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School Bus Stop Arm Cameras Up & Running
CBS Local (DFW) ^ | August 27, 2012 | CBS Dallas

Posted on 08/27/2012 7:28:07 PM PDT by Altariel

DALLAS COUNTY (CBSDFW.COM) – According to Texas law, drivers must come to a complete stop when they see a school bus with its red lights flashing.

New technology will now make it easier to catch those violating the law in Dallas County.

As of Monday, Dallas County Schools and the City of Dallas are now using a high-tech program to protect students getting on or off school buses. Video cameras have been installed on the automated stop sign arm. The cameras are set up to identify license plates.

The recordings are later reviewed by a licensed police officer and offending motorist is issued a $300 ticket by mail.

Currently Dallas County Schools has a fleet of some 1650 buses, with more than half of those vehicles transporting the 60,000 students attending school in the Dallas Independent School District.

Warnings will be issued until the first week of September, and then tickets will be issued.

The stop arm camera program is the first of its kind in Texas.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cameras; dallas; schoolbus; texas

1 posted on 08/27/2012 7:28:17 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

If Stalin and Mao had this much power, China and Russia would still be mostly empty wastelands...


2 posted on 08/27/2012 7:34:02 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1316 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Altariel

Personally, I think they should force every car within in a one-mile radius to stop any time a school bus is loading or unloading children.

Soon they’ll have the technology to accomplish this. Then I’ll feel better, knowing that my good thoughts helped to protect The Children. I will finally know that I am Morally Superior.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 7:36:58 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

“Personally, I think they should force every car within in a one-mile radius to stop any time a school bus is loading or unloading children.”
Y ou are being a dope. I hope you know that...


4 posted on 08/27/2012 7:48:59 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Altariel

We’ve always had to stop for buses here in Michigan. It sucks to follow one but kids aren’t the most watchful road crossers.

A couple years ago a kid in my hometown hit and killed a father who was throwing his child out of the way. The crazy thing is that the driver of the car was the bus diver’s son.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 7:49:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Altariel
Cameras = $$$ for bureaucrats and profit for the companies that provide the service.

“It's to protect the children.” <- Always the excuse when they want to take more freedom and enact more big brother.

6 posted on 08/27/2012 7:50:13 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: Altariel
it's been that way in NY forever...
7 posted on 08/27/2012 7:53:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Aglooka

Under what state statute is this allowed? None that I’ve seen.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 7:53:54 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Altariel

Makes sense to make people stop IF THE KID IS CROSSING THE STREET. Unfortunately, at least in TX, the dang sign goes out even if the kid just gets out of the door and walks up to the house. That’s ridiculous.


9 posted on 08/27/2012 7:54:02 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: babygene

Said the guy who’s sarcasm detector is hopelessly broken?


10 posted on 08/27/2012 7:55:18 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: cripplecreek

Here in our Parish back in 2009, we had a school bus driver get picked up for DUI one night. He bonded out, then showed up on his route early the next morning, still loaded. He’s finally going to trial this October for the DUI, but although he’s been suspended, he was a tenured driver so he’s been pulling in $19K for the last three years.

http://www.katc.com/news/lafayette-school-bus-driver-suspended/

http://www.katc.com/news/lafayette-bus-driver-charged-with-dwi-goes-to-pretrial-nearly-three-years/

I’m fine with the cameras on the stop sign arm as long as the put an interlock on the steering wheel....


11 posted on 08/27/2012 8:07:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel
According to Texas law, drivers must come to a complete stop when they see a school bus with its red lights flashing.

That's a false statement of the law, but what can you expect from the media.

12 posted on 08/27/2012 8:11:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: rwfromkansas

I try to leave early enough so that I can sit and contemplate my navel if I must while school kids load.

God forbid that I should endanger them.

I’m seeing some little kids in their first year who are excited when they spot the bus up the road.

God Bless them! I remember fondly when my kids were that age. Those were good times.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 8:17:50 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Altariel

I recall when Eleanor Tinsley raised the maximum fine for passing a stopped school bus in Houston to $1,000. Don’t know if that maximum still stands (it was in the 1990s).


14 posted on 08/27/2012 9:10:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Altariel

My parents made a point of TEACHING ME HOW TO CROSS the street.

I still remember it. I was 5 years old, starting Kindergarten, and they let out a bit late, so the crossing guards went home prior. So we were all out there on our own - and we all survived. I still remember that I wouldn’t try crossing the (somewhat busy) street if there was a car within sight. That usually worked, until SOME IDIOT would stop and INSIST that I cross in front of him. I had trouble dealing with that.

By the way, the pedophiles were safely locked away back then, so no problem there.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 9:16:42 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Being a former bus driver myself, I don’t have a problem with it. All too often, several kids will live near each other in a neighborhood, and while they might normally get off the bus, and walk right up to their house, you never know when they might decide to (or be told to) visit a neighbor across the street, and they deviate from their usual routine.

Also, as pointed out elsewhere, kids are notorious for being poor decision makers, so they aren’t necessarily going to always do the right thing. Plus, they are taught that everyone is supposed to stop for the bus, so they make the assumption that what they were told is true.

Also, the nice thing about TX (at least in Dallas where I was) is that many of the larger surface streets are divided, with nice wide medians. You don’t have to stop if there’s a median separating you from the bus.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 10:29:14 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig
What is it with the drivers slowing down and hitting the flashing lights 1/4 mile or more before they stop?

Here in York, Pennsylvania I see this more and more, you know they are going to stop soon but how soon remains the question, sometimes I think the bus drivers are deliberately doing this mess up the flow of traffic because nobody will pass them with the strobes flashing even if it legal.

17 posted on 08/27/2012 10:59:48 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: this_ol_patriot

They’re supposed to be using the yellow flashers as they come up on the stop. They’re trained to do it that way, or at least we were. It wakes up any distracted drivers before the red ones come on (you’d be surprised how often that happens early in the morning, especially for the really early runs). I forget the exact distance we were told, but it varied depending on the road and the location of the stop. It’s not so much for the drivers behind the bus, but mainly to gain the attention of any drivers coming the other way, who haven’t been behind the bus the whole way and therefore aren’t thinking “school bus”.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 11:49:46 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Altariel

I see mailbox baseball is going to shift a bit.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 11:49:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Steely Tom

I think we ought to get rid of all school buses entirely and require kids to go to schools locally to them. For environmental reasons, wasting less gas, reducing crashes where kids have no seat belts, and of we’re supposed to think and support local things, what better way than the local school.

Time to start using liberal logic against hypocritical liberals. No more compromise. Time to turn things back to normal.


20 posted on 08/27/2012 11:53:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Little Pig
Now they have strobes on top too, anyway they turn them on way too early, I'm not talking about a block or two, I mean they turn the corner and put them on, a red light or two later they finally pick up the kids. What I think is they are trolling for the kids every block because it seems they pick them up different places every day

Problem is people see the yellow lights think the bus is stopping soon and slow down and leave the traffic behind them in the intersection with the light changed, so you end running a red and you have traffic coming against you.

I dread seeing these buses I don't want to run a stop so I slow down too and only contribute to the problem. Aren't they supposed to have set stops that are the same everyday?

21 posted on 08/28/2012 1:04:03 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: this_ol_patriot

Where I was driving, legally the stop had to be in the same place every day, and we were forbidden to pick up or drop off a kid anywhere but a designated stop. I once had to drive the “bad” route, that went into the low-income apartments where kids were lazy and arrogant (apples that hadn’t fallen far from the tree). Oftentimes the kids wouldn’t even come out of the house until the bus was about to leave, even though since it was the first stop, I had to wait something like 10 minutes there before I could leave. At any rate, one morning, after my usual 10-minute wait, I start pulling away, and am a good 50 yards or more beyond the stop, when a kid saunters out of her house, and walks in front of my bus to stop me so she could get on. Of course, as soon as she walked around to the side of the bus, I pulled away. The principle had to come onto the bus and read the kids the riot act because of the things they were saying. Although our bus company only had two or three cameras to move between buses to catch problems, that particular run always had a camera on it.


22 posted on 08/28/2012 2:31:44 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: PAR35
According to Texas law, drivers must come to a complete stop when they see a school bus with its red lights flashing.

That's a false statement of the law, but what can you expect from the media.

I see you make a habit of displaying your ignorance. What is 'false' about the statement?

23 posted on 09/02/2012 11:52:07 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: South40
What is 'false' about the statement?

A stalker, I see. And one who is willing to dig a bit.

Although I know it's not an honest question, I'll answer it anyway.

1. Just seeing a school bus with its lights flashing doesn't trigger the law. You have to be 'approaching' the school bus. So if you are on a cross street a block away, keep driving.

2. Even if you are approaching, if you are on a divided highway with a barrier or a median (but not a solid left turn lane) and you are traveling in the other direction, you don't have to stop.

Why don't you twitter for the rest.

It's like the liars that put up the billboards, "Drink, Drive, Go to Jail". They might hope that that would become the law, but that isn't what the law says.

Now go brag about yourself on twitter. Because if you don't, who will?

24 posted on 09/03/2012 7:45:16 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Your stupidity knows no bounds; why am I not surprised? You proved that in the other thread.

The law requires a driver stop if bus lights are flashing. Your extreme description of being a block away is the only way you could find an out for your moronic statement. So be it.

And I don't stalk anyone. I was interested to see if you have made other moronic statements in this forum and you did not disappoint. In my 11+ years at FR I have found you be the most moronic person I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Congratulations...you have proven that you really are that dumb.

Have a nice day, Stu

25 posted on 09/04/2012 1:29:22 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: South40

Come on now, don’t add lying to your sins.

“Have a nice day”? I don’t believe that you mean that.


26 posted on 09/04/2012 6:37:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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