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Child Care Costs Could Cause Higher Unemployment Rate
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Posted on 09/07/2012 5:01:06 AM PDT by RC one

The unemployment rate for July 2011 was at 9.1% nationwide, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. With an increase in the cost of child care, the country may well see a rise in that statistic. Working parents strain to come up with the money to pay child care costs and, in some cases, find that they would be better off not working at all. When you take into account the costs of gas to commute, business attire and other expenses that come with having a job outside the home, most families are not netting enough to cover the rest of their expenses. For some, the cost of child care combined with these expenditures is more than their total wages.


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KEYWORDS: childcare; parenting
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and, in some cases, find that they would be better off not working at all.

Actually, you would be better off not having children that you can't afford. It's no accident that you had 3 or more children out of wedlock and don't blame the dead beat dad. You knew he was a loser when you slept with him/them. Your situation was. no. accident. and you are both UNFIT TO BE PARENTS. It's not our responsibility to pay for your childcare or your day care or to subsidize your poor choices or to perpetuate this cycle of dependency that you are passing on to your offspring.

1 posted on 09/07/2012 5:01:12 AM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

Young families are sinking in this country, and with them, the future of the country is sinking.


2 posted on 09/07/2012 5:11:36 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: RC one

Pesky breeders, ehh?

Going back to how things were before rainbow feminazis destroyed the family, when dad brought home the bacon and mom cared for the kids — isn’t necessarily a bad thing.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 5:15:53 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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I’m a stay at home father (by choice) with two wonderful little girls in elementary school. If i were to find a job and leave my children’s after school care to a person that’s unlicensed, I might be able to get them in for a about a thousand a month. If I go to a licensed place, figure 2k per.. which is considerably more than I would be making if I was working in Obama’s recovery. I figure my monthly expenses for a job in my profession would be about $600 commuting, $2,000 childcare and another $300 monthly for expenses. So easily $3k(+-) per just to walk out the door not to mention a wardrobe overhaul of about $4,000. I would have to bring home $36k/yr which equals a salary of close to $60K/yr when you take taxes into account.
We will just have to wait until we have real economic leadership so I can get back out there and produce again.


4 posted on 09/07/2012 5:16:46 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: newnhdad
I am a stay-at-home Grandpa.

I run Camp Grandpa during the summer with golf, fishing, swimming, arcades, bicycling, cooking and running errands.

During the school year, I run Grandpa's Infirmary as well as taxi service.

My daughter and SIL both thank me repeatedly, as my doing this allows them to both work and provide private school for my grandsons.

My wife and I shared those same duties when our kids were growing up, as we ran our own business and could cover for each other. Silly us, we should have noticed the roads and bridges nearby and realized we really did not need to work such long hours to make ends meet.

Oh, well. Gonna miss those little dudes when they get too grown-up to be with me.

5 posted on 09/07/2012 5:33:14 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: newnhdad

Like lawn work, snow shoveling, housekeeping....the government just had to stick their nose into babysitting...and get a piece of the action and set up their own little babysitting service....called Head-Start....meals included.


6 posted on 09/07/2012 5:33:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RC one
Interestingly enough in a country with 53% of recent college graduates unemployed your comments are essentially irrelevant and not worth making.

High rates of unemployment result in lower average incomes in the aggregate, and actual lower incomes for those who can find a job.

Biology doesn't care one way or the other for economics ~ just find a hole to burrow into, some roots to eat, and those babies show up anyway.

Family formation, in the long term, is very important to the future of our nation. Current government policy discourages family formation

7 posted on 09/07/2012 5:42:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sacajaweau

I got a peek behind the curtain at my youngest daughter’s pre-school compliance. They had to pay a person 20hrs a week as a compliance manager to keep up with all the rules and regs for federal, state, county.

It seems that whenever someone has more than three neighborhood kids over their house and one does something stupid, they lawmakers try to solve it. Now my neighbors can’t watch our kids for free because they don’t have a license.


8 posted on 09/07/2012 5:45:49 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: muawiyah
Current government policy discourages family formation.

Only among those who are willing to produce and work.

It may sound "raisis" (can you hear the dog whistle) but if you part of the welfare culture, current government policy encourages reproduction. The circumstances may not be luxurious, but food, lodging, medicine, and to some degree childcare are heavily subsidized.

The working stiff can't even deduct necessities from his income on his tax returns.

9 posted on 09/07/2012 5:47:48 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I said 'family formation' ~ reproduction will happen if you follow the directions on that box top that says 'Tab A into Slot B'.

Government policy discourages family formation.

10 posted on 09/07/2012 5:52:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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I said 'family formation'

OK... I'm with you there.

11 posted on 09/07/2012 5:57:49 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: newnhdad

Where do you live? That is outrageous.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 6:56:29 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: newnhdad
Now my neighbors can’t watch our kids for free because they don’t have a license.

Pretty stupid seeing as parents we don't need licenses to raise our own kids. I can see being licensed if you have a facility or are watching a bunch of children.

13 posted on 09/07/2012 7:02:40 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: RC one

My daughter has 2 little girls. She is college educated and was married when both girls were conceived. Her Military husband kicked all of them out and moved in some slut he met on facebook.

My daughter can barely make the bills. She had to find a job (after being a stay-at-home mother) in the worst economy I can remember. What she found was good and related to her degree but she had to work shifts and call-ins. She can’t do that and leave a 3 and 5 year old at home alone. We live 5 hours away and cannot watch the girls while she works. SHe found another job...straight days...but between childcare and gas costs, she was paying more then she was earning.

Now, she sells cosmetics on her own schedule.

Maybe you should have a clue before you paint all parents with such a broad brush....


14 posted on 09/07/2012 7:05:08 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: OldEarlGray

Yeah, right? Imagine NOT dropping off your kid into some smelly, dirty, germ infested center with a minimum waged warm body and 30 other kids walking around aimlessly for 10 hours a day.


15 posted on 09/07/2012 7:05:33 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: mom4melody

That’s a really crappy story. I hope your daughter comes through it stronger and better for it.


16 posted on 09/07/2012 7:07:09 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri

Thank you.

I hope her ex falls off his ship and drowns.


17 posted on 09/07/2012 7:09:44 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: mom4melody

No-Fault divorce is also a factor here, it was better when divorces were difficult to get. Marriages fail because when it’s easy to get divorced, people get married thinking it’s just the next phase of the relationship, and they can back out just as easily as when they first started dating. It used to be when you found out somebody was a divorcee, it was like wearing a scarlet “D”. Nowadays, there’s no shame in it.


18 posted on 09/07/2012 7:18:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: mom4melody

If her hubby is still on active duty she would have been getting up to 60% of his check.


19 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:16 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: dfwgator

Divorce?

I wish. This “divorce” has been ongoing for 2.5 years, and so far has cost us $31,000.

They live in New York state. Do I need to say more....


20 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:53 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: USAF80

Not in New York.

The judge decided that since she moved back to her home state the night he kicked her out(I guess she was supposed to live in her car until the Divorce was final) he stripped her of that, even though the regs say different.


21 posted on 09/07/2012 7:24:15 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: dfwgator

I think if more kids were placed with their fathers in divorces you would see a drastic reduction in divorces. Women would think twice before resorting to the divorce route.

The big money earner should get the children. Makes sense.


22 posted on 09/07/2012 7:27:05 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: mom4melody

If she still has an ID and he is still in he has to take care of them regardless of what the court says.

It does not matter which state or even country you live in you have to take care of your dependents until they are no longer your dependent.


23 posted on 09/07/2012 7:32:19 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

SHe gets child support but is no where near what the military regs say she should get.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 7:47:07 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: USAF80

Really?

I believe if more men got the Bobbitt treatment for adultery they might think twice before resorting to screwing the first skank they find too...

The loyal spouse should get to keep their sex organs...makes perfect sense to me.


25 posted on 09/07/2012 7:51:32 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: mom4melody

The military don’t set child support. That is set by the state. The military sets the limits on how much child support can be taken out.

You have to file in the state that you are in not the state you want to live in.

Depending on if they lived on base or off would determine if he could actually “kick them out”. Even if they lived off post there are still resources that she had available that would have prevented her from sleeping in her car.

I had to deal with these issues from time to time so I have a lil background on how things work.


26 posted on 09/07/2012 8:05:48 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: mom4melody

What does adultery have to do with economics? The money earner should keep the kids.


27 posted on 09/07/2012 8:07:58 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

What does economics have to do with decent parenting?


28 posted on 09/07/2012 8:28:11 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: USAF80

She tried to work through the military. She called the base, then the bases commander, then I called the district office cammander’s office because I work right down the street.

They did NOTHING. The Ex even threatened to go shoot up his base because he got demoted and the officals ignored that too.

She had no choice about not staying in NY. She had no resources at the time and went where she could at least get family help.

They didn’t live on base, they lived in a house WE helped them buy.

I cannot even begin to tell you all the evil stuff that jackass pulled. I cannot begin to tell you what a joke NY jurisprudence is.

For all the military’s big talk about honor, in reality, they don’t follow through.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 8:38:49 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: RC one

It can easily cost too much for single and even married moms to go to work when they are at minimum wage and don’t have an extended family to help out.

In the scheme of globalism, it is guarenteed wages will sink to the lowest common denominator of the turd world. What a mess. World trade agreements (foreign entanglements)have made this problem structural and guarenteed for Europe and America. Globalism is for globalists.


30 posted on 09/07/2012 8:38:57 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: USAF80
I think if more kids were placed with their fathers in divorces you would see a drastic reduction in divorces.

More and more I am seeing a 50/50 split.

31 posted on 09/07/2012 9:08:24 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: USAF80

Maryland and now VA. They had a few unlicensed “daycare” busts recently (children getting abused) and now because of that, I have to either have my children at a “licensed facility” or at my house. I can’t have my neighbor care for my kids after school at her house while I work a full time job. That constitutes a service, even if it’s free, and in order to provide that, she needs a license. They play over there all the time but I can’t use her for “daily childcare” unless she has a license. If anything were to happen, she could get hosed for running an unlicensed facility and I will be cited for abandonment.


32 posted on 09/07/2012 9:27:53 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: N. Theknow

It sounds like you live in paradise!


33 posted on 09/07/2012 9:30:58 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: newnhdad

I’m sure you have to spend money to be licensed. What to prevent abuse in a licensed facility?


34 posted on 09/07/2012 9:56:00 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: mom4melody

Which branch and where?


35 posted on 09/07/2012 9:56:50 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: RC one

Obviously We the People are suffering a shortage here of Federally Unionized Child-Care...just to round out the nanny-state!!


36 posted on 09/07/2012 10:06:21 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: mom4melody

A distant relation has been going through a costly divorce from a mil-spouse that took off and went back to crazy ex.

He has done some unbelievable stuff too


37 posted on 09/07/2012 10:08:32 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: mom4melody

A distant relation has been going through a costly divorce from a mil-spouse that took off and went back to crazy ex.

He has done some unbelievable stuff too


38 posted on 09/07/2012 10:09:05 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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The women pull some unbelievable things too. Military members deploy. I have known guys six months into deployment and wife three months pregnant.

Them lil fellas don’t stick around that long.


39 posted on 09/07/2012 10:12:45 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: N. Theknow

Ha ha—what a hero you must be to your family!


40 posted on 09/07/2012 10:18:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: N. Theknow

Ha ha—what a hero you must be to your family!


41 posted on 09/07/2012 10:25:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: USAF80

Coast Guard - Buffalo and Rochester NY, District 9


42 posted on 09/07/2012 10:26:38 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: USAF80

I don’t disagree, there are mothers that should not be allowed near puppies, much less their own children.

And fathers do tend to be screwed more then women in a divorce.

I just don’t think money should determine the better parent.


43 posted on 09/07/2012 10:30:00 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: mom4melody

That explains a lot. The USCG is not a typical branch of the military. They are not under the Dept of Defense until wartime. The rules are a lot different, same thing for Guard and Reserves.

What you described would not have happen with active duty.


44 posted on 09/07/2012 10:35:39 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

I regret hiring the attorney when I should ahve hired one of the Sopranos.....


45 posted on 09/07/2012 10:43:29 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: USAF80

I regret hiring the attorney when I should have hired one of the Sopranos.....


46 posted on 09/07/2012 10:44:16 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: USAF80

I have no idea..


47 posted on 09/07/2012 10:56:58 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: USAF80

Saw plenty of cases of mil wives gone wild too. Glad I never got caught up in any.


48 posted on 09/07/2012 11:37:28 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: CSM
It sounds like you live in paradise!

As a matter of fact whenever someone asks about my day my response is, "Just another day in paradise."

I also realize that my daughter and SIL will be choosing my nursing home and be my sole source of connecting with the outside world when that time comes.

49 posted on 09/07/2012 11:50:59 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: 9YearLurker
Ha ha—what a hero you must be to your family!

Just someone who realizes that my daughter and SIL will be the ones to choose my retirement home. And they and my grandsons will be my main source of interaction with the world when that time comes.

50 posted on 09/07/2012 11:53:10 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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