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Sony Introduces 84" 4K LCD TV: New Era of Consumer Video Begins.
xbitlabs.com ^ | 08/29/2012 11:50 PM | Anton Shilov

Posted on 09/01/2012 12:38:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sony Corp. has announced that it will begin the phased launch of its latest Bravia LCD television in all global regions from the end of the year. The new Bravia boasts a 84" LCD panel with 4K (3840*2160) resolution. The TV incorporates Sony's “4K X-Reality Pro” super-resolution high picture quality engine. Sony follows LG Electronics with its 4K ultra high-definition TV-set (UHDTV) and both are driving the new level of visual perfection to the masses.

The new 84” Bravia 4K LCD TV comes equipped with a panel comprising approximately 8.29 megapixels (52 ppi), which is 4 times the resolution of Full HD standard, and incorporates special 4K X-Reality Pro video processor optimized for 4K TV. This engine is capable of upconverting a variety of content (including that in stereo-3D) with different resolutions, such as HD digital broadcasts or Blu-ray discs content, into crisp, high-quality images with 4K resolution. The UDHTV also comes with "10 unit live speaker" 50W side speaker system, with Sony's own signal-processing technology to provide accurate three-dimensional sound.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hdtv; hitech; sony; television; tv
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1 posted on 09/01/2012 12:38:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I might like one of these ....after they come down in price....

Would make a heck of a monitor....browsing from 10 feet away.

2 posted on 09/01/2012 12:42:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I love my 37” Visio HD. We sit close enough to where it fits our vision nicely. And it fits perfectly in our entertainment center. There’s only one problem; nothing worth watching.

An 84” TV? We’d have to rearrange a lot of deck chairs to get that to fit in.


3 posted on 09/01/2012 12:45:05 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: bcsco

How do you back pedal Pythagorus to get an idea what an 84 inch might be in the real world ?


4 posted on 09/01/2012 12:47:37 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tags: Sony, Playstation, Orbis, HEVC, H.265, MPEG, UHD, UHDTV


5 posted on 09/01/2012 12:48:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: bcsco
I'm at 32" so I am dreaming big.....

My daughter has a Sony 55" hanging on a wall....I think an 84" would cove a better chunk of it.

6 posted on 09/01/2012 12:51:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
TYPO correction:

would cover a better --

7 posted on 09/01/2012 12:53:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a 55”. I can’t imagine an 84”; it would be too large for my living room.


8 posted on 09/01/2012 12:55:23 PM PDT by ContraryMary (Obama -- Inept and Out of His Depth)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
84" 4K LCD TV
Will FLY out of the stores just like the 3D models. Oh wait ...
9 posted on 09/01/2012 12:59:04 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ve had a 54 incher for 2 years now and I can’t imagine ever going with anything smaller. I’ve got it in a small room too. I just measured it and the screen is exactly 5’ from the front edge of my couch. I would not have a problem upgrading to an 84 incher in that same space.


10 posted on 09/01/2012 1:00:00 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We live in a bungalow. We’d have to eliminate the entertainment center. Even then, the wall space is limited.

No insurmountable issue except, the top of the entertainment center is where the Christmas village goes during the Christmas season. We have no other viable place to put it. And we like it there. One answer would be a lower, credenza style unit below the TV. But that’s throwing extra money into simply upgrading your TV. Maybe even close to what the TV would cost. I think I’ll wait...


11 posted on 09/01/2012 1:00:35 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I say you put this on your dock.


12 posted on 09/01/2012 1:04:07 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: knarf

According to my TV screen comparison spreadsheet an 84 inch 16:9 TV would have a screen about 73 inches wide, 42 in height. If viewing a program in the old 4:3 ratio it would be the equivalent of a ~ 68 inch TV.


13 posted on 09/01/2012 1:07:25 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
52 dots per inch?

No, thanks, I'll keep my 32" 1080P.

14 posted on 09/01/2012 1:18:51 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I bet the lag between audio and visual on these beasts in UHDTV mode across satellite will be untenable. I know when I first got my HDTV, there was a 3 second delay between audio and visual and it made watching TV painful. They finally had to implement buffering to fix the problem. This is going to drive us back towards much bigger dishes, because a 60% signal quality simply wont cut it.


15 posted on 09/01/2012 1:55:12 PM PDT by RainMan (After 4 years of Hope and Change America needs a little R&R)
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To: ContraryMary

I have a 60”, and could see going to 70”, but beyond that it starts to be a space issue. 80”+ TVs are HUGE - something you ought to have a pretty big room for, which most people don’t have.


16 posted on 09/01/2012 3:18:13 PM PDT by MCH
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To: knarf
How do you back pedal Pythagorus to get an idea what an 84 inch might be in the real world ?

84 = (W2+H2)1/2   Doesn't help much unless you know the relationship between W & H.

In the case of HD TV the aspect ratio relates screen width (W) and screen height (H) as 16:9 or 1.78:1 which is independent of screen size. This ratio was a compromise between the old 1.33 AR which was utilized by "standard" TV and dates back all the way to the AR of 35MM film. The 1.78 AR was adopted prior to the flat screens now in wide use and was designed to minimize the cost to manufacture HD vacuum tubes. Since vacuum tube displays have virtually disappeared and the choice was locked in to the technical specifications, we are stuck with 1.78 until the "next big thing" in TV hits the scene (holographic displays?).

Why do I say "stuck"? Because 1.78 does not fit any of the aspect ratios currently in use for motion pictures. Original format movies are 1.33, 1.85 "flat", 2.40 (anamorphic), and 2.35 (Panavision). None of these formats will display with out distortion on a 1.78 AR screen. The answer is either to over-scan the picture and clip the parts that don't fit, or to display some black area at top and bottom and both sides.

Since manufactures are no longer constrained by the economics of manufacturing vacuum tubes their flat screen products do not necessarily follow the 1.78 AR rigidly and therefore calculations based on 16/9 should be considered approximations. OK? so hear goes;

We know that 84=(W2+H2)1/2   and we are guessing the W/H = 16/9 therefore we can say that;
W/H = 1.78 or W = 1.78H further W2 = (1.78H)2 therefore;
84 = ((1.78H)2+H2)1/2

H = 84/((1.782 + 12)1/2

H = 41.14" and W = 1.78H = 73.23"
Assuming AR = 16/9

Proof:
D =(41.142+73.232)1/2
  = (1692.4996 + 5362.6329)1/2
  = 83.9948"

Regards,
GtG

PS It took a while to shake the cobwebs out but it's pretty much straight algebra.

17 posted on 09/01/2012 3:31:00 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Just ..

day-um, Gandy !

But, thanx

(heard being muttered .. "Hey Ralph .. someone actually KNOWS that shit")

18 posted on 09/01/2012 3:42:38 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; ...

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19 posted on 09/01/2012 3:43:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (".....All 57 states (or is it 58?) must stand together and defeat O'bozo!.....")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Drooling here.


20 posted on 09/01/2012 3:51:43 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

The screen resolution gives you the aspect ratio.


21 posted on 09/01/2012 3:55:49 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: bcsco

A 37” can’t give you a headache. I have a 52” and I like to sit real close.


22 posted on 09/01/2012 3:57:49 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Europen version cost 25,000 euros or $31,000.

Now if 4k is out of the budget and you want a BIGGER screen Sharp sells a 90" model (Sharp LC-90LE745U) for $10,000 give or take a few bucks here and there.

23 posted on 09/01/2012 4:08:03 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: knarf; Gandalf_The_Gray
Dang, you guys are slow, see Post #13. By the way Gandalf, your math checks out. :)
24 posted on 09/01/2012 4:08:33 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Mamzelle

We’ve had this for over 2 years. No problems. We sit about 8’ away.


25 posted on 09/01/2012 4:13:48 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Frank’s 2000” TV”

Risin’ above the city, blocking out the noonday sun
It dwarfs the mighty redwoods and it towers over everyone
I still remember when that delivery truck came down our block
What a lucky guy, I hear he got the last one in stock
And the neighbors are just green
They say, “That’s the biggest screen we’ve ever seen!”

It’s Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Everbody come and see(Frank’s 2000” TV)
Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)

That’s Frank’s remote control, you can look, but don’t touch it, please
‘Cause Frank’s the one in charge and he decides what everybody sees
The picture’s crystal clear and everything is magnified
Robert DeNiro’s mole has got to be ten feet wide
Everybody in the town
Can hear those 90,000 watts of Dolby sound
And I’m mighty proud to say
Now I can watch “The Simpsons” from thirty blocks away

On Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Everybody come and see (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Everybody come and see (Frank’s 2000” TV)

I’m gonna get one of my own real soon
It’s like having a drive-in movie in your own living room
Whoa, hey now... hey now na na na now
Hey now... hey now na na now

Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Everybody come and see (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Got a two year warranty on parts and labor
Frank’s 2000” TV (Frank’s 2000” TV)
Frank’s 2000” TV

-Weird Al Yankovic


26 posted on 09/01/2012 4:16:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: All

when my wife and I got married, we had a 27” tube TV that weighed about 150lbs. then we got a 52” and she kept saying it was “too big” and she never “noticed a difference”. Then the 52” broke and she had to deal with the 27” and she complained. Then we went shopping and she was looking at the 60” models and when we settled for 58” (due to room size), she complained that it might not be big enough.

The next one will probably be in the 80” category..


27 posted on 09/01/2012 4:17:39 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I might like one of these ....after they come down in price....

My wife wants a new car but she may just have to wait.

Just kidding dear.

Maybe….

28 posted on 09/01/2012 4:24:19 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ContraryMary

84 inches would be nice in my living room, but I have a 106 inch projection system in my home theater (dedicated room) and it isn’t quite big enough.

Not that I’m complaining....
The bigger the better, as long as the picture quality is there.

Cheers,
Jim


29 posted on 09/01/2012 4:30:22 PM PDT by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (limit one per customer))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh God.

Now I have to change my underwear.

30 posted on 09/01/2012 4:32:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: newnhdad

LOL. We have several TVs, one is HD. Sometimes my wife will go to the den and flip to the channel number she knows... in 4:3 format, refusing to add 500 to the channel number to get the wide-screen version. She says it doesn’t make any real difference to her. I give up.


31 posted on 09/01/2012 4:35:28 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a 42 Vizo & that’s enough for me. Lol, I don’t have enough wall space for an 84.


32 posted on 09/01/2012 4:41:52 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Las Vegas Dave

That’s a big un, $4000 is a lot, but it shows how much the price of these screens has fallen per sq inch.


33 posted on 09/01/2012 4:44:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: knarf
"How do you back pedal Pythagorus to get an idea what an 84 inch might be in the real world ?"

It's worse than that.....you also have to take the "aspect ratio" into account. Using the diagonal only made sense as long as all TV's had the same aspect ratio.

I wish TV (and monitor) vendors would come into the 21st century and drop the danged diagonal measurement and state the spec as LXWXH. Or at least include that info as well as the diagonal.

34 posted on 09/01/2012 5:06:09 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: bcsco

You can find what you want to watch on the internet.


35 posted on 09/01/2012 5:46:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: mamelukesabre
I’ve had a 54 incher for 2 years now and I can’t imagine ever going with anything smaller.

When anyone ever asks me my advice on TV's, I always tell them that whatever they decide to buy, go with a bigger one........

They usually follow my advice and never regret it........

36 posted on 09/01/2012 5:47:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: ContraryMary

In my office, I could imagine it.


37 posted on 09/01/2012 5:48:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I wish TV (and monitor) vendors would come into the 21st century and drop the danged diagonal measurement and state the spec as LXWXH.

I agree...... I have a custom made cabinet in my den and I'm constantly checking out new TV's for it while forgetting that it will only accomodate a maximum Height and Width dimensions regardless of screen size.......

38 posted on 09/01/2012 5:56:42 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Oooooohhhhhhh nooooooo. Who would have believed all of this?


39 posted on 09/01/2012 5:56:51 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms.)
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To: gymbeau
I'm waiting for a consumer version of this baby to come out. It'll be a must have item.

40 posted on 09/01/2012 5:59:14 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

My parents have a 36” tube type TV. When they bought that I thought “what the heck do you want that monstrosity for?” Now I have a 54 inch flat screen and I think they are complete fools. My TV before my 54” was a 21”(?) tube type. I gave it to my parents and they put it in their spare room. I’m actually thinking about giving them my 54” flatscreen and buying a new TV at least 70”.


41 posted on 09/01/2012 6:14:05 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: ken in texas

yea.. “why is this so fuzzy?”.. umm, you need to go to the HD channel honey.. then she claims the same thing.. “I can’t tell the difference” but she tells me the difference.

it’s a work in progress.


42 posted on 09/01/2012 7:00:34 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: dfwgator

I remember taking my wife to Crazy Eddie’s back in 1987 to look for a new TV and coming home with a Hitachi 50” rear projection TV, just because it looked so cool back in that dark display room where we first laid eyes on it. Thing lasted almost 5 years and only needed a $400 repair once.


43 posted on 09/01/2012 7:07:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Suppose you’re flipping through channels and you see a full face picture of say, Rosanne Barr, with every nose hair in super HD. Then what? You’d never be the same.


44 posted on 09/01/2012 7:14:42 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: newnhdad; ken in texas

It is interesting how some people notice a real contrast between regular and HD. I am one of those who doesn’t see it. Friend of mine gave me a Blu-Ray player and set the whole thing up and exclaimed, “You won’t believe the difference!” So he popped in a Blu-Ray disc and was practically jumping up and down at how awesome the picture was. “Is that great or what?” “Wow, that’s cool!,” I replied as I pretended to notice a diffference.

(shrug)

I just don’t see it. But then, I don’t much give a crap about “crystal clarity” as long as the story and acting are good and the picture is reasonably clear and steady. Heck, I still enjoy grainy old black-and-white films just fine, too. To each his own, I guess.


45 posted on 09/01/2012 7:17:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm not getting such a TV until a standard for 3840 x 2160 video either through cable/over-air transmission or through an upgraded Blu-ray player is finalized.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying football on my 40" Sony flat panel TV right now.

46 posted on 09/01/2012 8:22:38 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

I sure hope Michigan wasn’t your team tonight. Ouch!


47 posted on 09/01/2012 8:24:02 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: ken in texas; Future Snake Eater
Dang, you guys are slow, see Post #13. By the way Gandalf, your math checks out. :)

The screen resolution gives you the aspect ratio.

Thanks for pointing that out! I needed the practice and math like anything else slips away if you don't use it now and again...

Regards,
GtG

48 posted on 09/01/2012 8:57:01 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Lancey Howard
I just don’t see it.

I think Sears or somebody has a two pair for the price of one on this week, may I suggest you visit their optometrist.

I have a 55 inch TV I am using for a computer monitor, just visit a few YouTube links and set the resolution as you like, if you don't see the difference then you are functionally blind and should not drive a car. :)

49 posted on 09/01/2012 11:27:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: itsahoot
I have a 55 inch TV I am using for a computer monitor

LMBO!!! And you think I'm blind?
During my vacation this week I got by with a little iPod Touch for my internet. (Okay - I did do that 'spread-out-two-fingers-to-make-the-letters-bigger' thing, but hey.. )

50 posted on 09/01/2012 11:38:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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