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JJ on PBS "Jefferson Davis Democrats became Goldwater Republicans
Human Events ^ | John Gizzi  

Posted on 09/05/2012 7:41:25 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs

Separately, Jackson cited “a ‘New South’ that has been created largely by the civil rights marches and then by the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which President Johnson got passed through Congress in 1965.” One far-reaching effect of the Voting Rights Act, said Jackson, “is that politics have changed in the South. Jefferson Davis Democrats became Goldwater Republicans and the Lincoln Republicans became Johnson Democrats.”

Both Jackson and Metcalf agreed that a winning tactic on the part of the new Democratic coalition they envision is full-scale combat with the tea party conservatives and their agenda to cut government.

“45 percent of South Carolina’s economy is related to the federal government,” said Jackson, “The interstate highways are federal, and the seaports are federal. This state’s rights talk (about privatizing government programs and outlets) doesn’t stand up.”


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To: SwankyC
I am talking about the voting populace of the white south if whicberh I am a member old enough to remember at 55 and the crop of GOP. pols since then who followed social conservatism from post LBJ. Dempsey to the GOP diluting the existing social moderates there who had voted for the social liberalism of the 60s to begin with

There is no question of that...the voting white south fled to the GOP and pushed it right.

And btw...John Stennis was a patriot..democrat or nit...lookvit up.

21 posted on 09/05/2012 11:20:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: wardaddy
You, as usual, show a correct knowledge of political history. The swing of Southern Conservatives--and because of their swing, the gradual improvement in the Federal Judiciary, really started when Strom Thurmond switched parties in 1964 to support Barry Goldwater. It was Thurmond, also, who held Nixon & other Repupblican Presidents feet to the fire, thereafter, in trying to get more Conservatives on the Federal Bench.

Personally, through High School & College & Law School, I was a Conservative Democrat--my political identification with such men as Harry Byrd of Virginia--who was very well respected in Southern Ohio as a true statesman, by men in both political parties. While I began to work for Barry Goldwater's candidacy right after the 1960 election, I did not actually switch parties, myself until the 1964 campaign.

Without the Southern Conservative swing to the Republicans, neither Nixon nor Reagan could have been elected--nor for that matter would either Bush. That is political reality. It is truly a shame that at this late date, there is still such a terrible bias against Southern Conservatives.

Of course Jesse Jackson epitomizes what I have referred to as Creating Hate In America Today. Those who seek to deliberately undermine the rooted Southerners sense of heritage are no friends to any American future. It is the South where the largest percentage of the population still understand the multi-generational pursuit that is any nation, tribe, community or family.

Continue to keep the Faith!

Bill Flax

22 posted on 09/05/2012 11:29:25 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

So was Jesse Jackson a Jefferson Davis Democrat who became an LBJ Democrat? How’d that happen?


23 posted on 09/05/2012 11:30:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Pelham
Hilarious isn't it?

Don't these kids know every white person in America was a racist in 1955 by today's submissive white benchmark

And to deny that white democrat voters did not flock to the GOP from Nixon on to get away from Great Society excess is just willfull ignorance

Bet they don't know most GOP voted all that garbage and only Dixiecrats and GOP like Reagan...Buckley and Goldwater came out against that junk

Junk which laid the seeds for what they all whine about today...with good reason

Its a common thread here.ignorance framed by the ever present racial prism they simply cannot resist the lure of

24 posted on 09/05/2012 11:49:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: Ohioan

Long time no see Bill great to see some sanity on the thread

I saw anti Southern bias here first day 12 years ago

Its the culture...brainwashed the kids

Just imagine how bad the left must be


25 posted on 09/05/2012 11:55:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: wardaddy
The brainwashing has been accomplished by Leftists substituting their wish lists for how things "should be" for the reality of how things & people, actually were. We have been bombarded by a false "idealism," that reflects an implacable hatred of reality by people who suffer from the same malady as the Jacobins, who gave France the "Reign Of Terror," the Bolshevik Communists, who gave Russia over seventy years of pure hell; the Nazis who immersed Germany & most of Europe in a totally disastrous, self-destructive war, both on each other's armies & civilian populations; as Chairman Mao, who savaged the Chinese, with his "Cultural Revolution," etc..

The compulsion to try to force a uniformity on any population reflects a neurotic denial of the fact that people are all different--not the same--not at all the same. The South is most hated by such compulsion driven fanatics, not because you were ever the intolerant land that they seek to picture, but precisely the opposite. You were the land of Jefferson, the land of tolerance, of an individualism so deep that many of your Confederate Army Officers felt free to redesign their own uniforms; a land where at a time when the hate crazed Pennsylvania radical Thadeus Stephens was Karl Marx's pen pal--Marx being the actual framer of Hitler's rationalizations for demonizing the European Jews--had two Jewish Senators, one of whom was named Secretary of State for the Confederacy.

The false history of the South is easily refuted by such witnesses as Booker T. Washington, whose description of race relations in the 1890s paints the true picture that Hollywood & the NEA have been denying in both movies & classrooms since the 1950s.

Sorry to get up on a typing "soap box." It is just that we really need you folks on our side.

Always great to "hear" from you.

Bill

26 posted on 09/05/2012 12:32:38 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: KnutKase

Good stuff. Thanks, I needed that.


27 posted on 09/05/2012 1:14:17 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: KnutKase

Good stuff. Thanks, I needed that.


28 posted on 09/05/2012 1:18:14 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Like Senator Byrd.


29 posted on 09/05/2012 1:23:13 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: o2bfree

Where do you get your “history”?


30 posted on 09/05/2012 10:46:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the White House)
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To: Durus

Evidently you never heard of Strom Thurmond.


31 posted on 09/05/2012 10:47:51 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the White House)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I’m a Goldwater/Reagan Republican...I live near Nashville...I hate Andrew Jackson and his racist party. Cherokee murderer.


32 posted on 09/05/2012 10:50:56 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: wardaddy

And so they lie again to their slaves and then stab them in the back again by diluting their power filling the void will illegal aliens.

Stupid Dem blacks are in for a reckoning soon. Maybe they’ll come back to the party of freedom in the South.

Of course I’m 53 and will die before that.


33 posted on 09/05/2012 10:57:03 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Or maybe it should read,’’That Johnson appealed to the Republican minority in the Senate under Everett Dirkson(R-Wisconsin) for passage after Democrats in the House filibustered it''.
34 posted on 09/05/2012 11:06:32 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ohioan

So, where in your narrative does slavery in the pre-1861 South fit in?


35 posted on 09/05/2012 11:15:18 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Pelham
Of course I have but he wasn't the entirety of the Dixiecrat movement. The facts don't lie, the overwhelming majority of Dixiecrats went back to their Democrat roots when the party dissolved.
36 posted on 09/06/2012 5:31:40 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Jesse Jackson, the original affirmative action celebutard. He's a reverend of nothing and a political expert minus academia. Is he just that good or is he just that black?
37 posted on 09/06/2012 5:44:25 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: jmacusa

Actually, most of how the bill got passed was an agreement to ignore the superior Boeing and Douglas designs (over Air Force objections), and pick the Lockheed version of what would become the C-5A, only because Lockheed had agreed to build it in the deep South. That brought the necessary deep South Democrat support necessary (mainly Wilbur Mills).


38 posted on 09/06/2012 6:42:02 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: jmacusa
I posted a direct link to the Booker T. Washington speech, which puts the matter into an accurate perspective, in the reply to which you replied in your query. Read what he had to say, in the context of what is being argued in this thread.

William Flax

39 posted on 09/06/2012 8:15:39 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

I said the pre-1861 South and your reference to ‘’tolerance’’ eludes me. How was slavery ‘’tolerance’’?


40 posted on 09/06/2012 11:32:47 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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