Skip to comments.Tobacco and Nicotine – Good as Pesticides
Posted on 09/06/2012 8:41:37 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Isn't that how Tomacco started?
And you don’t have to buy them. Just go to any parking lot and pick up all you want. Usually in small piles where people dump their ashtrays out.
I had a bottle of nicotine nitrate solution, to be used in a spray emulsion. In the past, nicotine was a commercial pesticide.
Then why does the Federal government subsidize its production?
First it starts with ‘just a cherry tomato’, then you get the need for something more. Then you begin on the salad size, say it’s just a little salad tomato, then before you know it you’re wolfing down Beefsteaks two at a time............
Be careful - Soaking tobacco and spraying the juice will do the same thing but can contain fungus that is contagious to tomato and potato plants - once in the soil it stays there.
Pure nicotine is quite toxic. You can extract enough from three or four strong cigars to kill someone in less than a minute. I’ve read that if you squirted a full eyedropper of pure nicotine on the skin of a rabbit it will curl up and die.
I don’t recommend canned tobacco......
so how do I get the bed bugs to light up?
The best way to get nicotine is from wild tobacco, Nicotiana rustica. Common tobacco is about 1-3% nicotine, but wild tobacco comes in at a hearty 9%.
Deadly stuff that canned tobacco. Paw Paine used Prince Albert’s cans of tobacco in his pipe and rolled cigs, and he only lived into his early nineties. Probably had a can in his bib overlls when they found him.
Tobacco evolved it to keep insects from eating the plant. The mood-altering (and addictive) effects that humans get from smoking it is just a coincidence.
Of course, tobacco companies have since controlled nicotine content through selective breeding. But, man didn't invent the nicotine insecticide: nature/evolution did.
I used a commercial nicotine-based pesticide in my home garden 25 years ago so this is nothing new. As I recall it wasn't very effective.
I’ve heard that too. However, I put about a pound of cigarette butts in a gallon plastic jug, filled it with water and steeped it for about two years. Strained it out this summer for a pesticide and splashed a bunch of it on myself. Didn’t do a thing. It did make a colony of ants pick up and move though.
I can really go for a cigar or pipe right now
This is news? I believe farmers/gardners have been using this for quite some time.
Scientists are working hard to miniaturize lighters and cigarettes, in hopes that they can get troublesome insects to become addicted and die off.
Which begs the question why other plants did not also evolve this safe guard.
Exactly. It is hardly a discovery to determine that nicotine is an effective herbicide.
That characteristic is part of the cause of “smoker’s cough” — over the years of smoking, the nicotine kills the ciliated epithelium in the lungs, and the smoker’s lung cannot naturally expel junk and dirt — so they cough and hack it out.
I remember grandma making tobacco water for just this purpose. Added to a flit sprayer, she used it on some crops in the garden.
Considering how the gov likes to fly over and spray pesticides on humanity, tobacco as a pesticide is a 100% sure way of killing the tomato crop.
It may also be a cheap way of getting a nicotine fix.
Breathe, breathe in the air, don’t be afraid to care....
and then the gov will wonder why more people may become addicted to smoking.
Jerry Baker has talked about this for years. As I recall he mixes with liquid soap to make it stick.
“Organic” growers use nicotine-based pesticides; because they are less effective than modern pesticides they have to spray more often and in greater quantities. A lot of “organic” foods actually contain *more* pesticide residue than conventionally-grown crops.
Dumb and Dumber Democrat #1: "Groovy, dude! So when the cockroach goes in, he dies. The roaches check in but they don't check out, man."
Dumb and Dumber Democrat #2: "Dude! The heat doesn't kill them. It's the lung cancer."
Dumb and Dumber Democrat #1: "Oh, groovy, man! That's way betterer than DDT! No chemicals."
Together: "DOWn with DOW! DOWn with DOW!"... "Hey, man, don't bogart the joint."
Is Jerry Baker still around? My grandmother was buying his books 40 years ago. She grew the most beautiful roses.
The majority of phytochemicals that plants produce are toxic or distasteful to insects and other animals. Insects adapt pretty rapidly themselves. Other animals avoid the nasty plants when pickings are good and eat them when times are lean.
Don’t ever smoke in bed.....it’s hazardous to your health...........
Since I was a little kid I have known that tobacco juice is a better home remedy than costly Neosporin or anything else and ALWAYS keep a pouch of Mailpouch tobacco for things like poison ivy, mosquito stings, bee stings, athlete’s foot, or even, G-d forbid, ringworm or impetigo.
Soak some in water and put the wet tobacco right on whatever ails you and it works like magic. Old Indian folk remedy.
I think the tobacco subsidies have ended. It happened sometime in the last two or three years.
My grandfather, and his friends, back in the 60’s, dipped snuff (Tube Rose, Garretts, etc), chewed plug tobacco (Red Bull) occasionally had cigars and pipes.
But CIGARETTES were VERBOTEN DEVIL’S TOOLS!!!......
My grandfather made a foot soak with fresh tobacco leaves and hot water. Greenhouse managers use tobacco ‘candles’ to kill insect pests. ... And I smoked for decades and gave them up about eight years ago ... but I would pick them right back up if they figure out how to stop the components of tobacco from causing disease.
I can't disagree with that but it would apply to just about any substance. I was certainly talking about distilling a very concentrated dosage of nicotine. The first rule of toxicity is dosage. The is arsenic in both broccoli and rat poison. One is healthy for you the other will kill you if you eat it.
The primary therapeutic use of nicotine is in treating nicotine dependence in order to eliminate smoking with the damage it does to health. Controlled levels of nicotine are given to patients through gums, dermal patches, lozenges, electronic/substitute cigarettes or nasal sprays in an effort to wean them off their dependence.
However, in a few situations, smoking has been observed to apparently be of therapeutic value. These are often referred to as "Smokers Paradoxes". Although in most cases the actual mechanism is understood only poorly or not at all, it is generally believed that the principal beneficial action is due to the nicotine administered, and that administration of nicotine without smoking may be as beneficial as smoking, without the higher risk to health due to tar and other ingredients found in tobacco.
For instance, recent studies suggest that smokers require less frequent repeated revascularization after percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI). Risk of ulcerative colitis has been frequently shown to be reduced by smokers on a dose-dependent basis; the effect is eliminated if the individual stops smoking. Smoking also appears to interfere with development of Kaposi's sarcoma in patients with HIV.
Nicotine reduces the chance of breast cancer among women carrying the very high risk BRCA gene, preeclampsia, and atopic disorders such as allergic asthma. A plausible mechanism of action in these cases may be nicotine acting as an anti-inflammatory agent, and interfering with the inflammation-related disease process, as nicotine has vasoconstrictive effects.
Tobacco smoke has been shown to contain compounds capable of inhibiting monoamine oxidase, which is responsible for the degradation of dopamine in the human brain. When dopamine is broken down by MAO-B, neurotoxic by-products are formed, possibly contributing to Parkinson's and Alzheimers disease. Many such papers regarding Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's Disease have been published. While tobacco smoking is associated with an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease, there is evidence that nicotine itself has the potential to prevent and treat Alzheimer's disease. Nicotine has been shown to delay the onset of Parkinson's disease in studies involving monkeys and humans. A study has shown a protective effect of nicotine itself on neurons due to nicotine activation of α7-nAChR and the PI3K/Akt pathway which inhibits apoptosis-inducing factor release and mitochondrial translocation, cytochrome c release and caspase 3 activation.
Recent studies have indicated that nicotine can be used to help adults suffering from autosomal dominant nocturnal frontal lobe epilepsy. The same areas that cause seizures in that form of epilepsy are responsible for processing nicotine in the brain.
Studies suggest a correlation between smoking and schizophrenia, with estimates near 75% for the proportion of schizophrenic patients who smoke. Although the nature of this association remains unclear, it was recently argued that the increased level of smoking in schizophrenia may be due to a desire to self-medicate with nicotine. More recent research has found that mildly dependent users got some benefit from nicotine, but not those who were highly dependent. There are very few research done on this subject, including the research by Duke University Medical Centre which found that nicotine may improve the symptoms of depression in people. Nicotine appears to improve ADHD symptoms. Some studies are focusing on benefits of nicotine therapy in adults with ADHD.
While acute/initial nicotine intake causes activation of nicotine receptors, chronic low doses of nicotine use leads to desensitisation of nicotine receptors (due to the development of tolerance) and results in an antidepressant effect, with research showing low dose nicotine patches being an effective treatment of major depressive disorder in non-smokers.
Nicotine (in the form of chewing gum or a transdermal patch) is being explored as an experimental treatment for OCD. Small studies show some success, even in otherwise treatment-refractory cases.
The relationship between smoking and inflammatory bowel disease is now firmly established but remains a source of confusion among both patients and doctors. It is negatively associated with ulcerative colitis but positively associated with Crohn's disease. In addition, it has opposite influences on the clinical course of the two conditions with benefit in ulcerative colitis but a detrimental effect in Crohn's disease.
You could always use an e-cigarette to get the nicotine without the other 60+ alkaloids and carbon monoxide.
Ever so often you’ll see his videos as gifts on PBS. I taped him years ago to look over. Often his books are in 2nd hand/thrift stores.
Hope cows, pigs and chickens don't get wind of this evolving thing.
I don’t know for sure but I think it might be OTC now. I have a bunch that was given to me years ago. Hard as a rock now but I’m sure the nicotine content is intact. I consider it a prepper supply for TEOTWAWKI. LOL
I had a great uncle who chewed snuff and lived to be 92.
When he died New York State listed “tobacco use” as a contributing cause of death on his death certificate. Gotta pad those stats you know.
The real reason dinosaurs became extinct.
It was really popular around my office at the time Gary Larsen published it, before smoking had been banned indoors. It mysteriously appeared on bulletin boards and certain office doors.
From what Lady Mesta said, sounds like a couple or four bags of chaw would be a good set aside for prepping, too!
With the lozenges I get that nicotine in 20 minutes or more as it's more time released.
Never knew it was used as a diet aide but can understand why it would work as I'll sometimes grab a lozenge when I feel like mindless snacking when not hungry.
The gov can do what it wants. I'm calm and the insects are nervous around here.
where does the wild variety grow?
I find it interesting that they are discussing tobacco pyrolysis products and using the term “green” which most people equate as safe.
It is the pyrolysis products of tobacco that constitute the carcinogens found in cigarette smoke.
Pest control agents for the garden have long been nicotine based. My MIL used nicotine on her garden 40 years ago as an old remedy for bugs. I smoked at the time and she used to badger me by telling me that what I was smoking is what she killed bugs with.
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