama. My son got the whiffle paddle last year from the principal for being a wise-guy and I approved!

He hasn’t done it again. Not my son, nor the principal. As my boy told me, once is enough!


14 posted on 08/23/2012 4:44:09 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: xp38
Here's one my dad told me:

He and a buddy skipped (high) school to go out to the dump to shoot rats. Truant officer catches them, takes them to the principal's office.

The principal says "Boys, I have two questions: Where did you get the ammunition (early days of WWII), and why didn't you ask me to go along?"

15 posted on 08/23/2012 4:47:12 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: xp38

A lot of this culture can be changed. For example, though many Americans had lost their family gun culture, they are getting it back remarkably fast now that guns are again seen as being necessary for honest citizens.

It will be a big jump to reintroduce orderly gun culture back to schools, however. While the old style rifle clubs were entertaining or hunting oriented, schools today need to provide for handgun education.

Oddly enough this will need a lot of classroom to do it right, not just range firing. It could and should be a serious class, not just an easy credit hour.


16 posted on 08/23/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Melas

Wow, you must have been in a tough school.

In mine, fistfights ended up with bloody noses and bruises, not much else. I’m not “really old”, I’m 59. I did grow up in a small town where everyone knew one another.

There were neighbor boys down the street that used to harass me when I walked to school My younger brother, Bob, had a fight with one of them, broke his finger, and that was the end of the problem.


17 posted on 08/23/2012 6:22:17 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: xp38
1957 - schools criticized for being authoritarian and tyrannical.

2011 - schools criticized for being authoritarian and tyrannical.

1957 - schools criticized for being permissive and letting standards drop.

2011 - schools criticized for being permissive and letting standards drop.

:)

18 posted on 08/23/2012 6:23:26 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: Wicket

You’re 11 years older than me, but that shouldn’t make that much of a difference. I saw a kid stand up to a bully and leave in an ambulance with most of his bottom lip hanging off. He never came back to school.

I’m just not getting it. A high school aged boy can hit hard enough to break noses, ribs, cheekbones, or bruise/rupture kidneys, livers, spleens etc. Let’s not even talk about the damage that a HS linebacker could do to another human body.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 6:32:10 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: bobo1

When I was in high-school in the same time frame (late 60s) and my brother almost 13 years later guns in the pickup rack were standard issue. One each, shotgun and rifle. You never really did know if you were going to be hunting birds, squirrels, rabbits, hogs or deer before or after school. You just had to be prepared. Most of the year tackle box and fishing rod were also carried. We didn’t coon hunt a whole lot, mostly old men did that and used jumping mules to cross the fences and follow the dogs. When we did coon hunt though it was an all night affair. Great memorable fun.

In the early 80s my brother traded pistols with one of his teachers. Gun and clips carried to school on the bus and kept in a locker until the transaction could be made. He traded for one gun and Dad made him take it back because it was a Ruger and Dad thought he got taken in the deal.

Fights at school or anywhere else were seldom. In fact, I can’t remember a single one.

Vietnam was a fear we had but knew we would have to go if called. We had seen others go before us and most of them made it home. Fear is a great motivator to keep your grades up so you could go on to college.

You don’t have to go back too awfully far to find better days than these. It was normal. We didn’t seem to have the government in our face 24 / 7. We had freedom to live out our lives and pursue opportunity. We didn’t have an invasion of illegals insisting on their rights just as if they were citizens. Poor were helped and being a government employee was not the same as hitting the jackpot.

What happened to us?


20 posted on 08/23/2012 7:04:22 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.)
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To: Melas

Wow that must have been hard to see.

There were kids in my school that were a little off kilter, and left to their own devices might have have thought about being more violent. I remember one guy in particular who talked about a raccoon he shot out of a tree and how much he liked the sound of the bones crunching.

But, I think that peer/community standards and pressure and an understanding of what they would face from school or their parents if they went too far kept them in line.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 10:26:05 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: xp38
Another....

Johnny falls off his bicycle and breaks his arm.

1957 - Johnny is taken to the hospital where his arm is x-rayed, set and placed in a cast. 6 weeks later, cast is removed and life goes on.

2011 - After the hospital visit, Johnny's parents take him to a lawyer who initiates a lawsuit against Schwinn claiming that bicycles are dangerous unstable vehicles and should not be marketed to children. Schwinn settles out of court for an outrageous sum of money. Congress passes a bill outlawing 2-wheeled vehicles for anyone under the age of 18.

22 posted on 08/24/2012 5:38:33 AM PDT by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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There’s a really big site called “Say No To Psychiatry,” with a big section devoted just to abuses in education.

Psychiatry is a field that needs to see a psychiatrist. These people are so hostile.

http://www.sntp.net/


23 posted on 08/27/2012 4:47:48 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: xp38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDc0ID6PJeg&feature=youtu.be


24 posted on 08/27/2012 5:06:32 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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