Posted on 09/04/2012 8:51:01 AM PDT by Kartographer
Well, its not the term used by them, they call it food expropriation, but what else can you call filling carts with stuff and leaving by force without paying?
When thousands of Argentineans left after the crisis and moved to Spain I’m sure they never thought they would see that again. To be fair they aren’t taking booze and big screen TVs, but taking what isn’t yours is still under the same principle. Would you do any different if you couldn’t put food on the table and spent months unemployed? In this case Trade Union workers filled carts with basic food staples to be redistributed by an ONG among the needy. This happened in well know socialist cities of Cadiz and Sevilla, which has 32% unemployment.
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and now... bank runs?
Preppers’ PING!!!
Spanish Activist loot supermarket:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kebtviaGMMw&feature=player_embedded
Organized by Unions/Commies from the looks of it.
Yet another end-result of the Welfare State. Gimme gimme gimme and make someone else pay for it. You want food? Simply take it. Its the breakdown of civilization and a return to the rule of the mob. Western Civilization lasted for 1,000 years after emerging from the Dark Ages. The Welfare State is destroying it. We really should be worried for our kids.
Not just governments but most major banks are broke and working on the edge. Most of the largest Mega Banks have derivatives exposures that are 40-50-60 times their total assets, so what happens if Europe does collapse (which is fairly likely) causing them to loose just a modest percentage on those derivatives? ( http://ncrenegade.com/financial/fdic-statistics-read-em-and-weep-ann-barnhardt/ )
Personally I expect something much like the well I think that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.
When you add in the fact that their is a growing concern for social unrest regardless of which way the election goes, the next few months will be like walking a mine field.
Recent events show (Flash Mobs, OWS, etc) we have a large entitlement minded population that is violent prone and armed. I think that during a collapse you will see many small businesses wiped out by flash mob looting, and once started it will quickly spread to rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. You will see what I call ‘pocket pogroms’ and if you ain’t ‘Amish’ you better not be around when they come.
Many of these ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.
I can’t help, but think of this quote which is one of my favorites:
“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: “Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”
Clearly there’s a storm coming, as great as a hurricane and like you do when a hurricane comes your way you either prepare to weather it or you become a victim of it.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:
http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf
NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!
For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”
Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”
Not just governments but most major banks are broke and working on the edge. Most of the largest Mega Banks have derivatives exposures that are 40-50-60 times their total assets, so what happens if Europe does collapse (which is fairly likely) causing them to loose just a modest percentage on those derivatives? ( http://ncrenegade.com/financial/fdic-statistics-read-em-and-weep-ann-barnhardt/ )
Personally I expect something much like the well I think that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.
When you add in the fact that their is a growing concern for social unrest regardless of which way the election goes, the next few months will be like walking a mine field.
Recent events show (Flash Mobs, OWS, etc) we have a large entitlement minded population that is violent prone and armed. I think that during a collapse you will see many small businesses wiped out by flash mob looting, and once started it will quickly spread to rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. You will see what I call ‘pocket pogroms’ and if you ain’t ‘Amish’ you better not be around when they come.
Many of these ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.
I can’t help, but think of this quote which is one of my favorites:
“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: “Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”
Clearly there’s a storm coming, as great as a hurricane and like you do when a hurricane comes your way you either prepare to weather it or you become a victim of it.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:
http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf
NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!
For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”
Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”
Nothing to see here! Brussels says the Euro will be around for decades to come, so it MUST be true! /s
Of course not. Isn’t it the job of capitalist pigs to support the socialist schemes? These idiots probably think the stores stole the products from someone else first.
bfl
Manufactured ‘crisis’??
The fact is that we’re headed there no matter who wins the election.
Last summer I remember the occupiers plotted to take over the “corporate owned” countryside, showing how wildly out of touch with reality they really are.
They are truly living in bizarroland
If they come to my part of the countryside with the intention of taking over,I would advise them to bring their own body bags.
Locusts...the Biblical kind.
As far as I can tell, corporations own very little land aside from a few big corporate farms and most of the food is still produced by private farmers who sell to the manufacturers.
The big land owners are people like you and I who may own an acre or less and the feds and states. I live not far from the Chrysler proving ground which is huge but its still a tiny speck in the map.
I’m sure everyone has heard the rumors that something is planned for the week before the election.
A PLANNED financial implosion would not surprise me. It may be their last chance for looting on a vast scale (not the convenience store...the brokerages/banks a la John Corzine).
He has gone INTERNATIONAL!!!!
(if 0bama had a son that was a looter, he would look like this guy....)
I had forgotten that the Mormons stress one years supply of food and basic items. That is not a bad policy, if you have the room to story things. Andrew Tobias makes the same points in several of his books, oddly enough.
When chaos breaks out in this country I'm relying on the looters to hit the appliance stores first to pick up a new flat screen just before the grid goes down. In the meantime, I intend to head for the nearest wholesale store (Sam's, Costco, etc) and buy all the foodstuffs I can with soon to be worthless credit cards (while the grid is still up), or checks and fiat currency which will be worthless in no time.
The flip side of this is numbers, training, and skill. A majority of the population is productive - decent people outnumber thugs. Also, training and skill matter. Thugs hit with about one out of seven aimed shots and kill with one out of ten hits. Civilians shooting in self-defense hit one out of two shots and kill with close to one out of two hits (precise values vary for both statistics, but those numbers are reasonably reliable). We don't need nearly as large a percentage of good Christians defending themselves before wilding gets expensive for the criminal class.
No one else is saying it...so I will.
Looks like Hispano-Iberian culture peaked in 1588 and has been slip-sliding away ever since.
I know what that’s from!
Dude... I love your ping list but you have GOT to stop using the Star Trek quote.
Don't worry, they'll have kids that will pay for all of this. It's settled science. /s
The truth always bears repeating. You have no idea how many even here on FR think that this kind of thing can’t happen here or to them.
I concur: adding fantasy quotes to serious subjects dilutes the seriousness and credibility of the topic.
The truth of any coming collapse is not borne out by a quote from a science fiction TV show... and I’m a Trekkie!
All I can say is that the wife and I got to see Seville last year. We saw the onset of this in Barcelona and Madrid this year.
It won’t be long.
Many Americans have useful skills, but we’re not so involved in politics now. Funny—most who believe that they are highly skilled will know that they are useless before long. Many don’t even realize that they are miseducated despite the costs of their educations, or that their incomes are coming from a monstrous pile of debt.
True: holosights might not work well after SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, the end. Maybe good iron sites would be tougher.
Oh...you said “holosuites.” Never mind! ;-)
The truth is the Truth no matter where you find it. I think back biting and nitpicking do far more toward diluting such threads.
Let me rewrite it:
John Doe: “Let me tell you something about people, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their tv’s are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, hot showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty gangbanger. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”
Maybe you can see what the meaning is now.
More sincerely to all:
If things get so bad that many are really starving (which I doubt, given our agricultural capacities and preparedness), it might be wisest to concentrate more on supporting yourselves than on violence. Granted, there are those of you near relatively more dangerous populations, but even those areas are home to many conservative, decent Americans (believe it or not—been there). They only have higher percentages of violent criminals.
Many of you would lose your incomes from government at the end of a complete default process (might happen) and should be focusing more on having all of the necessities to get through a long, poor spell. I know that very few are really all that well prepared for being out of work and having mortgages foreclosed. It’s wise to save.
As for starving masses, they would be starving...and weak. But this ain’t Egypt. Grow something, or store some food. Self-defense, yes. Always be prepared for that necessity. But don’t plan on firing through the neighbors’ houses with high-speed rounds. That would have terrible consequences. There will always be those who will find ways to support the law and lawmen.
As for the often-mentioned “martial law,” it’s not so bad. I’ve lived under it (the UCMJ), as have many others. It really has some advantages. And the National Guard will not come to steal your food (also often mentioned). Even if the National Guard had an evil twin (as seen on TV), there wouldn’t be any profit in traveling all the way to some house (like mine, in the middle of nowhere) to steal food from it. Fuel and time would be too precious.
As for politics, if you don’t believe that voting will help, starve the beast. Stop buying so many toys and so much junk for entertainment (generates big revenues/debt). Become more self-sufficient. Learn to produce something useful as a hobby. Might need a business after the end of the world (little humor there).
If things get so bad that many are really starving (which I doubt, given our agricultural capacities and preparedness), it might be wisest to concentrate more on supporting yourselves than on violence.
Truth is, most modern Americans havent’ the slightest idea of how to grow their own food. Although an informed individual could easily survive off the land, most lack the knowledge as to how to feed themselves from natures pantry (a good friend referred to this phenomenon as “idiots starving to death in a grocery store”).
Unfortunately, most of our food supply is trucked in from other locations. In the SHTF scenario, I wouldn’t count on any trucks running with basic supplies/staples for a long time.
As for violence, you may more concerned with supporting yourself but others will be intent on violence. They will give you no choice.
Hussein's minions have already been placed in key positions in government departments and agencies who will continue to carry out the destruction of America.
Our problems are way bigger than Obama. He’s barely a pimple compered to our problems that go back decades. The fed loaned out some $16 trillion dollars between 2007 and 3011 that amounted to handing out 16 trillion in IOUs on the promise that the American people will pay at off.
Things simply are not going to get better without a total global collapse.
The GAO audit of the federal reserve.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/60553686/GAO-Fed-Investigation#outer_page_144
That has been one of my biggest accomplishments of the past six years, other than my role in my family and in my church. My taxable income is down more than 90% by choice. I refuse to feed the beast more than is useful for our country.
Apologies for writing a reply that might have appeared to be overbearing. I could have found better words. But maybe we should run through likely causes and effects of a given scenario and learn a little more about being prepared.
“As for the often-mentioned “martial law,” it’s not so bad. I’ve lived under it (the UCMJ), as have many others.”
Uh, that’s “Military Law.”
“Martial Law” is something different.
The federal reserve with the help of our government have sold us into generational slavery to a debt that we can never pay off.
We need a slave revolt.
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