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Police shoot, kill dog while chasing suspect
KDVR (Denver) ^ | August 28, 2012 | Tammy Vigil

Posted on 09/04/2012 11:28:50 AM PDT by Altariel

THORNTON, Colo. — A Thornton police officer shoots and kills a family’s dog he claims threatened him Sunday.

But the dog’s family and neighbors dispute that.

They say the American bulldog-mix never even left their front yard.

Police were in the neighborhood chasing after a man wanted on a misdemeanor drug charge.

The man, Phillip Armstrong-Bowen, was already under arrest when the officer shot the animal.

“He was on my screen saver,” says Vivian Girone, of 8-year-old Scar.

Girone like any proud grandma shows off photos of the dog–in the car, snuggling with dad and out-cold on the couch.

“He was almost human,” says Girone.

But her last memory of him brings her to tears.

“He was bleeding profusely. And he fell in. I dragged him in. I covered his head and I loved on him. He was so hurt,” says Girone.

A Thornton police officer shot scar once in the face.

The department says in a news release: “….a large pit bull started to run toward the officers from a nearby residence. The dog charged one of the officers and began to leap at one of the officers. To protect himself from the attack as the dog’s mouth was open while charging, the officer fired one round and struck the animal.”

“He wasn’t running, he wasn’t growling, he wasn’t barking. He was not lunging,” says a witness who saw the shooting.

But neighbors and family say the dog didn’t threaten anyone–didn’t even leave the front yard.

“He just saw that dog, didn’t even look twice, went boom,” says the witness who didn’t want to be identified.

“I had him since he was a puppy. I raised him. He was the most lovable dog you could ever imagine. He learned to play football. He made touchdowns. He just wouldn’t return the ball back,” says John Lara, the dog’s owner.

“I don’t know what we’re going to do without him. He was just one of us, you know,” says Girone.

But still they wonder why their buddy had to die on his home turf by a man they say is supposed to protect and serve.

“I really want justice just for him. He had no fault in that at all. None,” says Girone.

The family rushed Scar to the veterinarian and paid $1,000 to save his life. But he died anyway.

They say they would have been more understanding of the situation, if the officer had even apologized.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: cop; cops; dog; donutwatch; police; policebrutality; warondogs

1 posted on 09/04/2012 11:28:56 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Stories like this are why my home defense strategy has been rebuilt around a battle rifle as opposed to a handgun or shotgun. The threatening scum sometimes wear armor.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 11:32:49 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Altariel; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; SunkenCiv

Title should read “pigs” not “police”. Someone worthy of being called a “policeman” or anything ending in “man” would at least apologize if he freaked out and shot a dog.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 11:35:25 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Doesn't sound like he freaked out. It sounds like he saw a target, aimed and fired. This guy must be his hero: Target: Acquired Mission: Terminate
4 posted on 09/04/2012 11:38:03 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

““He just saw that dog, didn’t even look twice, went boom,” says the witness who didn’t want to be identified.”

That why I have a 6’ wooden, gated, locked fence and a weapon by the back door...and I’m -always- out with the dogs.

There will be _no_ -uncorrected- “mistakes”, here.

Good thing the family didn’t have a big ‘scary’ teenage son standing in the yard.


5 posted on 09/04/2012 11:38:45 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: jboot

“Gramma” and the son sure did look like thugs.

/s


6 posted on 09/04/2012 11:44:19 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Altariel

An officer today can never be so busy as to not have time to stop and shoot somebody’s dog.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 11:51:17 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Altariel
EVERY dog is a potential risk to peeps around it.

For cops even more so as cops are not the friendly guys of yore.

The mere barring of teeth (especially from a LAB) is not overly threatening to folks who can then try to mollify the doggie before closing the distance.

8 posted on 09/04/2012 11:51:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Altariel

Sue the pigs. I lost all respect for cops in general long ago, when I found the vast majority of them are lazy time-servers and a sizeable minority are cowardly bullies.


9 posted on 09/04/2012 11:51:52 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Salamander

We always take our two Lhasas on trips. I’m paranoid of getting stopped by a trigger happy cop. One of the dogs will bark like the dickens if anyone gets near the car. So, if we’re stopped my wife is going to hold the dog in her lap. If we’re ever ordered out of the car the dogs will be on leashes BEFORE we step out.


10 posted on 09/04/2012 11:56:21 AM PDT by Terry Mross (2016 THE MOVIE....scarier than any zombie movie.)
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To: Salamander
They are probably lucky barney didn't put a round into them, too. I guess there is more of a paperwork nuisance when you dust a bystander than when you dust a dog. It doesn't prevent them from doing it now and agin, though.

Don't dial 911.

11 posted on 09/04/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Altariel

Why are the police killing family pets?


12 posted on 09/04/2012 11:57:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Altariel

I wonder how many points that cop got. The game has gone national.


13 posted on 09/04/2012 12:01:55 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Altariel
“He wasn’t running, he wasn’t growling, he wasn’t barking. He was not lunging,” says a witness who saw the shooting.

It must have been his bad breath because we know that the police never discharge their guns without a good reason --

14 posted on 09/04/2012 12:16:00 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Altariel

Is that you, Chett99?


15 posted on 09/04/2012 12:20:38 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Terry Mross
I'm pretty much doomed if stopped.

This is what's in my vehicle:

If anyone even looks like they're thinking of getting near the car with me in it, 'barking like the dickens' doesn't even begin to cover his reaction.

He's securely buckled in with a heavy duty dog seat belt so he's utterly no threat unless I unbuckle the belt but I can easily imagine some pig trying to boost his testosterone levels by shooting him through the window.

He's my support dog so I have the conundrum; take him with me and risk having him murdered or leave him home and sacrifice the service/support he's been trained to provide?

I should not even have to remotely consider these things *just* to have my dog with me.

America has gone mad.

If, God forbid, the above scenario ever happens, the dog and I will be slaughtered together along some road, somewhere.

No one will vindicate his death but perhaps they'll vindicate mine.

16 posted on 09/04/2012 12:28:52 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: jboot
That's like the gospel, around here.

We call no one.

We can handle anything ourselves, just fine.

17 posted on 09/04/2012 12:31:49 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: freekitty

Because they can.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 12:32:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

No, she is not.

She invests a lot of effort to alert the rest of us about what is happening in the madhouse that was once America.


19 posted on 09/04/2012 12:34:27 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: freekitty

“Why are the police killing family pets?”

Because they can.


20 posted on 09/04/2012 12:34:30 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: Altariel
Good LORD, now these bastards are running from house to house shooting every dog they see!!!!!

Are we sure that the police aren't being bing taken over by Middle Easterners? They hate dogs.

21 posted on 09/04/2012 12:34:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Salamander

Nice looking dog. I am sure you feel very secure with him near you.

Instead of the BS “war on women” theme pushed by the media, they should investigate the real “war on dogs” the police have been waging the past 10 years.


22 posted on 09/04/2012 12:37:11 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Salamander

>> “America has gone mad.” <<

.
Decades ago.

You should place signs on your vehicle’s windows:

“Caution Service Dog - Stay Back 10 Feet”


23 posted on 09/04/2012 12:37:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m surprised no one has created a graphic showing a picture of Mohammed pronouncing his support for a dog shooting.

“Mohammed Approved Dog Shooting”.

It could even be shaped like a badge.


24 posted on 09/04/2012 12:39:48 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander
I have a pack of 3 Labs. Here is my sign. The real truth is they are already at the fence anywhere you are before the 3 seconds.


25 posted on 09/04/2012 12:40:53 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: packrat35

Surely there’s some Freeper in media who would be willing to put this information out as a documentary or a television program.

“War on Dogs” would be an apt title. They’d literally have HUNDREDS of cases.


26 posted on 09/04/2012 12:43:22 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: jboot

You do not need the rifle; “boar rounds” do nicely at penetrating kevlar garments.

They are available in .357, .44, and .454 (all ‘wheel’ guns)


27 posted on 09/04/2012 12:43:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: packrat35

Ironically, I’m starting to feel as though I have to keep him safe instead of the other way around.

I really do worry about cops when I have him with me.

Non-cops, I worry not.


28 posted on 09/04/2012 12:43:40 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Salamander

“...America has gone mad....”

No...not America....not the whole country.

Just some Useful Idiots, their handlers, and their trigger happy flunkies.


29 posted on 09/04/2012 12:45:54 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s actually a pretty good idea...but I’d raise it to 20 feet, probably, just to be safe.

His harness patches already warn people that the dog’s ‘job’ is to protect me...and they usually get ignored by everybody who just ~has~ to pet him.


30 posted on 09/04/2012 12:46:44 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: packrat35

LOL

Mine too.

He’s there as soon as he hears a car come up the lane from 100 yards away.

I fenced off the back yard so the delivery people can come in safely.

He just raises hell at them through the front window in the living room, now.

[I put metal bars over the screen...he can easily ram through that stuff, if he wants]


31 posted on 09/04/2012 12:51:04 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: NFHale

That’s cold comfort.

:-\


32 posted on 09/04/2012 12:53:30 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Salamander

I pray you never have to go through that scenario.

Word is getting out; I pray enough people will stand against this to stop this before it gets worse.


33 posted on 09/04/2012 12:55:16 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

That’s because you care. We all try to keep those we care about safe. Quite certain he will do the same for you.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 1:05:27 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: MeganC

What’s the real reason


35 posted on 09/04/2012 1:13:21 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: jboot
I'm not sure what a battle rifle is, but sounds great.

Remember though in a shotgun use birdshot, birdshot, slug. Body armor will not stop the slug.

36 posted on 09/04/2012 1:13:59 PM PDT by st.eqed
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Another minor drug offense leads to a dead family dog.

Let’s keep this war on drugs going. /s


37 posted on 09/04/2012 1:16:49 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: freekitty

Sadly, it appears to be practicing on animals, so they have less compunction to use them on law-abiding citizens.

Obama needs to have his Civilian National Security Force, you know.


38 posted on 09/04/2012 2:04:41 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: freekitty

“What’s the real reason”

Because they can. Cops get to do all sorts of things that normal people would never get away with and in the past few years they’ve decided to start shooting dogs. This is a relatively new phenomenon and is likely linked to the militarization of the police across the country. Shooting people’s dogs is an effective way of letting people know who the boss is and it is also a handy way for certain cops to bully people. And, so far, I don’t know of any cops who’ve been reprimanded for shooting dogs, even the hero who shot a two-pound teacup Chihuahua a year or two ago got away with it.


39 posted on 09/04/2012 2:51:52 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: packrat35

Yes he absolutely would...and that’s what worries me.

I don’t want him to die for me....:(


40 posted on 09/04/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: st.eqed
A battle rifle is a rifle (barrel exceeding 22") chambered in a full-length cartridge (as opposed to a "short" cartridge). A good modern example is the M1A or M14.

To use gamer's parlance, such weapons ignore most soft body armor, especially when supplied with M2 AP bullets. There are exceptions, but they are heavy, expensive and uncommon.

I must respectfully disagree about shotgun slugs penetrating body armor. Common class IIIA armor will resist 12 GA shotgun slugs.

41 posted on 09/04/2012 4:32:35 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: editor-surveyor
As the fellow over at The Box O'Truth says, "pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles." At any rate speaking for myself, I can handle a rifle much more easily than a revolver.

That and bayonets also ignore soft body armor.

42 posted on 09/04/2012 4:45:03 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jboot

But how easily can you hide the rifle?


43 posted on 09/04/2012 5:59:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Impy; Altariel; Clintonfatigued; DarthVader; Perdogg; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

Amen, Impy!!!


44 posted on 09/04/2012 6:29:05 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; traviskicks; Zanton; SunkenCiv

What is it with cops now? This is becoming more common.


45 posted on 09/04/2012 6:33:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: editor-surveyor

In the country firearms are just part of the decor. Certain things can hide in plain sight. For other things, houses have plenty of places to hide. Better still, they offer infinite possibilities if you know a bit of carpentry.


46 posted on 09/05/2012 5:26:44 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Altariel

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he with his adrenaline going during the chase saw a mean looking dog and got scared. Natural reaction but not acceptable. People allowed to be peace officers empowered with deadly force need to be cool under pressure or find a new job. I wonder if his trigger finger would have been so itchy if it was a 12 year old kid with a BB gun.

If he is as you describe he belongs on the other side of the bars.


47 posted on 09/06/2012 2:07:49 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

This doesn’t sound like a fear based reaction.

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“He wasn’t running, he wasn’t growling, he wasn’t barking. He was not lunging,” says a witness who saw the shooting.

But neighbors and family say the dog didn’t threaten anyone–didn’t even leave the front yard.

“He just saw that dog, didn’t even look twice, went boom,” says the witness who didn’t want to be identified.

****
That’s a cold, calculated decision, not a fear based response.


48 posted on 09/06/2012 8:49:24 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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