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'Lunch Lady'friend of mine needs help with 'Michelle's Law of hiding the chocolate milk'*Vanity
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Posted on 08/23/2012 4:47:13 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda

"Where can I find out if something is a "law"? Supposedly, Michelle Obama made a law that all chocolate milk in the school milk cooler has to be in the back so the kids can't reach it. She doesn't want the elementary school kids to have chocolate milk, but if we sell it, then it has to be "hard for them to reach". So, little kids are crawling in to my milk cooler, hands are getting hurt, fingers are getting smooshed, etc etc and I'd like to find out if it's an actual "law" instead of just something she's "suggesting".

I'm the lunch lady at the school. Our supervisor came in and said we can't have the chocolate milk in front, it's a law from michelle Obama.

So, I'm just wondering, how do I find out if this is truly a law? I think it's stupid. The kids are all yelling - I can't reach the chocolate milk...i can't reach the chocolate milk. It's a disaster. She's hoping they'll choose the white milk."


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This is an honest to God note from my friend. Can you imagine? Who elected this moo cow into Congress to pass laws? I thought a post here would get things rolling. She lives and works in Kansas....where's Adam Sandler when you need him to stick up for our little ones
1 posted on 08/23/2012 4:47:21 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Our supervisor came in and said we can't have the chocolate milk in front, it's a law from michelle Obama.

Go over your ignorant supervisor's head.

2 posted on 08/23/2012 4:48:59 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

How can Michelle Obama make a law?

Tell her to put the milk to the front.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 4:49:14 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

4 posted on 08/23/2012 4:49:56 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

First, MO can’t make laws.
Second, that sounds more like something that would be done by a nanny administration.
Third, sounds like the kind of BS you would get in chain emails. I could find no reference at all in several various google searches.


5 posted on 08/23/2012 4:50:08 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

My friend messaged me on FB....it’s REAL!


6 posted on 08/23/2012 4:51:54 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ("Paul Ryan is the intellectual epicenter of the Republican Party'...Allen West)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

>>My friend messaged me on FB....it’s REAL!<<

Sorry but your Friend is either mistaken or she is pulling your leg.

The administration of the school is using MO as an excuse. The woman doesn’t make laws.


7 posted on 08/23/2012 4:54:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

My son teaches middle school. Yesterday for lunch, the kids got served eggs and a nasty ‘’sausage’’ made from vegetables or tofu or a combination. They couldn’t figure it out. The kids were not happy. He also said they are indeed being required to take a vegetable, which they throw away. They still have chocolate milk, but it is being discouraged. I’ll ask him if they are hiding it.


8 posted on 08/23/2012 4:56:38 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: MadelineZapeezda

LOL.. it is on the internet, it must be real.


9 posted on 08/23/2012 4:57:38 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Montanabound

I’m so glad I homeschool.


10 posted on 08/23/2012 4:59:24 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: mnehring

What don’t you understand about a personal friend asking me to do this, thru a private message on facebook....would I waste my time on this chit if it was a chain email?


11 posted on 08/23/2012 4:59:41 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ("Paul Ryan is the intellectual epicenter of the Republican Party'...Allen West)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Isn’t it racist to make the chocolate milk sit in the rear of the milk cooler?


12 posted on 08/23/2012 5:00:51 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: MadelineZapeezda

“Where can I find out if something is a “law”?

You can’t; I doubt if even most lawyers - or, for that matter, most legislators - could.

As a result, we’e all lawbreakers now.

But, of course, that’s why we need such a huge government bureaucracy - to enforce the law and to make new laws to enforce.

Fortunately we have sufficient lawmakers to see that it’s all possible; the money, privileges, power, and perks have nothing to do with it.

Really.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 5:01:58 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: MadelineZapeezda

I wasn’t talking about the BS having come from you, but wherever it originated that the administration of that school thinks it is real.


14 posted on 08/23/2012 5:02:27 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Is this for real? The dark ones have to sit in back?


15 posted on 08/23/2012 5:02:32 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: netmilsmom

I know she doesn’t make laws...she wanted to know what she should do? Guess sh’ll have to complain to her supervisors. JC....she’s NOT pulling my leg fir cryin out loud!


16 posted on 08/23/2012 5:03:01 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ("Paul Ryan is the intellectual epicenter of the Republican Party'...Allen West)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

This sounds like nonsense. Michelle can’t make laws, she can’t even direct rules or even guidelines for schools.


17 posted on 08/23/2012 5:05:14 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Montanabound

Same here. Kids now only get whole grain everything. They made pasta and my son threw it out. Talked to lunch lady and she is struggling. Kids get X number (grams, oz) of grains. She ladeled out one cup portions of pasta to 8th graders with one slice of bread. Kids can only get more fruit and veges if still hungry. So they are essentially feeding 13 year olds the same quantities as 7 year olds. Also, she said the cost of the new requirements is staggering and with that they are charging the kids, they can barely cover the cost of the food. Salad dressing is only oil and vinegar. Only 1 percent or skim milk (fat v added sugar). And this is a parochial school. Guidelines go in full effect next year. Once a month the kids can order Papa Johns pizza but that will no longer be allowed. Only pizza with wholegrain crust. Lunch lady said between nut and gluten allergies there will be a lot more packing.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 5:10:49 PM PDT by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Tell her to either put the milk in the front or ignore it.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 5:16:10 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: ElkGroveDan

ElkGroveDan~” Our supervisor came in and said we can’t have the chocolate milk in front, it’s a law from michelle Obama. Go over your ignorant supervisor’s head.”

Better yet : assign one lunchroom monitor whose only job is to stand by the milk machine anddispense chocolate milk .

There ,.. I fixed the chronic unemployment problem by one position .
That one position of employment will be read by the Federal Office of Management and Budget (OMB) as 100 jobs created by Moosechell, and represent a significant change in the indicator of the unemployment numbers.


20 posted on 08/23/2012 5:21:07 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Statistics don't lie ~ ... statisticians do (lie) ")
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Take it from a 1st grader.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/58417723/Aidan-Kohn-Murphy-Chocolate-Milk-Testimony


21 posted on 08/23/2012 5:23:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: lowbridge

“Like!”


22 posted on 08/23/2012 5:31:21 PM PDT by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

A real, nonpartisan nutritionist would recommend putting the chocolate next to the white, or God forbid, strawberry milk. At least then the kids will drink some milk. For years pediatricians talked about “milk fat babies” then quietly changed their tune when they realized that whole milk was better for older kids, but not a substitute for breast milk. My daughter would never drink anything but whole milk. She couldn’t stand the low fat. On occasion when she hasn’t been drinking milk for a while, I’ve brought home chocolate. Red Robin, Shake Shack, Moosechelle is hell bent on kids growing up with eating disorders and compromised immune systems because they’re throwing their lunch away every day. Are there no sane, nutritionists to speak out against this. I’ve only had one nutrition class in college, but this crap makes my head want to explode.


23 posted on 08/23/2012 5:32:34 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Of course we know Michelle can’t make laws, but she has put her weight behind getting the school lunch program changed. My daughter works in the local school system and she was telling me today how bad the kids were saying the lunches were.


24 posted on 08/23/2012 5:44:09 PM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: pops88

“I’ve only had one nutrition class in college, but this crap makes my head want to explode.”

I neglected to add I also worked in a world renowned teaching hospital in the their children’s hospital that had an entire floor devoted to eating disorders. I also knew several young children personally that died from them. I consider what Michelle and the Fed are doing regarding food as criminally endangering our youth.


25 posted on 08/23/2012 5:45:11 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: netmilsmom

You’ll never regret it. It’s the one thing I am so glad I did.


26 posted on 08/23/2012 5:47:21 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: MadelineZapeezda
She should just print out a sign that says, "If you can't reach the chocolate milk, please ask for help."

It stinks to be the smallest kid in the class.

27 posted on 08/23/2012 5:47:26 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (To keep spreading a lie--doesn't make it true. It makes it propaganda.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Basically, when an Obama speaks, unions listen. This is something parents are going to have to tackle.


28 posted on 08/23/2012 5:49:24 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: netmilsmom

How can Michelle enforce a law she has ‘made?’ How long do you think the jail sentence will be? Fine? How many hundreds and thousands of cafeteria workers will be in jail because of it? Molon Labe to that one - come and get me.

It’s the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave here, and WTP (we the people) elect the government to keep us safe and to keep order. We do not elect them to tell us how to eat, when to pee, how to bag our food, etc. AND our rights do not come from them. AND the Founding Fathers wisely added the Second Amendment so we could protect ourselves from them, because they knew that governments would be the worst usurpers of OUR rights.


29 posted on 08/23/2012 5:56:47 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: lowbridge

Lol!


30 posted on 08/23/2012 6:03:10 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

They’re also taking salt out of the french fries at the ball parks because of her.

Yech!


31 posted on 08/23/2012 6:07:29 PM PDT by chopperman
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To: JudyinCanada

Me too!

Both of them have been accepted into a local college. Paid.
There is nothing better than seeing your 12 and 14 year old in their College hoodies!


32 posted on 08/23/2012 6:07:34 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: bboop

Exactly!


33 posted on 08/23/2012 6:08:20 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: pops88
Are there no sane, nutritionists to speak out against this.

I'm sure they are some but if they speak out I suppose they are afraid that the government will visit them.

34 posted on 08/23/2012 6:09:29 PM PDT by teacherwoes ("It is vain to expect a well-balanced government without a well-balanced society" -Gideon Welles)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
The above posters are correct that Michelle Obama cannot make laws; however, the USDA, which funds and regulates the school lunch program, reports to her husband, the President of the United States. The USDA has issued new regulations for school lunches, and flavored milk is addressed in the new regulations. I believe the USDA was influenced by Mrs. Obama's Healthy Kids initiative.

Thanks to google, I found this:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-01-26/pdf/2012-1010.pdf

These are pages of the Federal Register dealing with changes to school lunch regulations beginning July 1, 2012.

On page 4095 of the above document, I found this paragraph: "This final rule allows flavor in fat-free milk only, and fat-free and low-fat choices only (consistent with Dietary Guidelines recommendations and the NSLA as amended by the HHFKA). Flavored lowfat (1 percent or 1⁄2 percent) milk is not allowed in the NSLP or the SBP upon implementation of the rule in SY 2012– 2013 because it contributes added sugars and fat to the meal and would make it more difficult for schools to offer meals that meet the limits on calories and saturated fat. We anticipate that the new calorie limits will lead menu planners to select milk with the lowest levels of added sugar. Implementing calorie maximums gives menu planners more flexibility than limiting added sugar."

I just skimmed through the document, I didn't read the whole thing. I doubt it recommends pushing the chocolate milk to the back of the refrigerator. However, these regulations are discouraging chocolate milk in school lunches.

35 posted on 08/23/2012 6:09:59 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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To: MadelineZapeezda
How a Bill Becomes a Law
36 posted on 08/23/2012 6:26:54 PM PDT by GnL
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Just addressing the chocolate milk question, per our district’s interpretation of the regulations, flavored milk (chocolate) has to be low fat or fat free.


37 posted on 08/23/2012 6:32:28 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: jeannineinsd

As a food service director of a large school district, I can state there is no such rule, law or directive. We offer flavored milk to all students.

The new regulations have us concerned about the low level of calories for growing students but are not regs that we cannot adjust too with minor changes.

As for the supervisor making that statement, it is absolutely false and they are hiding behind their own biases.

As for Michelle Obama..... she should worry more about what her and her family are eating and leave the rest of us alone.


38 posted on 08/23/2012 6:34:42 PM PDT by Maryland Man
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To: MadelineZapeezda; Revolting cat!

Did Michelle REALLY push through a regulation/advice to put the chocolate milks in the back of the cooler?

Former Mayon Nagin ain’t gonna be happy.


39 posted on 08/23/2012 6:42:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: chopperman

I was a Kroger the other day and saw some carry-with salt and pepper shakers and thought to my self, if I lived in NY I’d have to carry those in my purse. Looks like this crazyness is spreading so I will pick up a pair next time.

The second phase will be the banning of carry in salt.

Then you will need a prescription for salt.


40 posted on 08/23/2012 6:48:00 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Wooky’s law: Nothing is permitted unless it is specifically authorized. If you want to do it, you must ask permission. Your rights come from the government, and only the government, and then only the government when the Democrats are in office. All laws passed in a Republican held office are merely to be deemed uneducated suggestions and are not to be followed.

The chocolate milk must stay in the back of the bus...


41 posted on 08/23/2012 6:53:22 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: lowbridge

Coming from dairy country, it’s a well-established fact that farmers milk the darker cows last, just to make em suffer longer. They don’t know if they’re in line to get milked or get turned into steaks and burgers. (sarc)


42 posted on 08/23/2012 7:02:01 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Taffini

You, and others, may be very interested in this thread about salt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2891182/posts


43 posted on 08/23/2012 7:14:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

“Coming from dairy country, it’s a well-established fact that farmers milk the darker cows last, just to make em suffer longer. They don’t know if they’re in line to get milked or get turned into steaks and burgers. (sarc)”

When I was 4 or 5, my friendly, neighbor dairy farmer told us chocolate milk came from the brown cows. Even at that age, I wasn’t that ignorant. Kids are going to see this for what it is- being manipulated. They may not have the words to articulate it, but they’ll know. I’ve got a drawer full of candy that is so old it should be pitched, a bag of potato chips that I think have been opened for at least 3 months, old crackers galore, orange soda, cola that must be at least a year old...! Basic psychology- if you’re told you can’t have something, you want it all the more. My 17 year old is skinny as a rail and her favorite foods are beef and pork. I learned in nutrition class that studies showed in the long term, if the junk food isn’t denied, they’ll actually naturally eat a healthy diet. Sorry I can’t site the studies as they were back in about the ‘70s. Junk food has alway been available for my daughter but her first choice- very rare beef.


44 posted on 08/23/2012 7:28:10 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: lowbridge

“Isn’t it racist to make the chocolate milk sit in the rear of the milk cooler?”

This was so good, I had to repeat it.
WIN!

0bama is bad enough, but when I think about Bertha Butt... I just can’t stand it.
Maybe somebody could lasso her & haul her off. Just until January when it’s time for them to go.


45 posted on 08/23/2012 7:37:04 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: MadelineZapeezda
You may want to spend some time reading this...
Public Law 111–296 Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010

Search "performance awards" and see the money States get if they...
‘‘(II) make performance awards to not more than 15 States that demonstrate, as determined by the Secretary—

‘‘(aa) outstanding performance; and
‘‘(bb) substantial improvement.

And then eveeeeeeentually you get this...

SEC. 244. RESEARCH ON STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE THE SELECTION AND CONSUMPTION OF HEALTHY FOODS.
(a) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall establish a research, demonstration, and technical assistance program to promote healthy eating and reduce the prevalence of obesity, among all population groups but especially among children, by applying the principles and insights of behavioral economics research in schools, child care programs, and other settings.
(b) PRIORITIES.—The Secretary shall—

(1) identify and assess the impacts of specific presentation, placement, and other strategies for structuring choices on selection and consumption of healthful foods in a variety of settings, consistent with the most recent version of the Dietary Guidelines for Americans published under section 301 of the National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990 (7 U.S.C. 5341)
(2) demonstrate and rigorously evaluate behavioral economics-related interventions that hold promise to improve diets and promote health, including through demonstration projects that may include evaluation of the use of portion size, labeling, convenience, and other strategies to encourage healthy choices; and
(3) encourage adoption of the most effective strategies through outreach and technical assistance.

It's not "the law", but if you want the money follow the "effective strategies" and hide the milk.

46 posted on 08/23/2012 8:04:47 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Maryland Man
As for Michelle Obama..... she should worry more about what her and her family are eating and leave the rest of us alone.

I agree with you on that.

47 posted on 08/23/2012 8:05:25 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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To: jeannineinsd
I doubt it recommends pushing the chocolate milk to the back of the refrigerator. However, these regulations are discouraging chocolate milk in school lunches.

You may find reply 46 to be of interest.

48 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:42 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Taffini

“The second phase will be the banning of carry in salt.”

Just remember that if salt is outlawed, only outlaws will have salt!


49 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:42 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Nudging Your Students
Guiding the food choices students make, in ways they are unaware of, is called behavioral economics.

Snip...Milk Placement – Move the white milk in front of the chocolate.

Model for Improvement - Testing Interventions
Made skim milk the default choice by locating skim milk in front of the cooler, and placing chocolate milk in the back
Data not available. Placement of skim and chocolate milk was tested in April, and the final data were collected in March. Data were not collected on a weekly or monthly basis.

Amazing the amount of psychobabble in these things.

50 posted on 08/23/2012 8:30:21 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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