Skip to comments.JJ on PBS "Jefferson Davis Democrats became Goldwater Republicans
Posted on 09/05/2012 7:41:25 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs
Separately, Jackson cited a New South that has been created largely by the civil rights marches and then by the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which President Johnson got passed through Congress in 1965. One far-reaching effect of the Voting Rights Act, said Jackson, is that politics have changed in the South. Jefferson Davis Democrats became Goldwater Republicans and the Lincoln Republicans became Johnson Democrats.
Both Jackson and Metcalf agreed that a winning tactic on the part of the new Democratic coalition they envision is full-scale combat with the tea party conservatives and their agenda to cut government.
45 percent of South Carolinas economy is related to the federal government, said Jackson, The interstate highways are federal, and the seaports are federal. This states rights talk (about privatizing government programs and outlets) doesnt stand up.
Hey, Jesse, maybe you should be worrying more about your cokehead son.
Next, we're going to hear that 100% of the economy is dependent on the government since the government issues the currency...
“then by the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which President Johnson got passed through Congress in 1965”
Should read, “which President Johnson bribed, rewarded, cheated, and poured money out like water, to get passed through Congress in 1965.”
Much of the fiscal hole we find ourselves in today began with LBJ. And if he hadn’t thrown enough money down the rat hole on his on, later when the riots started, they just completely turned on the money tap! Of course most of those folks knew they’d be long dead before the real stuff hit the fan.
A lie told often enough...
Thanks for trying Jesse, but the parties just didn’t switch voting preferences.
You can’t erase the racism inherent in the Democrat party by uttering a lie.
Is this bull or what. same old lies. I dont think Jesse thought this one up on his own..bet someone handed him a script
Je$$e says: 45 percent of South Carolinas economy is related to the federal government, said Jackson, The interstate highways are federal, and the seaports are federal. This states rights talk (about privatizing government programs and outlets) doesnt stand up.
Frédéric Bastiat predictively responded: "Socialism confuses the distinction between government and society. Every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all."
actually Dixiecrats most certainly with very few exceptions become Republicans
the irony being rather rich..my WBTS ancestry (whose graves I visited last weekend btw) who survived the war and Reconstruction would be aghast until they surveyed the new political scene.
I know NeoYankees just hate that with a passion
However, without us...the descendents...you would be a minority party given how whites vote for the most part where you live sneering down at us.
Sucks I know..but you’ll get over it.
Besides...this year it’s all Yankee anyhow including one pretty darn good one who might be our future...one i can sure live with.
Southern social conservatives are just dependable this year but not much represented.
Complete rewrite of history. The real racists and segregationists in the Democratic party stayed in the Democratic party after the civil rights era.
Most notably among them were Senator Byrd, and Senator Stennis, but the list goes on and on.
This notion that the left supports centralization and the right supports federalism is very strange. In old Mexico it was the conservatives who supported centralization while left wingers like Benito Juarez supported not only a decentralized federal union but American-style capitalism as well.
That is the Dems' current conceit. Its how they explain their history to themselves.
Actually, once you remove race as an issue, the parties did realign with Dems who were, say, national security conservatives or free market "classic liberals" crossing over to the GOP. We didn't accept the Dem view of race, they accepted ours.
The GOP has generally resisted race politics, while the DNC has always had race front and center. A lot has changed in terms of race in America, but the DNC's obsession with race has not changed.
How does he feel about those Jefferson Davis Democrats lynching his people? What a fraud this man is.
Not so much. o2bfree is correct. That's a compete fabrication. Of 26 admitted dixiecrats, only 3 became republicans. The rest went back to the democrat fold.
And Democrats all turned into A-holes or were they always that way?
Republicans wanted and want Blacks to be free. Democrats wanted and want the slave holders to be changed to the Government. Obama, Jesse and Al are just the big house slaves trying to keep the field slaves from running.
Factually they didn't. I came across a website that had a list of all the known Dixiecrats and traced their party affiliated once the Dixiecrat party fell apart. Something like 90% of them became democrats.
There is no question of that...the voting white south fled to the GOP and pushed it right.
And btw...John Stennis was a patriot..democrat or nit...lookvit up.
Personally, through High School & College & Law School, I was a Conservative Democrat--my political identification with such men as Harry Byrd of Virginia--who was very well respected in Southern Ohio as a true statesman, by men in both political parties. While I began to work for Barry Goldwater's candidacy right after the 1960 election, I did not actually switch parties, myself until the 1964 campaign.
Without the Southern Conservative swing to the Republicans, neither Nixon nor Reagan could have been elected--nor for that matter would either Bush. That is political reality. It is truly a shame that at this late date, there is still such a terrible bias against Southern Conservatives.
Of course Jesse Jackson epitomizes what I have referred to as Creating Hate In America Today. Those who seek to deliberately undermine the rooted Southerners sense of heritage are no friends to any American future. It is the South where the largest percentage of the population still understand the multi-generational pursuit that is any nation, tribe, community or family.
Continue to keep the Faith!
So was Jesse Jackson a Jefferson Davis Democrat who became an LBJ Democrat? How’d that happen?
Don't these kids know every white person in America was a racist in 1955 by today's submissive white benchmark
And to deny that white democrat voters did not flock to the GOP from Nixon on to get away from Great Society excess is just willfull ignorance
Bet they don't know most GOP voted all that garbage and only Dixiecrats and GOP like Reagan...Buckley and Goldwater came out against that junk
Junk which laid the seeds for what they all whine about today...with good reason
Its a common thread here.ignorance framed by the ever present racial prism they simply cannot resist the lure of
Long time no see Bill great to see some sanity on the thread
I saw anti Southern bias here first day 12 years ago
Its the culture...brainwashed the kids
Just imagine how bad the left must be
The compulsion to try to force a uniformity on any population reflects a neurotic denial of the fact that people are all different--not the same--not at all the same. The South is most hated by such compulsion driven fanatics, not because you were ever the intolerant land that they seek to picture, but precisely the opposite. You were the land of Jefferson, the land of tolerance, of an individualism so deep that many of your Confederate Army Officers felt free to redesign their own uniforms; a land where at a time when the hate crazed Pennsylvania radical Thadeus Stephens was Karl Marx's pen pal--Marx being the actual framer of Hitler's rationalizations for demonizing the European Jews--had two Jewish Senators, one of whom was named Secretary of State for the Confederacy.
The false history of the South is easily refuted by such witnesses as Booker T. Washington, whose description of race relations in the 1890s paints the true picture that Hollywood & the NEA have been denying in both movies & classrooms since the 1950s.
Sorry to get up on a typing "soap box." It is just that we really need you folks on our side.
Always great to "hear" from you.
Good stuff. Thanks, I needed that.
Good stuff. Thanks, I needed that.
Like Senator Byrd.
Where do you get your “history”?
Evidently you never heard of Strom Thurmond.
I’m a Goldwater/Reagan Republican...I live near Nashville...I hate Andrew Jackson and his racist party. Cherokee murderer.
And so they lie again to their slaves and then stab them in the back again by diluting their power filling the void will illegal aliens.
Stupid Dem blacks are in for a reckoning soon. Maybe they’ll come back to the party of freedom in the South.
Of course I’m 53 and will die before that.
So, where in your narrative does slavery in the pre-1861 South fit in?
Actually, most of how the bill got passed was an agreement to ignore the superior Boeing and Douglas designs (over Air Force objections), and pick the Lockheed version of what would become the C-5A, only because Lockheed had agreed to build it in the deep South. That brought the necessary deep South Democrat support necessary (mainly Wilbur Mills).
I said the pre-1861 South and your reference to ‘’tolerance’’ eludes me. How was slavery ‘’tolerance’’?
It did not refer to the labor system, corporation law or any of a host of other aspects of the culture or legal system. Southern tolerance would certainly have affected how the law was applied, of course; but that was not the subject of my comment. You are trying to make a statement; but the statement you are trying to make has no relevance to my point.
I was asking for a certain clarification, thank you.
Only closer examination I find you’re mighty full of yourself— and something else too.
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