Posted on 08/30/2012 11:47:00 AM PDT by moonshot925
You neglect to indicate that your SEPTEMBER 30, 2009 number of 11 trillion is about 9 months AFTER Obama took office....are you some kind of troll?
Who was in charge of the purse after January of 2007?
Note the last two years, when it really exploded, was when the Rats had taken control of Congress.
Fiscal Year 2009 ran from 1 October 2008 to 30 September 2009.
This was President Bush’s last budget.
He is responsible.
I’d take a good chunk of that last $1.8 billion out since Obama took over and passed more spending bills in early 2009 but even if you do, you are right. Lyndon Baines Bush never tried to get spending under control. While he did several things right, he was a Rockefeller Republican just like his daddy when it came to spending and entitlements. There is no getting around it. And the “Republican” Congress he had until 2007 went along with it. It completely undermined the Republican message and set the stage for disaster and Obama.
moonshot925
Since May 19, 2012
Spending bills originate in congress, look at the big jump in 2008 when the dems took over. The budgets prior, while still far too much, were rather flat in comparison.
True. But in 4 years, Obama has increased the national debt by almost as much as Bush increased it in 8 years. So neither is reducing the debt, but the Dems are increasing it twice as fast.
Duh....Obama has amassed more debt in four years than Bush 43 did in eight. Wanna estimate what BO will ring up in 8 years, should we be cursed with his second term?
Bush isn’t on the ballot.
The Democrats are big socialist spenders. There is no doubt about it.
But Republicans had control of the House and Senate from January 2001 to January 2009.
There is no reason the debt should have skyrocketed under their leadership.
I am just pointing out that the past 3 GOP Presidents have been big spenders.
So nice try Obamabot but no sale.
didn’t the democrats take control in 2006?
Does this figure take Obama’s 2009 stimulus into account?
The Republicans had control of the House and Senate until January 2007. That is what I meant.
Congress makes the budget.
No, they have not. Our current candidate has no plans to be any different. We had a choice during the primary season.
There was no approved budget under Obama as far as I’m aware. They have been operating under CRAs for virtually his entire administrations and HE is responsible for the Trillion Plus deficits each year since then. Add to that the TARP, QEs and all the rest and you have a debt explosion. Add the fact that the Republicans were not in control since 2007.
While Republicans are indeed fiscally irresponsible, the problem is Obama and the Democrats and that’s why I think your post is disingenuous.
Yes I made a typo.
So nice try Obamabot but as usual completely divorced for any measure of intellectual honesty
And the purpose is WHY?
Who was in charge of the veto pen/pocket and bully pulpit thus spelling out that government will be shut down until some adults can send up a responsible budget for that particular executive to sign off to?
No they haven’t. And I don’t expect Romney to do a whole lot better. But Obama’s been running up the debt at twice the clip that Bush had. So if you’re heading towards a brick wall, do you want to be in the car doing 50 miles an hour towards it or the one doing 25?
With a 5-19-2012 sign up date...?
None of the 0bama stimulus spending (IIRC totaling ~1.5 trillion) was included in any of Bush’s budgets.
I was just thinking about what the GOP did when they had control.
Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind and more domestic programs.
It skyrocketed our national debt.
Ah I see, so as usual the Obamabot poster wants to totally ignore what the Democrat Congress did in the vain hope they can distracted and deflect attention off the complete irresponsibility of their Democrat party idols with the people’s check book
Oh, and Obama isn't, Newbie?
Check my subtraction but that sure looks like $4,898,681,252,731.51 difference to me.
I hate to quibble about a mere $1.2 Trillion or so, but...
There was a deficit but clearly 0bama didn’t do what he should have done
to fix it. HE MADE IT WORSE!
You would be better off at kos.
This is a conservative site.
Note the last two years, when it really exploded, was when the Rats had taken control of Congress.
Isn’t that also when the Recession started? We the hell don’t the Repubs talk about DAT?!!!
The GOP lost control of Congress in the 2006 elections. So if you cannot be bothered to get even the most basic facts right, we have no reason to listen to your rabidly ignorant posting.
I smell ozone in your further 0bama tool.
I voted for President Bush twice and McCain in 2008.
But I just don’t think the GOP has really been fiscally conservative at all.
That does NOT make me a fan of Obama.
There are conservatives that have signed up recently and I’d not ordinarily condemn them because of a date.
However, I see no point in this article that gives ‘facts’ that have been not been explained. I see no purpose but to foment dissatisfaction with Bush and therefore Republicans, in general, now. Yes, GOPe Republicans have been spendthrifts...are we supposed to translate this to “Romney/Ryan” will do the same now?
Last GOP and Bush Budget. Federal Deficit 2006 $160 billion
Last Democrat Congress and O budget. Federal Deficit 2010 1.6 trillion
So rather then keep mindlessly propagandizing for the Obama Democrats, take the time to learn even the most basic facts.
So President Bush is responsible for a trillion dollars of wasted stimulus spending during 2009, while he was sitting in his Texas home? Is he responsible for spending bills and GM takeovers that took place after Obama was inaugerated. Following your logic, he might as well be responsible for 2012 spending too.
I won’t argue they increased debt. I’m as much pi$$ed off at the GOPe as anybody...I’ve even dissed Bush on DHS and TSA and neglect of the economy. But I see no purpose for this at this point in time. All the circumstances surrounding events after 2007 are highly subjective and political as hell, and your numbers don’t take that into account.
>The GOP has not been fiscally responsible.
No question. Best you can say is they are the only ones who are willing to hint at the big problem which is entitlement reform. They certainly can’t broach raising taxes without getting hammered. Soon as you can get some real strength of showing among voters with an alternative that is not the Democratic party (at least todays Democratic party), give us a shout.
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
That's a $4.350 Trillion increase over 8 years under Bush.
Compared to $15,950 trillion debt now. An increase under Obama of $5.926 Trillion in just under 4 years.
However, Obama inherited Bush's Drug Plan which wasn't really reflected in Bush's numbers. Obama also inherited a Financial crisis which dropped Gov't Revenues while driving outlays up. He inherited Tarp but that was paid back. Obama did not inherit the Stimulus program, that was all Obama.
And Obama's numbers for 4 years don't reflect most of the costs for Obamacare which won't really start hitting until next year.
From January 2001 to January 2007.
The Repubs controlled both the House and Senate.
And domestic spending skyrocketed.
Or DU. Which I suspect he's hiding. Somehow, I don't think this Newbie's screen name refers to our 1969 moon, landing but another kind of "moonshot" he's giving us...
Yup, pretty much.. and has been called out on it for a few months.. guess the admin likes a chew toy for us.. but I just ignore troll posts (unless absolutely necessary to post a troll pic or something ;~) )
You need to study up a little bit. Democrats took the house and senate in 2006, and took office in january 2007.
Nor did I. I took the signup date and the nature of the post both into consideration. My "sniffer" is working overtime...
FY 2008 = 1,017,071,524,650 FY 2009 = 1,885,104,106,599
Add them up! They’re ~2 trillion, all by the RAT Congress, what do you say to that?
There’s a Trolley Bus stop right around the corner of FR building.
Why do so many citizens not know our Constitution? Congress controls the spending, the President carries it out.
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