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Disaster Dozen: 12 Myths of Disaster Preparedness
Emergency Management.com ^ | 9/7/12 | Paul Purcell

Posted on 09/07/2012 2:23:13 PM PDT by Kartographer

1. If something happens all I have to do is call 911.
2. All I need is a 72-hour kit with a flashlight, first aid kit, some food and water, and a radio.
3. My insurance policy will take care of everything.
4. Good preparedness is too expensive and complicated.
5. We can only form a neighborhood group through FEMA, the Red Cross or local law enforcement.
6. In a weapons of mass destruction (WMD) terrorist attack, we’re all dead anyway.
7. Nothing like that could ever happen here.
8. All I have to worry about is my own family.
9. If preparedness were really important it would be taught in school.
10. I can get free preparedness information on the Internet.
11. Full preparedness means I have to get a lot of guns and be a survivalist.
12. If something really bad happens, no one will help.


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1 posted on 09/07/2012 2:23:15 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 09/07/2012 2:27:19 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
9 was taught in school in the 50's. Ask anyone under 30 what this is all about.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 2:28:12 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Kartographer

Full preparedness means I have to get a lot of guns and be a survivalist.

Well, yes..


4 posted on 09/07/2012 2:28:38 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to your ping list.

In particular, I am hunting good ideas for purchased food to go stick in my cellar (dry, 50 degrees year around).


5 posted on 09/07/2012 2:32:27 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: Kartographer

13 - have a battery-powered radio available so you can stay informed on what’s happening if the power goes out - during Hurricane Irene last year our power was off for fourteen hours but our battery radio was almost useless - except for sporatic bits of information on the storm, most radio stations kept on with their same inane programming of crappy music and occasional callins about what was going on in some guy’s local neighborhood - we finally managed to tune into the sound channel of TV channel 6, which is at the ultra low end of the FM band, and they were doing running updates of where the storm was and where it was going - so much for battery power.....


6 posted on 09/07/2012 2:35:43 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: TheThirdRuffian

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”


7 posted on 09/07/2012 2:38:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Full preparedness means I have to get a lot of guns and be a survivalist.

And that's a bad thing?

8 posted on 09/07/2012 2:40:48 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: lookout88
What exactly is the opposite of a survivalist?

/johnny

9 posted on 09/07/2012 2:41:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

I have a 1500W power inverter in my Jeep. Great for running a few things in an emergency.


10 posted on 09/07/2012 2:41:22 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: lookout88
What exactly is the opposite of a survivalist?

/johnny

11 posted on 09/07/2012 2:41:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Find a radio with NOAA channels on it.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 2:42:40 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
I am hunting good ideas for purchased food to go stick in my cellar

As a food service professional, and a cheap barstid, I suggest just buying more of what you normally buy, when it's on sale. Over the years, I've saved about 20% by buying in bulk on sales items that I'm going to use anyway.

It pays in 2 ways: Original savings on the sale price, and secondary savings over time, because you KNOW the price isn't going to go down on anything in the grocery store.

/johnny

13 posted on 09/07/2012 2:45:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
You don't necessarily need a lot of guns. You need a couple of guns and a lot of ammo. "A lot of guns" is more fun, though.

SnakeDoc

14 posted on 09/07/2012 2:49:13 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: JRandomFreeper
What exactly is the opposite of a survivalist?

A victim?

15 posted on 09/07/2012 2:49:35 PM PDT by Starstruck (It's all Obama's fault)
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To: Kartographer

1. If something happens I could call 911. Of course, that might make the problem far worse. Whether to call 911 is a decision to be made based on whether an official response is more likely than not to be helpful.

2. I should start with a 72-hour kit with a flashlight, first aid kit, some food and water, and a radio. From that point, I should expand my preparations based on resources, needs, and anticipated emergency situations.

3. My insurance policy will take care of everything covered in the policy, eventually, and if the company is not overwhelmed by the situation.

4. Good preparedness is too expensive and complicated to do all at once, but small steps one at a time can add up to good preparedness.

5. We can only form a neighborhood group through contact with our neighbors. It is critical to know which neighbors will be helpful in defending the community and which are likely to pose an immediate danger to others.

6. In a weapons of mass destruction (WMD) terrorist attack, there will be survivors even near ground zero. In Japan, 597 people survived within 1 km of the detonation sites, including Akiko Takakura at 300 m. Tsutomu Yamaguchi was outside 1km but was burned and injured in Hiroshima before returning to his home in Nagasaki in time to be burned and injured in that detonation.

7. History repeats itself.

8. All I have to worry about is my own family, my friends, and especially those neighbors and strangers who are not my friends and are not moral people.

9. There are many really important things that are not taught in school, and since the mid-1960s preparedness has been one of them. Fortunately, the Boy Scouts teach many aspects of preparedness and will continue to do so despite liberal hatred for moral values and for independence.

10. I can get free preparedness information on the Internet. [This one - not a myth - was right!] One of the best sources is http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf from Kartographer.

11. Full preparedness means I have to get the right guns or self-defense equipment and be ready to respond as necessary to violence or evil in order to survive.

12. If something really bad happens, some people will help, but it may not be quick, it may not be the government or others some would expect to see helping, and we will not get help or even neutrality from everyone we encounter.


16 posted on 09/07/2012 2:50:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer
If preparedness were really important it would be taught in school.

Why isn't it?

17 posted on 09/07/2012 2:55:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“What exactly is the opposite of a survivalist?”

A fatalist.


18 posted on 09/07/2012 3:02:59 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Canned goods will last 25 years in that environment. If you you doubt me I will send you statements from canned foods producers.

canned white potatoes
canned vegetables
canned chicken
canned beef (http://keystonemeats.com) good products
canned corned beef
canned mushrooms
canned soups (ready to eat, not reconstitute)
canned beans (black, refried, etc.)

[airtight containers: ball canning jars are very good]

white rice stored in airtight containers (indefinitely)
oatmeal in airtight containers (very long time)
Dried beans in airtight containers (very long)
Pasta in airtight containers (very long)
Rice noodles in airtight containers (very long)
Pilot crackers (canned - 30 year shelf life)
Peanut butter (several years, easy to rotate)
Juices bottled in *glass* (several years at least)

You would be surprised how cheap 6 months of food will be using these types. Maybe a little boring after a few weeks, but in the crunch you won’t complain.


19 posted on 09/07/2012 3:05:11 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Kartographer

First aid supplies, antibiotics, cigarettes, booze, feminine hygiene products all make for good storage and make great trade bait. Most people forget they need these basics. When the zombies come you will need surplus to barter with.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 3:08:33 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Death to the GOPe traitors and tyrants.)
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To: Marcella
The ones who are the most aggravating are those who say they'd just as soon just die right there rather than put back a few cans of beans. Ohhh, what would I have to live for? Ohhh, I would never touch a gun!
21 posted on 09/07/2012 3:16:50 PM PDT by bgill
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To: BenLurkin
“’If preparedness were really important it would be taught in school.’
Why isn't it?”
Maybe because it isn't multicultural, homosexual nor anti-theistic enough. Neither is it pro-union, environmentalist pablum or dismissive of the Constitution and our founding principles. It has nothing to do with feminism or diversity or “fairness”. Besides, we don't want to scare the youts and diminish their self actualization.
22 posted on 09/07/2012 3:17:04 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Doomsday preppers was on rerun last weekend, and I caught that episode with Kalene, that women in Utah that covers her egss in mineral oil so that that last 9 months, and dipps her cheese in wax, to preseve them. I tooled around her site Preparedness Pro, and she recommends that you don't take out the oxygen in your wheat, ( and I forgot if she mentioned rice, oatmeal, etc.) because they need to be alive when you sprout them. In James Rawles book Patriots, that's how they start their day at their bugout—with a nice bowl of sprouted wheat. Have yet to put the hand warmers in my food buckets, or make the breakfast of preppers, sprouted wheat.
23 posted on 09/07/2012 3:17:55 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"What exactly is the opposite of a survivalist?"

A Zombie! ;-)
24 posted on 09/07/2012 3:18:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: lulu16
When the grid goes down, I'm going to regret all the times I didn't take advantage of spell-check.
25 posted on 09/07/2012 3:19:48 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

Tell us more!

What kind of wax does she use to coat what kind of cheese and where does she store it afterwards?

Thanks!


26 posted on 09/07/2012 3:30:20 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: bgill
“The ones who are the most aggravating are those who say they'd just as soon just die right there rather than put back a few cans of beans. Ohhh, what would I have to live for? Ohhh, I would never touch a gun!”

That's close to a fatalist who believes everything that happens is preordained to happen and one can't change it.

There are going to be a lot of dead people in both categories (and I don't care ‘cause I can't change them beforehand and don't have enough to feed them afterward).

I will feed my extra liberal sister-in-law and her husband because they helped me so much when my husband was very ill. I love them but they are to the left of Stalin and admit it. They know I am a prepper and think I'm nuts. They live on the coast and have NO preps of any kind.

27 posted on 09/07/2012 3:30:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella
they are to the left of Stalin and admit it. They know I am a prepper and think I'm nuts

It's a given they'll be the first ones knocking on your door.

28 posted on 09/07/2012 3:33:23 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer

“A Zombie! ;-)”

That’s a better answer than my brainy one of “fatalist”.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 3:35:30 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Mortrey

I was watching the show and reading my iphone at the same time, but I think I remember she used a special cheese wax and dipped it or brushed it with a natural boar’s bristle brush. She gave a recommendation of the product on her site, and it was from a specialty cheese store. Then she recommended hanging it in a cool space, like a basement, where she has them in nets hanging from the rafters. I think they need air circulation. They do get more ripe, but they don’t spoil. I remember eating a guoda-type cheese in the Philippines, and we didn’t refrigerate the new product. Hard cheeses are the ones she puts-up-—literally. Isn’t that exciting? Helps round out your need for protein in your preps. I found her site kind of hard to navigate. There is a search box, but no where to find what was already posted.


30 posted on 09/07/2012 3:40:56 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: bgill

The last time they were here a number of months ago, they told me they aren’t worried about the future until global warming stops food growing in their area of south Texas, then they will go to California where his brother is because that place will be fine. I said nothing, just nodded my head like they were right.

They are coming to visit either this coming Sunday or next Tuesday and be here several days. They sleep in a bed under which is mountains of Rainey Day food. They don’t know how lucky they are that I would save their liberal lives.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 3:42:16 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: bgill

The last time they were here a number of months ago, they told me they aren’t worried about the future until global warming stops food growing in their area of south Texas, then they will go to California where his brother is because that place will be fine. I said nothing, just nodded my head like they were right.

They are coming to visit either this coming Sunday or next Tuesday and be here several days. They sleep in a bed under which is mountains of Rainey Day food. They don’t know how lucky they are that I would save their liberal lives.


32 posted on 09/07/2012 3:43:10 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Wrong kind of battery powered radio - I prefer mine to tune from 144Mhz to 148Mhz ;-) It also helps if you have a decent antenna - a car mount works.


33 posted on 09/07/2012 3:45:10 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Tuck your head between your legs, ..............


34 posted on 09/07/2012 3:47:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Marcella

Bless their hearts.


35 posted on 09/07/2012 3:53:58 PM PDT by bgill
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To: WakeUpAndVote
9 was taught in school in the 50's. Ask anyone under 30 what this is all about.

Yep. That and "Duck and Cover".

36 posted on 09/07/2012 4:01:05 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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To: Kartographer

Ammo will be the new money.


37 posted on 09/07/2012 4:07:21 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: JRandomFreeper

A democrat.


38 posted on 09/07/2012 4:16:33 PM PDT by Skywarner
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To: Pollster1
including Akiko Takakura at 300 m

Wowza. I'm thinking new pants might be in order after that ka-boom.

I didn't know anyone survived that close. Thanks for the data.

/johnny

39 posted on 09/07/2012 4:40:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: WilliamRobert

Booze - I’m getting a small still. About 10L worth should provide a couple of liters of white lightening. Sugar and yeast and some water on the fire. Been reading up on it and it’s not all that complicated really. JRTFM!!


40 posted on 09/07/2012 4:42:45 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: Marcella
They live on the coast and have NO preps of any kind.

They will have to get to where you are... in a real emergency, that might not be so easy to do without a plan, firearms, and tools.

You might not have to feed them after all.

If you do, make them work for it. I don't know if you remember the old bumper sticker from hitchhiker days "Gas, grass, or @$$, no-one rides for free"

/johnny

41 posted on 09/07/2012 4:44:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fremont_steve
I prefer a radio (several radios) that tune from DC to daylight, and can transmit. Did you know the old Drake T-4 can be modified to transmit on the AM broadcast band? 73s ;)

/johnny

42 posted on 09/07/2012 4:46:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bgill
Bless their hearts.

In my world... that phrase, said by an older southern lady is an ominous thing. ;)

/johnny

43 posted on 09/07/2012 4:48:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Keystone Meats

Hey. I just checked them out. Not just for the canned meat. This steak package comes in at about $4.30 a pound.

Steak Box I - 14 lbs.
2 Ribeye Steaks
2 New York Strip Steaks
2 Sirloin Steaks
2 Rib Steaks
3 lbs Cube Meat
2 T-Bone Steaks
2 Porterhouse Steaks
Price: $59.95

44 posted on 09/07/2012 5:04:17 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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To: Kartographer

Oh jeez. Each of these bullet points needs a page or two of footnotes, additions and exceptions. Let me add a few:

13) Don’t be stupid.
14) Be stubborn only when it matters. Change your mind when proven wrong.
15) In an emergency situation or a defensive position, if you are not improving your situation you are wrong.
16) Keep your perspective and do not waste your strength. “Fatigue makes cowards of us all.” - G.S. Patton
17) Contamination conquers determination, so keep it clean.
18) Murphy’s Law: “If anything can go wrong, it will, and at the worst possible time.”
19) Cheops’ rule: “Nothing is done on time or under budget.”
20) The fourth law of thermodynamics: “There is never enough of the right kind of fuel and energy.”


45 posted on 09/07/2012 5:05:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Murphy was a fricking optomist.

Amen on keeping it clean. More people died in WWI from disease than from the fight.

/johnny

46 posted on 09/07/2012 5:13:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Godzilla

I want a crank radio with NOAA on it....anybody know where to get them?....I have a plain crank/solar radio already....


47 posted on 09/07/2012 5:15:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Pollster1
whatever could happen.....and lets suppose that its NOT our govt coming after citizens in a wave of dictatoship.....then the govt will eventually get things organized....but the fear then, is that our money in banks will probably be confiscated or you may not be able to take very much out at a time....

the solution may be worse than the initial problem...

48 posted on 09/07/2012 5:20:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
but the fear then, is that our money in banks will probably be confiscated or you may not be able to take very much out at a time

My suspicion is that our money will fade due to high inflation. Why make people personally angry by taking their money, when you can inflate all money in circulation and achieve the same goal impersonally.

49 posted on 09/07/2012 5:25:30 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I prefer a radio (several radios) that tune from DC to daylight, and can transmit.”

Ahh, got radios. Must have three emergency ones, and the latest one, several months old, is a Sony for hearing ham operators.

That’s another reason I have to save my liberal kin. The husband is a ham operator, a licensed electrical engineer, and when he comes in my house, he wants a list of items that need to be fixed. He works every second he is here or he isn’t happy. Wears his gun in his fanny pack. In his van, Carries everything he needs to fix anything on earth.

AND, HE LISTENS TO EL JAZEERA NEWS - SAYS THAT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TELLS THE TRUTH - but, I can’t refuse to feed him because he’s a communist, ‘cause he could save my life - he would kill anything that came near me without batting an eyelash.


50 posted on 09/07/2012 5:28:49 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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