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Hackers claim 12 million Apple IDs from FBI
AFP ^ | September 4, 2012 | Rob Lever

Posted on 09/04/2012 3:08:49 PM PDT by Altariel

WASHINGTON — A hacker group has claimed to have obtained personal data from 12 million Apple iPhone and iPad users by breaching an FBI computer, raising concerns about government tracking, but the FBI said it never had the data.

The group called AntiSec, linked to the hacking collective known as Anonymous, posted one million Apple user identifiers on Monday purported to be part of a larger group of 12 million obtained from an FBI laptop.

The FBI initially had no comment on the reports, but later in the day issued a statement which cast doubt on the purported data breach, saying it never had the data in question.

"The FBI is aware of published reports alleging that an FBI laptop was compromised and private data regarding Apple UDIDs (unique device identifiers) was exposed," the US Federal Bureau of Investigation said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: apple; fbi; hackers

1 posted on 09/04/2012 3:08:52 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Why did the FBI have these?


2 posted on 09/04/2012 3:09:30 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: Altariel

Welcome to 0bama’s LEAKY government.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 3:13:26 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: republicangel

awww. maybe some dude at the FBI just needed some cash so he sold them


4 posted on 09/04/2012 3:13:56 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: republicangel

Why did the FBI have these?

Yeah thats what I was thinking!


5 posted on 09/04/2012 3:17:41 PM PDT by ezoeni
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To: Altariel

Think about it ....

It’s a very, very sad commentary on the state of trust in the Federal Government and it’s agencies when we instinctively believe the word of some hacker instead of the Government.


6 posted on 09/04/2012 3:23:09 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: republicangel

That’s what I’d like to know.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
Last time I bought a new computer, I paid cash. They tried everything to get me to give an ID. I finally got the computer without them knowing who I was. I expect to see ID's required for computer purchases in the future.

Of course, it would be racist to require an ID to vote. /sarc

/johnny

8 posted on 09/04/2012 3:26:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Altariel

Anybody that trusts ANY part of government needs to have their head examined.

The whole damn system is riff with corruption, failure and outright scumbags.


9 posted on 09/04/2012 3:51:02 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Swordmaker

ping?


10 posted on 09/04/2012 3:53:24 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: republicangel
Why did the FBI have these?

Ditto. The FBI protestations to the opposite are lame at best. The evidence indicates otherwise.
11 posted on 09/04/2012 4:02:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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To: republicangel

I am reminded of the FBI program from some months ago that offered people the opportunity to have their computers examined by the FBI to make sure it was free of some virus that was going to crash everyone’s hard drives.

Remember thinking at the time that this did not sound right, so I never did log onto their site to have them check my ‘puter. My husband did with his, though.

It’s not that I have anything on my computer to hide — or even anything that could bring me any embarrassment — it’s just that I don’t trust anything that the Soros Administration does. I hope they don’t clean out our retirement savings with the information they got from the husband....


12 posted on 09/04/2012 4:36:41 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Altariel

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/09/04/heres-check-apple-device-udid-compromised-antisec-leak/


13 posted on 09/04/2012 4:45:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: Altariel

I imagine that many Windoze systems get viruses each day...


14 posted on 09/04/2012 4:46:18 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: The Working Man

Actually, I’d rather say it is a very encouraging commentary on the state of the American people’s political consciousness when we instinctively distrust the word of the Government. That should be our default position, always.


15 posted on 09/04/2012 4:47:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Altariel

It is worth noting that the FBI was tracking all of these Apple device users. They had gathered these IDs. The hackers released them, stripping out info, in order to show what the FBI was doing.

What happened to privacy?


16 posted on 09/04/2012 4:48:45 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: Altariel

I’m disappointed that the FBI failed to properly manage the security of their stolen data.


17 posted on 09/04/2012 5:06:21 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Bigg Red

You’re embarrassing yourself with that sort of paranoid nuttery. The site simply checked if your machine’s DNS had been hijacked and was using a GOVERNMENT DNS server they put up to defang a specific bit of malware. If your machine made it past that day without issue, then you weren’t infected.

If you need that explained in more detail I’d be happy to, or you can look things up yourself, but the bottom line is, if you’d been infected with the malware, your machine would have been talking to a government server all along.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 6:33:39 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Did or did not the FBI have 12 Million Apple UDIDs for iPads and iPhones to be stolen? And why would they have all this extra information which is NOT usually included in with UDID? I smell a rat. My BS o-meter is pegging over quite far. UDIDs do not carry such information!—PING!


Apple Security and the FBI Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

19 posted on 09/04/2012 6:58:22 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: All

I am trying to figure out why the FBI would have only Apple UDIDs... and the implication that only Apple has UDIDs... ALL cellular devices have either UDIDs or UUIDs. These are the Unique Device Identification numbers that the cell phone carriers use to connect the network TO the phone. Why would the FBI have a database of ONLY Apple devices? That makes no sense.


20 posted on 09/04/2012 7:05:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: MV=PY

MV=PY wrote: “I’m disappointed that the FBI failed to properly manage the security of their stolen data.”

/snort! ( : >)


21 posted on 09/04/2012 11:34:32 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Fire_on_High

Okay, thank you for the explanation.

As for the nuttery, I never used to be a foil hatter, but this administration scares me a great deal.


22 posted on 09/05/2012 6:56:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Swordmaker

I believe (though I couldn’t find a source to confirm or deny it) that Apple’s UDID scheme is proprietary. UUIDs are more widespread. But the number the cell carriers use is the IMEI number to identify the phone; they use the IMSI number (which identifies the SIM card) to route calls on GSM networks.


23 posted on 09/05/2012 8:15:52 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
I believe (though I couldn’t find a source to confirm or deny it) that Apple’s UDID scheme is proprietary. UUIDs are more widespread. But the number the cell carriers use is the IMEI number to identify the phone; they use the IMSI number (which identifies the SIM card) to route calls on GSM networks.

Android phones have the UUID, same thing, different acronym. Other phones, have similar identifiers. They do not carry such things as name, address, passwords, etc., in the database as this article implies. You are right about the IMEI identifier.

My point is why would the FBI still be carrying a database of only Apple device identifying numbers? The FBI is still standing by it's claim that they did not have such a file. Apple does use such a number and its format is known. I think that someone could concoct a table of such numbers, and post it... just by random hits, depending on the size of the size of the sample, some people are bound to get hits on the first section, which is not as randomized as the last portion of the number. It's like someone predicting what the first four numbers of your Visa card are... that's easy. Now they have a database of real Apple Mobile Device owners and their contacts... hmmmm. Do you think that could be valuable? I do.

24 posted on 09/05/2012 10:20:16 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Claim is they have Obama’s iPad.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/AntiSec/197316820319991


25 posted on 09/05/2012 11:40:51 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: ReignOfError
From Apple and the FBI:

“Apple Inc. and the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation denied claims by hackers who said they stole information on 12 million Apple Inc. user accounts from an FBI computer,” Jordan Robertson and Adam Satariano report for Bloomberg.

“Many of the hackers’ claims, posted this week in a long online missive from the group calling itself Anonymous. The FBI said in a statement yesterday that there was ‘no evidence indicating that an FBI laptop was compromised or that the FBI either sought or obtained this data,’” Robertson and Satariano report. “Apple said it didn’t provide any user information to the FBI or other organizations. ‘The FBI has not requested this information from Apple, nor have we provided it to the FBI or any organization,’ said Natalie Kerris, an Apple spokeswoman.”

Robertson and Satariano report, “The hackers may have posted some legitimate users’ device names and the unique identifier codes assigned to their iPhones, iPads and iPod Touches, according to Sean Sullivan, a security adviser at F-Secure Corp. who examined a data file that the hackers released. It isn’t known whether the hackers really have the other information they claim to have redacted from the data file, including user names, mobile phone numbers and addresses. ‘What they have released is not a very serious breach at all,’ Sullivan said in an interview. As for claims that the information came from the FBI, he said, ‘they’ve offered no additional corroborating evidence, they’ve offered nothing else — they’ve immediately demanded no interviews. I think they’ve made it up.’”

Read more at http://macdailynews.com/2012/09/05/apple-fbi-deny-hacker-claim-of-breach-of-apple-ios-device-user-data/#qUUlqUIR07FgWVcy.99
26 posted on 09/05/2012 2:59:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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