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Tobacco and Nicotine Good as Pesticides
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Posted on 09/06/2012 8:41:37 AM PDT by Red Badger

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Soaking a bunch of cigarette butts in water overnight, then straining the liquid, adding 2 teaspoons of dish detergent to a gallon of water makes an effective insecticide..........
1 posted on 09/06/2012 8:41:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Isn't that how Tomacco started?

2 posted on 09/06/2012 8:43:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Red Badger

And you don’t have to buy them. Just go to any parking lot and pick up all you want. Usually in small piles where people dump their ashtrays out.


3 posted on 09/06/2012 8:47:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: Red Badger

I had a bottle of nicotine nitrate solution, to be used in a spray emulsion. In the past, nicotine was a commercial pesticide.


4 posted on 09/06/2012 8:48:05 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Red Badger
Nicotine is bad for you . . .

Then why does the Federal government subsidize its production?

5 posted on 09/06/2012 8:48:05 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: dfwgator

First it starts with ‘just a cherry tomato’, then you get the need for something more. Then you begin on the salad size, say it’s just a little salad tomato, then before you know it you’re wolfing down Beefsteaks two at a time............


6 posted on 09/06/2012 8:49:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Red Badger
Powder..patch..ball FIRE!

Be careful - Soaking tobacco and spraying the juice will do the same thing but can contain fungus that is contagious to tomato and potato plants - once in the soil it stays there.

7 posted on 09/06/2012 8:50:17 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: Red Badger

Pure nicotine is quite toxic. You can extract enough from three or four strong cigars to kill someone in less than a minute. I’ve read that if you squirted a full eyedropper of pure nicotine on the skin of a rabbit it will curl up and die.


8 posted on 09/06/2012 8:50:42 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: BallandPowder

I don’t recommend canned tobacco......


9 posted on 09/06/2012 8:52:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Red Badger

so how do I get the bed bugs to light up?


10 posted on 09/06/2012 8:56:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger

The best way to get nicotine is from wild tobacco, Nicotiana rustica. Common tobacco is about 1-3% nicotine, but wild tobacco comes in at a hearty 9%.


11 posted on 09/06/2012 8:56:46 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Red Badger

Deadly stuff that canned tobacco. Paw Paine used Prince Albert’s cans of tobacco in his pipe and rolled cigs, and he only lived into his early nineties. Probably had a can in his bib overlls when they found him.


12 posted on 09/06/2012 8:58:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Red Badger
Nicotine is a natural insecticide.

Tobacco evolved it to keep insects from eating the plant. The mood-altering (and addictive) effects that humans get from smoking it is just a coincidence.

Of course, tobacco companies have since controlled nicotine content through selective breeding. But, man didn't invent the nicotine insecticide: nature/evolution did.

13 posted on 09/06/2012 8:58:59 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: DBrow
In the past, nicotine was a commercial pesticide.

I used a commercial nicotine-based pesticide in my home garden 25 years ago so this is nothing new. As I recall it wasn't very effective.

14 posted on 09/06/2012 9:01:44 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: circlecity

I’ve heard that too. However, I put about a pound of cigarette butts in a gallon plastic jug, filled it with water and steeped it for about two years. Strained it out this summer for a pesticide and splashed a bunch of it on myself. Didn’t do a thing. It did make a colony of ants pick up and move though.


15 posted on 09/06/2012 9:01:53 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: justlurking

I can really go for a cigar or pipe right now


16 posted on 09/06/2012 9:05:47 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Red Badger
Nicotine is bad for you and apparently it has the same poisonous effect on pests, getting scientists' attention for a potential alternative to traditional commercial pesticides.

This is news? I believe farmers/gardners have been using this for quite some time.

17 posted on 09/06/2012 9:06:52 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Red Badger

Scientists are working hard to miniaturize lighters and cigarettes, in hopes that they can get troublesome insects to become addicted and die off.


18 posted on 09/06/2012 9:07:29 AM PDT by lurk
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To: circlecity
Pure nicotine is quite toxic. You can extract enough from three or four strong cigars to kill someone in less than a minute. I’ve read that if you squirted a full eyedropper of pure nicotine on the skin of a rabbit it will curl up and die.

This is one of those "gee how scary is that" statements that is extremely misleading. Plants are full of natural insecticides that are quite toxic to humans when concentrated. Even vitamins, when concentrated, can become toxic at low levels, as can many other chemicals found in vegetables. Look at the number of "toxins" in a potato.

Nicotine poisoning and overdose is quite rare, and there is no indication that ingestion at less than toxic levels has any negative health implications, and there is considerable evidence of positive benefits from less than toxic levels of ingestion.


19 posted on 09/06/2012 9:08:42 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: justlurking
Tobacco evolved it to keep insects from eating the plant.

Which begs the question why other plants did not also evolve this safe guard.

20 posted on 09/06/2012 9:09:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DBrow

Exactly. It is hardly a discovery to determine that nicotine is an effective herbicide.

That characteristic is part of the cause of “smoker’s cough” — over the years of smoking, the nicotine kills the ciliated epithelium in the lungs, and the smoker’s lung cannot naturally expel junk and dirt — so they cough and hack it out.


21 posted on 09/06/2012 9:09:27 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Red Badger

I remember grandma making tobacco water for just this purpose. Added to a flit sprayer, she used it on some crops in the garden.


22 posted on 09/06/2012 9:11:10 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Red Badger

Considering how the gov likes to fly over and spray pesticides on humanity, tobacco as a pesticide is a 100% sure way of killing the tomato crop.

It may also be a cheap way of getting a nicotine fix.
Breathe, breathe in the air, don’t be afraid to care....

and then the gov will wonder why more people may become addicted to smoking.


23 posted on 09/06/2012 9:15:10 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Red Badger

Jerry Baker has talked about this for years. As I recall he mixes with liquid soap to make it stick.


24 posted on 09/06/2012 9:16:26 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: MEGoody

“Organic” growers use nicotine-based pesticides; because they are less effective than modern pesticides they have to spray more often and in greater quantities. A lot of “organic” foods actually contain *more* pesticide residue than conventionally-grown crops.


25 posted on 09/06/2012 9:17:55 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Red Badger
They explained that tobacco leaves could be turned into pesticides by a process called pyrolysis, which involves heating up the tobacco leaves at 900 degrees Fahrenheit (482.2 degrees Celsius) in a vacuum.
Dumb and Dumber Democrat #1: "Groovy, dude! So when the cockroach goes in, he dies. The roaches check in but they don't check out, man."

Dumb and Dumber Democrat #2: "Dude! The heat doesn't kill them. It's the lung cancer."

Dumb and Dumber Democrat #1: "Oh, groovy, man! That's way betterer than DDT! No chemicals."

Together: "DOWn with DOW! DOWn with DOW!"... "Hey, man, don't bogart the joint."


26 posted on 09/06/2012 9:18:45 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: justlurking

27 posted on 09/06/2012 9:19:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Portcall24

Is Jerry Baker still around? My grandmother was buying his books 40 years ago. She grew the most beautiful roses.


28 posted on 09/06/2012 9:21:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MEGoody

The majority of phytochemicals that plants produce are toxic or distasteful to insects and other animals. Insects adapt pretty rapidly themselves. Other animals avoid the nasty plants when pickings are good and eat them when times are lean.


29 posted on 09/06/2012 9:22:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Don’t ever smoke in bed.....it’s hazardous to your health...........


30 posted on 09/06/2012 9:22:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: MHGinTN

Since I was a little kid I have known that tobacco juice is a better home remedy than costly Neosporin or anything else and ALWAYS keep a pouch of Mailpouch tobacco for things like poison ivy, mosquito stings, bee stings, athlete’s foot, or even, G-d forbid, ringworm or impetigo.
Soak some in water and put the wet tobacco right on whatever ails you and it works like magic. Old Indian folk remedy.


31 posted on 09/06/2012 9:27:35 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Arm_Bears

I think the tobacco subsidies have ended. It happened sometime in the last two or three years.


32 posted on 09/06/2012 9:28:00 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: MHGinTN

My grandfather, and his friends, back in the 60’s, dipped snuff (Tube Rose, Garretts, etc), chewed plug tobacco (Red Bull) occasionally had cigars and pipes.

But CIGARETTES were VERBOTEN DEVIL’S TOOLS!!!......


33 posted on 09/06/2012 9:31:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: MestaMachine

My grandfather made a foot soak with fresh tobacco leaves and hot water. Greenhouse managers use tobacco ‘candles’ to kill insect pests. ... And I smoked for decades and gave them up about eight years ago ... but I would pick them right back up if they figure out how to stop the components of tobacco from causing disease.


34 posted on 09/06/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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"Nicotine poisoning and overdose is quite rare, and there is no indication that ingestion at less than toxic levels has any negative health implications, and there is considerable evidence of positive benefits from less than toxic levels of ingestion."

I can't disagree with that but it would apply to just about any substance. I was certainly talking about distilling a very concentrated dosage of nicotine. The first rule of toxicity is dosage. The is arsenic in both broccoli and rat poison. One is healthy for you the other will kill you if you eat it.

35 posted on 09/06/2012 9:39:23 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: MHGinTN
Nicotine isn't all bad...

Therapeutic uses

The primary therapeutic use of nicotine is in treating nicotine dependence in order to eliminate smoking with the damage it does to health. Controlled levels of nicotine are given to patients through gums, dermal patches, lozenges, electronic/substitute cigarettes or nasal sprays in an effort to wean them off their dependence.

However, in a few situations, smoking has been observed to apparently be of therapeutic value. These are often referred to as "Smoker’s Paradoxes".[79] Although in most cases the actual mechanism is understood only poorly or not at all, it is generally believed that the principal beneficial action is due to the nicotine administered, and that administration of nicotine without smoking may be as beneficial as smoking, without the higher risk to health due to tar and other ingredients found in tobacco.

For instance, recent studies suggest that smokers require less frequent repeated revascularization after percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI).[79] Risk of ulcerative colitis has been frequently shown to be reduced by smokers on a dose-dependent basis; the effect is eliminated if the individual stops smoking.[80][81] Smoking also appears to interfere with development of Kaposi's sarcoma in patients with HIV.[82]

Nicotine reduces the chance of breast cancer among women carrying the very high risk BRCA gene,[83] preeclampsia,[84] and atopic disorders such as allergic asthma.[85] A plausible mechanism of action in these cases may be nicotine acting as an anti-inflammatory agent, and interfering with the inflammation-related disease process, as nicotine has vasoconstrictive effects.[86]

Tobacco smoke has been shown to contain compounds capable of inhibiting monoamine oxidase, which is responsible for the degradation of dopamine in the human brain. When dopamine is broken down by MAO-B, neurotoxic by-products are formed, possibly contributing to Parkinson's and Alzheimers disease.[87] Many such papers regarding Alzheimer's disease[88] and Parkinson's Disease[89] have been published. While tobacco smoking is associated with an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease,[90] there is evidence that nicotine itself has the potential to prevent and treat Alzheimer's disease.[91] Nicotine has been shown to delay the onset of Parkinson's disease in studies involving monkeys and humans.[92][93][94] A study has shown a protective effect of nicotine itself on neurons due to nicotine activation of α7-nAChR and the PI3K/Akt pathway which inhibits apoptosis-inducing factor release and mitochondrial translocation, cytochrome c release and caspase 3 activation.[95]

Recent studies have indicated that nicotine can be used to help adults suffering from autosomal dominant nocturnal frontal lobe epilepsy. The same areas that cause seizures in that form of epilepsy are responsible for processing nicotine in the brain.[96]

Studies suggest a correlation between smoking and schizophrenia, with estimates near 75% for the proportion of schizophrenic patients who smoke. Although the nature of this association remains unclear, it was recently argued that the increased level of smoking in schizophrenia may be due to a desire to self-medicate with nicotine.[97][98] More recent research has found that mildly dependent users got some benefit from nicotine, but not those who were highly dependent.[99] There are very few research done on this subject, including the research by Duke University Medical Centre which found that nicotine may improve the symptoms of depression in people.[100] Nicotine appears to improve ADHD symptoms. Some studies are focusing on benefits of nicotine therapy in adults with ADHD.[101]

While acute/initial nicotine intake causes activation of nicotine receptors, chronic low doses of nicotine use leads to desensitisation of nicotine receptors (due to the development of tolerance) and results in an antidepressant effect, with research showing low dose nicotine patches being an effective treatment of major depressive disorder in non-smokers.[102]

Nicotine (in the form of chewing gum or a transdermal patch) is being explored as an experimental treatment for OCD. Small studies show some success, even in otherwise treatment-refractory cases.[103][104][105]

The relationship between smoking and inflammatory bowel disease is now firmly established but remains a source of confusion among both patients and doctors. It is negatively associated with ulcerative colitis but positively associated with Crohn's disease. In addition, it has opposite influences on the clinical course of the two conditions with benefit in ulcerative colitis but a detrimental effect in Crohn's disease.[106][107]

You could always use an e-cigarette to get the nicotine without the other 60+ alkaloids and carbon monoxide.

36 posted on 09/06/2012 9:45:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ever so often you’ll see his videos as gifts on PBS. I taped him years ago to look over. Often his books are in 2nd hand/thrift stores.


37 posted on 09/06/2012 9:46:33 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: justlurking
Tobacco evolved it to keep insects from eating the plant.

Hope cows, pigs and chickens don't get wind of this evolving thing.

38 posted on 09/06/2012 9:54:53 AM PDT by Starstruck (It's all Obama's fault)
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To: TigersEye
Is nicotine gum an OTC yet? ... I used to smoke like a chimney when writing ... not smoking now and my righting is geting poorer and ppoorer. I wonders if nicotine gum could help?
39 posted on 09/06/2012 9:56:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
Yes it's OTC and I use the lozenges. I quit smoking off an on for 10 years and always would go back due to my nicotine addiction and find it works wonders for when I'm craving a cigarette which I still do even though I quit smoking well over a year ago. Don't know what it is about nicotine but it calms me down and keeps me focused so can understand your dilemma believe me! Good luck
40 posted on 09/06/2012 10:02:51 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t know for sure but I think it might be OTC now. I have a bunch that was given to me years ago. Hard as a rock now but I’m sure the nicotine content is intact. I consider it a prepper supply for TEOTWAWKI. LOL


41 posted on 09/06/2012 10:03:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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I had a great uncle who chewed snuff and lived to be 92.
When he died New York State listed “tobacco use” as a contributing cause of death on his death certificate. Gotta pad those stats you know.


42 posted on 09/06/2012 10:04:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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You forgot the caption:

The real reason dinosaurs became extinct.

It was really popular around my office at the time Gary Larsen published it, before smoking had been banned indoors. It mysteriously appeared on bulletin boards and certain office doors.

43 posted on 09/06/2012 10:09:03 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: MissyMa
Thanks for the tip. I'm going to the grocery today, so I'll pick up some of the gum. Are you supposed to let the saliva sit under your tongue, as were the directions years ago? I was told many years ago by a professional football player during summer training camp that he used nicotine as a diet aid ... helped suppress his appetite IIRC. Swallowing tobacco juice from a chaw he said helped shrink his stomach, too.
44 posted on 09/06/2012 10:12:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: TigersEye; MestaMachine

From what Lady Mesta said, sounds like a couple or four bags of chaw would be a good set aside for prepping, too!


45 posted on 09/06/2012 10:14:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
Yes that's what you are supposed to do with the gum but I could never do it and would get a full dose of nicotine in less than 5 minutes as I was chewing it. :-p.

With the lozenges I get that nicotine in 20 minutes or more as it's more time released.

Never knew it was used as a diet aide but can understand why it would work as I'll sometimes grab a lozenge when I feel like mindless snacking when not hungry.

46 posted on 09/06/2012 10:18:11 AM PDT by MissyMa
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I'm still smoking the darned stuff. I buy it in 5 lb. bags for about $16 per lb. while my e-cigs sit gathering dust next to the 'puter. That leaves me with several bottles of e-cig juice as a set aside. And I have tobacco seed.

The gov can do what it wants. I'm calm and the insects are nervous around here.

47 posted on 09/06/2012 10:20:39 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

where does the wild variety grow?


48 posted on 09/06/2012 10:24:52 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Red Badger

I find it interesting that they are discussing tobacco pyrolysis products and using the term “green” which most people equate as safe.

It is the pyrolysis products of tobacco that constitute the carcinogens found in cigarette smoke.


49 posted on 09/06/2012 10:29:35 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Red Badger

Pest control agents for the garden have long been nicotine based. My MIL used nicotine on her garden 40 years ago as an old remedy for bugs. I smoked at the time and she used to badger me by telling me that what I was smoking is what she killed bugs with.


50 posted on 09/06/2012 10:49:15 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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