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Gun Talk Radio 9/2/12
Gun Talk ^ | 9-2-12 | Tom Gresham

Posted on 09/02/2012 5:21:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog

 

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1 posted on 09/02/2012 5:21:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

pow!


2 posted on 09/02/2012 5:23:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I left my Springfield 1911 in my garage one night and the next day it had a light rust coating on it. What is the best way to safely remove the rust. No pits.


3 posted on 09/02/2012 5:24:27 PM PDT by shankbear (If this mandate can stand, what will be next? Forced to buy certain cars, clothes, food?)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey Frog, thanks for the pingaroo!


4 posted on 09/02/2012 5:29:04 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: shankbear

Not sure.

Maybe soak it in some penetrating oil?

Alternatively, you could just get a Glock. ;-)


5 posted on 09/02/2012 5:29:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: davetex

gotta go eat supper

BBL


6 posted on 09/02/2012 5:33:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t really engage in the Glock/1911 banter. My gun was a gift and I thought this was a source for real information. Next...


7 posted on 09/02/2012 5:39:36 PM PDT by shankbear (If this mandate can stand, what will be next? Forced to buy certain cars, clothes, food?)
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To: shankbear
Found this on eHow. Sounds reasonable.

Rub a soft cotton cloth over the rusted area with a gun solvent. Do not scrub, just apply gentle pressure to remove rust. Wipe off when done and wipe on a fresh coat of oil to protect it.

8 posted on 09/02/2012 5:48:11 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: smokingfrog

I got a story.

I inherited my Grandfathers Win 1897 12ga back in the 70’s. I used it for bird hunting for a couple of years and then noticed the fit-up between the barrel and receiver was a little sloppy. So I retired it and put it in the closet for 30 years.

In the last few years I’ve seen the 97’s discussed on other gun forums and read with interest. Well yesterday morning I ran across another 97 thread on The High Road. A guy was asking about it and one of the knowledgeable responders asked if it was a solid frame or a take-down.

Take-down???? I had never run across that. So I looked at you tube and sure enough mine is a take-down. That explained the sloppy fit. So I took it apart and now I think it will be a fine functioning gun.

Also looked up the serial # and found the manufacturing date to be 1898-1899!!

So now I’m cleaning it and ordering some parts for it to get it back in good shape. It fits nicely in a carbine case.

I didn’t know my Grandpa had it when he was alive, so I never got to talk to him about it. And it is a John Moses Browning design!


9 posted on 09/02/2012 5:53:02 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Thank you very much.


10 posted on 09/02/2012 5:53:11 PM PDT by shankbear (If this mandate can stand, what will be next? Forced to buy certain cars, clothes, food?)
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To: shankbear

Shank,

Had the same thing happen to me. I used a fine steel wool pad (0000) and a light machine oil and buffed the rust out with no damage to the firearm. Actually, it looks pretty good for an old timer. The bluing has faded quite a bit over the years but my 1911 Browning is just as reliable as ever. It just needs a little more TLC in its old age.


11 posted on 09/02/2012 5:56:04 PM PDT by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: davetex

This is the gun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrNFle6ICCI


12 posted on 09/02/2012 5:56:08 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: shankbear

For more stubborn surface rust, my Dad always used a little gun oil and some really really fine steel wool, applied with a light touch. It worked for him, but I’ve always been too chicken to use steel wool on my guns.


13 posted on 09/02/2012 5:58:26 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: davetex

davetex, that is SO cool! Aren’t ya glad you’ve hung on to it for all these years?


14 posted on 09/02/2012 6:03:03 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: davetex

And this is my Grandfather before he retired.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txellis/photos/dykes-01.jpg

He traveled all over Ellis County tending to farmers medical needs. I’m pretty sure he accepted the gun as a barter deal as a lot of his patients didn’t have any money.


15 posted on 09/02/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Yes, I am glad. I almost sold it a year ago as junk!!??

Now I have a great project.


16 posted on 09/02/2012 6:08:09 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: davetex

Good deal!


17 posted on 09/02/2012 6:12:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Thanks for the info. Trying the cloth and oil this evening.


18 posted on 09/02/2012 6:14:24 PM PDT by shankbear (If this mandate can stand, what will be next? Forced to buy certain cars, clothes, food?)
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To: davetex; smokingfrog

As soon as I take the dogs out one more time, and settle them down for the night, I’ll give y’all a range report and a couple of pictures of my recent purchase.


19 posted on 09/02/2012 6:14:31 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: smokingfrog; mylife

Thanks for the ping frog!

I noticed that mylife has been slacking off a little over the last couple of weeks. :)

Thanks to the advice of my FReeper friends here on the Gun Talk Radio thread, I went ahead and got that slug gun I was looking at.

Will put up some pics here in a moment.


20 posted on 09/02/2012 6:18:58 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Looking forward to it deo!!


21 posted on 09/02/2012 6:24:13 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey, sf, thanks for the ping. Just getting in from chores and rain. Better late than never.


22 posted on 09/02/2012 6:24:19 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Wouldn’t bronze wool be better than steel wool?

Some people swear by Kroil or Eezox, but I have never tried either one.


23 posted on 09/02/2012 6:26:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: davetex

That 97 is sweet.


24 posted on 09/02/2012 6:27:42 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: smokingfrog
It's a slightly used Rossi Model S121230S single shot 12 gauge with 3" chamber. 23" button rifled barrel with factory porting. Installed a hammer extension, scope base, Weaver quad rings, a cheap 3-9x40 Barksa scope, and a sling. All together I've got less than $275 in the rig.

I've bore sighted it with a laser but haven't had time to get it out to the range yet. I've read a number of stories of guys using this gun and Remington "AccuTip" sabot slugs to consistently bring deer down at more than 200 yards.

It's only September and I've already got buck fever!

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The last photo is a little blurry. Was just trying to show the porting.

25 posted on 09/02/2012 6:28:00 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: 2111USMC

ooops! I just sucked down all the bandwidth from here to California with my oversize pictures.

Sorry.


26 posted on 09/02/2012 6:31:09 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: 2111USMC

That should take down your average deer with no problem.

How heavy is it?


27 posted on 09/02/2012 6:35:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Glocks are dishwasher safe :-)


28 posted on 09/02/2012 6:36:33 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: davetex

Can you use modern shotgun shells in a gun that age?


29 posted on 09/02/2012 6:37:15 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: smokingfrog

Yep, I bet some really fine bronze wool would do the trick, and not leave a trace of its’ use behind.


30 posted on 09/02/2012 6:40:27 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: smokingfrog

With the scope it’s about 8 lbs.

(Seems heavier than that when you pick it up.)


31 posted on 09/02/2012 6:44:08 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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Grocery store run.

BBL


32 posted on 09/02/2012 6:48:18 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: 2111USMC

That is a very nice slug gun. I like it and would have bought it too.

As far as using modern shot shells in a 97, I did 35 years ago. And I’ve read 2 3/4 light load shells should be fine.

I doubt I’ll be shooting it anyway, I just want to fix it up real nice. Make my Grandpa proud.


33 posted on 09/02/2012 6:50:50 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: davetex; smokingfrog; Clint N. Suhks; 2111USMC; mylife
A few weeks ago I mentioned that I was going to look for a used CZ75B when the gun show came to town. Well, it came! The only CZ75 I saw was a tactical version at about $1200, and I didn't even slow down as I walked by.

I had walked throught almost the whole gun show, and was about to give up, when I spotted a seller with a used CZ82, which of course is chambered in 9x18 Makarov. Long story short, it's now mine.

Fuzzy, cause I tried to get too close with a cheap camera! lol

34 posted on 09/02/2012 7:00:48 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
I was out the door with the whole she-bang for $295. Bore is bright and beautiful. Slide is smooth. Very little external wear.


35 posted on 09/02/2012 7:05:45 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Deo, you got a heck of a sweet deal on the CZ.

The holster looks brand new too.


36 posted on 09/02/2012 7:12:31 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: davetex
Yeah, when he was pulling everything together, and I saw a spare mag and the sweet looking holster, that sealed the deal!

Here's the first 10 rounds I ever fired from this little CZ. It took a little getting used to matching up "point of aim" with "point of impact", but I was getting better as I went along.

From 7 yards, offhand, with Fiocchi ball ammo.

37 posted on 09/02/2012 7:19:17 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

You’re gonna love that CZ82.

As you’ve already learned, they are very easy to shoot and very accurate.


38 posted on 09/02/2012 7:23:17 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Looks like center mass to me. Good job deo.


39 posted on 09/02/2012 7:24:50 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: 2111USMC
This was still from 7 yards, with a variety of ammo. The Fiocchi, some Hornady hollow points, and some Silver Bear. Believe it or not, most of the nine ring shots were with the Silver Bear. It ate all the ammo I fed it, with no failures of any kind.


40 posted on 09/02/2012 7:28:48 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: davetex

Thanks! One thing that will help is brighter sights. The paint was old and faded. I carefully removed the old paint, and re-did the sights. I didn’t have any white, but I had a vial of Hi-visibilty yellow, and it actually stands out quite well. Can’t wait to get back the the range for some more practice, but I already know that I am definitely happy I made the buy!


41 posted on 09/02/2012 7:32:48 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae; mylife; 50cal Smokepole

That’s the one I believe both mylife and 50cal have.

I hear they are very reasonable.


42 posted on 09/02/2012 7:39:03 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (EAT MOR CHIKIN)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Looks good.

I’m very leery of Silver Bear ammo now. I used to buy the Silver Bear hollow points regularly from AIM Surplus. A few months ago at the range I had a squib round and didn’t know it. Everything cycled just fine. I fired the next round which then pushed the squib round out of the barrel. Unfortunately, it ended up bulging the barrel.

Needless to say, that was it for that CZ. I loved it so much though that I went ahead and bought another one.

I fired hundreds of rounds of Silver Bear through my first CZ without any problems. I’m going to error on the side of caution from now on and use different brands (recently bought 5 boxes of PPU at a decent price at AIM and they have a brass case).


43 posted on 09/02/2012 7:43:21 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: 2111USMC; All
Dam!

I hate that for you. Good info though. Thanks for passing it along. I'll bear it in mind when I'm ammo shopping.

Gonna call it a night guys. Take care everyone!

44 posted on 09/02/2012 7:50:34 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Take care Deo.


45 posted on 09/02/2012 8:08:44 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: All

Thanks to all for stopping by.


46 posted on 09/02/2012 8:09:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Pow!


47 posted on 09/02/2012 8:36:13 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

A CZ 82 is a good pistol at $200.

$1200 for a CZ75B is ridiculous. I would pay $450~$500 for the CZ75

Both are fine pistols


48 posted on 09/02/2012 8:45:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey Frog thanks for standing in.
I have a bit of a family dilemma that is distracting me, and the football season is also encroaching on the GT thread.


49 posted on 09/02/2012 8:49:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Anytime you want me to post the thread, feel free to give me a heads up an hour or two ahead of time. I’m usually home on Sun. night, but not always.


50 posted on 09/02/2012 9:31:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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