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School: Teacher Helps Students Cheat Because She Says They’re ‘Dumb As Hell’
CBS Atlanta ^ | August 28, 2012 | CBS Atlanta

Posted on 08/28/2012 12:41:52 PM PDT by Robwin

A former fifth-grade teacher implicated in a cheating scandal reportedly gave students the illegal assistance because she thought they were “dumb as hell.”...

Schajuan Jones, who taught a fourth-grade class across the hall from Smith’s former room, overheard her talking to another teacher about the test.

“The words were, ‘I had to give your kids, or your students, the answers because they’re dumb as hell,’” Jones was quoted as saying about the interaction between Smith and the unidentified third teacher.

(Excerpt) Read more at atlanta.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: arth; atlanta; cheating; cheatingontests; ga; georgia; homeschool
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Yeah, I think that's about right when it comes to Atlanta's schools.
1 posted on 08/28/2012 12:41:57 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Robwin

Future Democrats in training.


2 posted on 08/28/2012 12:43:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Robwin

I would be wary of any teacher named “Schajuan”


3 posted on 08/28/2012 12:43:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Robwin

At least she’s honest...


4 posted on 08/28/2012 12:43:51 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Robwin

I agree with her diagnosis but question her perscription.


5 posted on 08/28/2012 12:44:40 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Robwin

said the teacher with the name created by a 5 year old


6 posted on 08/28/2012 12:45:24 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: jboot

The true reason for affirmative action?


7 posted on 08/28/2012 12:45:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PGR88

When somebody named Schajuan thinks you’re dumb, that’s pretty bad.


8 posted on 08/28/2012 12:45:29 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Robwin

“dumb as hell’ should apply to the entire school board for hiring miscreants like her as teachers.


9 posted on 08/28/2012 12:46:50 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: Robwin

Here is a related story with a picture of the dedicated teacher.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/19385169/aps-teacher-accused-in-crct-scandal-called-students-dumb-as-hell


10 posted on 08/28/2012 12:49:02 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: Robwin

One of Holder’s people.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 12:53:24 PM PDT by youngidiot (The name's Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jovi.)
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To: Robwin

...it’s because their parents...not to mention their “teachers”...are dumb as...well, you know.


12 posted on 08/28/2012 12:58:03 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Robwin

Wait’ll the government takes over health care.

I went to a Catholic school with about 1/4 the budget per student as NYC public schools and 48 students per teacher, but we could read and do sums.

This is pathetic.


13 posted on 08/28/2012 12:59:21 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Robwin

Sad but accurate.


14 posted on 08/28/2012 1:02:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I used to want to change the world. Now, I want to stop the world from changing me.)
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To: Robwin
‘I had to give your kids, or your students, the answers because they’re dumb as hell,’”

Rather than try to treat the symptoms, why not do something about the disease? Find out who was suppose to be teaching them their academics, and fire them.

(Support parential-based school choice.)

15 posted on 08/28/2012 1:04:28 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Robwin

Shayla Smith, the teacher whose children were accused of being "Dumb as hell".

16 posted on 08/28/2012 1:08:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Robwin

True story. I taught 6th grade math for part of one year in an ill advised attempt to start a new career. The previous teacher, one of Obama’s peeps, had a grade book and lesson plans she was supposed to turn over to me. She didn’t and kept making excuses as to why she hadn’t. In the meantime I learned that the kids’s could not do even 2nd or 3rd grade arithmetic. When the principal threatened the old teacher with disciplinary action if she didn’t turn over the records I got them. The grades were mostly As and Bs on quizzes, hw, and tests. The lesson plans followed the book. It was all BS. She made it up as she went along. The kids did whatever they wanted while she droned on at the front of the room. I gave them a test they had supposedly already had. None of them passed, the highest score was around 30. I told my supervisor and she said I had to pass them. Next test I worked the whole thing on the board the day before the class and grades were about the same. Next test I did the actual test on the board while they were supposed to be doing it. Only 2 or 3 passed and highest score was in the 60s. When I told my supervisor she gave me “busy work” sheets for the kids and told me to grade them. Even then over half the class was failing. I stuck it out to the end of they year but was extremely glad to get out of there. If you’re a parent, don’t, don’t, don’t send your kid to public school if you can at all help it. Public education is in far worse shape than even most of it’s critics realize.


17 posted on 08/28/2012 1:10:30 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Lazmataz

Betcha Laz would hit it....

18 posted on 08/28/2012 1:14:20 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’m not ready to say “not guilty”

but would recommend for a BJ Clinton Post-POTUS pardon


19 posted on 08/28/2012 1:16:45 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I must admit, I do find her candor somewhat refreshing.....I’m leaning towards “Not Guilty.”


20 posted on 08/28/2012 1:18:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Uncle Miltie

Whoa! Not guilty!!


21 posted on 08/28/2012 1:18:05 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Like the fist of an angry god!


22 posted on 08/28/2012 1:19:01 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1317 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: MtBaldy

If you gave the kids the answers to the test by working them on the board the day before, and still only had 3 pass, I would have to say that Ms. Smith’s assessment is dead on. Some kids, I might even venture to say most in these urban hell holes, really are dumb as hell.

That said, if these kids really are a lost cause, why bother to pay a unionized “educator” upwards of 60K plus benefits when all you get is a highly paid babysitter? Why not just hire the babysitter?


23 posted on 08/28/2012 1:20:42 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Uncle Miltie

Daaaayyyyyuuuummmm !


24 posted on 08/28/2012 1:35:34 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Robwin
Schajuan Jones, who taught a fourth-grade class across the hall from Smith’s former room, overheard her talking to another teacher about the test. “The words were, ‘I had to give your kids, or your students, the answers because they’re dumb as hell,’” Jones was quoted as saying about the interaction between Smith and the unidentified third teacher.

The students weren't the only dumb as hell ones in that room.

25 posted on 08/28/2012 1:37:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: NativeSon
said the teacher with the name created by a 5 year old

The usual method of 'soul' name generation is to draw a spoonful from a bowl of alphabet soup and to use the letters in the spoon to create the name. There are certain rules allowing one or more substitutions to create a name that keeps it real, but I can't recall them.

26 posted on 08/28/2012 1:39:01 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt
The usual method of 'soul' name generation is to draw a spoonful from a bowl of alphabet soup and to use the letters in the spoon to create the name. Or Random letters from Scrabble


27 posted on 08/28/2012 1:41:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

She most be one of the Atlanta teachers that didn’t give the students the test answers.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 1:42:39 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Robwin

Just think - some of these “dumb as hell” kids are going to be getting into college based on their inflated grades and fake CRCT scores. Heck, if the grades were inflated to a B, they’ll even have “Hope” scholarships.

And my kids, who go to a decent school and have to work for their grades, will have to compete against them for placement. And these losers will have advantages like race and being “disadvantaged.”

Just think how much damage these swine are doing to our education system. They just keeping digging the hole deeper.


29 posted on 08/28/2012 1:43:26 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I went to a Catholic school with about 1/4 the budget per student as NYC public schools and 48 students per teacher, but we could read and do sums.

So did I. What percentage of students had intact families? (let me guess - 90% or higher)

My daughter teaches 3rd grade in an upscale suburb here in Indiana. She has 40% intact families. Imagine what that number is in urban shools. Asking public schools to fix a "great society" problem is a fools task.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 1:45:47 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Little Ray
some of these “dumb as hell” kids are going to be getting into college based on their inflated grades and fake CRCT scores..

If they can run a 4.4 40 and catch the ball, you bet they will.

31 posted on 08/28/2012 1:47:27 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: PGR88

Schajuan wasn’t the guilty teacher—she was testifying against the one who gave the kids the answers, Shayla.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 1:55:18 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Uncle Miltie

Kelly Roland wanna be!
33 posted on 08/28/2012 1:58:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: nascarnation
What percentage of students had intact families? (let me guess - 90% or higher)

Honestly, I think it was much closer to 98%. I know of one kid who was raised by his grandmother and who was a constant discipline problem - in the class two years ahead of mine! They used to tell us that his father was a "merchant seaman". Also my little sister had a friend who lived with only her mother, the details of her father's absence were never clear to me.

34 posted on 08/28/2012 1:59:17 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Robwin

This is the self-fulfilling prophecy of inner city public schools.

The assumptions is the kids are dumb or don’t want to learn, so the teacher doesn’t even try to teach them. Result: the kids don’t learn anything and so they teacher’s bias about the kids being dumb becomes a reality.

This is REAL racism, and it’s practiced by the left on a daily basis.


35 posted on 08/28/2012 2:03:30 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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‘I had to give your kids, or your students, the answers because they’re dumb as hell,’...

Dumb, hell! They are culturally deprived, raised in an atmosphere where showing an interest in school puts you at risk of being beaten up by your peers for "acting white". Raised by parents who put little or no value on education.

A few years down the road, they'll be able to calculate the dealer markup on the drugs they sell just fine, thank you! They'll be able to game the system six ways to Sunday, too.

36 posted on 08/28/2012 2:12:27 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Robwin; wintertime

“They’re ‘Dumb As Hell’”

Help me out here. Is she referring to the teachers, or the ones that choose the curricula, the administrators. Just who?

Surely not the students who have no say in trying to control a system designed to ASSURE that they never get off of welfare.


37 posted on 08/28/2012 2:14:02 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

>>The usual method of ‘soul’ name generation is to draw a spoonful from a bowl of alphabet soup and to use the letters in the spoon to create the name. There are certain rules allowing one or more substitutions to create a name that keeps it real, but I can’t recall them.

I end up posting this a lot here, and it would seem to be appropriate for this thread. It’s South African comedian Trevor Noah on Leno, and he’s funny as all get out while really taking American blacks to task over that stuff.

http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/trevor-noah-stand-up-1612/1377327


38 posted on 08/28/2012 2:21:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JimRed

100% on Free and Reduced meal program.

Each has 10 pairs of shoes.

When asked what they want to be when they grow up, “Ho” and “Pimp” are normal answers.

Using “career” in a test flummoxes the whole class.

Dad is most likely in prison, or not home for other reasons.

Obesity is the most common health problem.


39 posted on 08/28/2012 2:23:46 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
"I might even venture to say most in these urban hell holes, really are dumb as hell."

I would say more likely the problem with most of these kids is they were never taught "how to learn."

I bet no one ever read to them much when they were little. (We read to our daughter every night from the day we brought her home from the hospital till she was in the 3rd grade when she told us she was too old for such baby stuff. She is a constant reader always wanting new books from Amazon!)

If kids aren't taught to love reading books they won't. And if they won't read its hard to keep up in school. We always made a game out of math, riding in cars waiting in line etc. We even did basic math in Spanish (Very broken Spanish but she could add and subtract using Spanish numbers, now she is fairly fluent speaking it.)

We never forced her to learn we made it a natural part of everyday life. And I bet most of these so-called Dumb kids can operate a cell phone and are fluent in "texteese" and I bet they can finish a Xbox game in under a week. and that tells me they are not dumb, they just haven't been taught how to learn in school. Its a failure of the school system AND the parents/family.

40 posted on 08/28/2012 2:25:51 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

But mainly because in their “culture”, reading is a “white thing”, and isn’t considered “keepin’ it real.”


41 posted on 08/28/2012 2:27:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Don’t miss the vid in #38.


42 posted on 08/28/2012 2:29:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dfwgator
"But mainly because in their “culture”, reading is a “white thing”, and isn’t considered “keepin’ it real.”

Oh, please tell me you are kidding because if not that is about the saddest thing I've ever heard. I cannot begin to understand anyone with such a mindset. Please tell me that this is not a popular frame of mind of inner city culture.

43 posted on 08/28/2012 2:32:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: null and void
Like the fist of an angry god!

She would cut you before the evening was over.

44 posted on 08/28/2012 3:07:14 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Please tell me that this is not a popular frame of mind of inner city culture.

OK, we won't tell you. But from everything I've been reading, "acting white" academically will not make you popular in the inner city.

45 posted on 08/28/2012 3:17:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: A CA Guy

Shayla Smith, in this picture, was fired for giving the kids answers because they were “dumb as hell”. I think a good private school should give her a look. If she can speak English and pass a 4th grade math test, hire her!


46 posted on 08/28/2012 3:20:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To all my relatives and former friends: Do not contact me if you still love obama.)
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To: Robwin

What’s the problem? She’s just doing her job.


47 posted on 08/28/2012 3:21:04 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PapaBear3625; Lazamataz; Uncle Miltie

Me??? Aw Hell naw!

I was answering Uncle Milties’s question about Laz!


48 posted on 08/28/2012 3:22:30 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1317 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Robwin; Slings and Arrows

Makes sense, don't it? The smart kids didn't get those grades themselves.

49 posted on 08/28/2012 3:48:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Robwin

Given the problems they have in Atlanta gubmint skoolz, while insulting, it may have been true.


50 posted on 08/28/2012 6:25:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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