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Texas toll road getting 85 mph speed limit
upi ^ | Sept. 7, 2012

Posted on 09/07/2012 4:30:37 PM PDT by JoeProBono

MUSTANG RIDGE, Texas, - Before long, a stretch of Texas toll road will have the nation's highest speed limit -- 85 mph.

Motorists desiring to zip along at that speed legally will only be able to do it about 29 minutes at a time, however. That's how long it will take to traverse the 41-mile section of Texas 130 between Mustang Ridge near Austin to Seguin going 85 mph.

The speed limit approved by the Texas Transportation Commission goes into effect when the toll road is completed, which is expected to be Nov. 11, the Houston Chronicle reported Thursday.

The 85 mph limit will put Texas ahead of Utah, where motorists are allowed to speed along at a maximum of 80 mph, the newspaper said.

Safety is a concern for some.

"Research clearly demonstrates the direct connection between higher speed limits and more fatalities," Russ Rader of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety in Arlington, Va., told the Chronicle. "When speed limits go up, deaths on those roads go up. When speed limits go down, deaths on those roads go down."

Chris Lippincott, a spokesman for the consortium that is building the road, said state transportation officials have determined the highway can be traveled safely at 85 mph.

"We are committed to operating a safe, reliable highway for our customers," Lippincott said. "On any road, drivers hold the key to safety based on traffic, travel conditions and the capabilities of their own vehicles."

Claiming the national speed limit record has already ignited criticism.

"As accidents pile up on on 85-mph roads, so too will insurance claims," said David Snyder of the American Insurance Association in a newspaper editorial last year. "That will lead to increased insurance costs."

How much it will cost for the privilege of driving on the road has yet to be determined.


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1 posted on 09/07/2012 4:30:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Safety is the main reason why 85 MPH is appropriate.

Traffic that is slugging along behind a rolling roadblock is never safe.


2 posted on 09/07/2012 4:33:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: JoeProBono

It makes sense. Long roads, and there are many in Texas can take far too much time to feel any progress being made when you are stuck at 65 like many states or 55 even. I pity such states as they are usually Democratically controlled.

Notice how the Democrat controlled states just steal your freedoms in any way they can. Its all about the power.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 4:35:31 PM PDT by DebraAI
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To: JoeProBono

Good start. Standard US speed limits are a joke. In Germany you won’t feel comfortable at far right lane at 85 mph on freeway. (Older sunday drivers will hit your rear).


4 posted on 09/07/2012 4:35:36 PM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: JoeProBono

Gee, that’s swell.
Whats the cost per mile?

Something says I’ll be stuck on I35.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 4:36:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DebraAI
It makes sense. Long roads, and there are many in Texas

No, it doesn't. This road is in the Hill Country near Austin, not out in west Texas where there's nothing around for miles and miles. This will have major traffic. If it's posted 85, they'll be driving 100 mpg. Just imagine the carnage when there's an accident.

6 posted on 09/07/2012 4:40:48 PM PDT by bgill
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To: editor-surveyor

I don’t know if it’s true, but I read somewhere that many highways are designed to have traffic drive at speeds higher the the posted 55 or 65.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 4:41:36 PM PDT by matt04
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To: JoeProBono

Oklahoma’s I-44 has been 85 for years (unofficially.)


8 posted on 09/07/2012 4:41:48 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: JoeProBono

The kicker is that they lowered the speed on U.S. 183[non toll] from 65 to 55. Surprise, the toll road company helped ‘decide’ that was for safety and not to spur people onto the toll road. Lol.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 4:42:54 PM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: cunning_fish

Ugh, I know. Living in Kansas with the excellent road conditions, long flat straightaways, and gentle curves, there are parts where one could comfortably travel over 100mph.


10 posted on 09/07/2012 4:43:23 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Theoria

U.S. 183 parallels part of the toll road.


11 posted on 09/07/2012 4:43:25 PM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: mylife

... and 85 means 100!!! Bting it on.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 4:46:56 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I40 in AZ runs 85+ all day and night dispite the 75 posted limit. No more or fewer accidents than one would expect on a major freeway.

Modern cars cruise at 85 like old ones did at 40...and do it safer thanks to better handling/suspensions.


13 posted on 09/07/2012 4:48:33 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Recon Dad

LOL! Its true!
I can’t do 75 in a 75.


14 posted on 09/07/2012 4:48:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: matt04

We have farm to market roads in Tx that are 70.


15 posted on 09/07/2012 4:50:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JoeProBono

My memory is not to be trusted these days, but a few years ago I came crossed Texas on I-10, and sure seem to remember a long stretch of it being 85 mph. I was towing, and couldn’t go over 60.


16 posted on 09/07/2012 4:54:46 PM PDT by pallis
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To: editor-surveyor
Drove across Montana on I-90 last summer. I'd say 85 was about what cops call "the flow of traffic."

Historical note: When the Pennsylvania Turnpike opened, the first divided highway in America, it had NO speed limit. Signs at the entrance gates merely said, "please drive carefully."

17 posted on 09/07/2012 4:56:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Crazieman

“there are parts where one could comfortably travel over 100mph.”

NSS! I used to do 130 between Chattanooga and Nashville,,,, if the truckers told me there were no speed traps. At about 90, the LS 400 just sucked down onto the road!


18 posted on 09/07/2012 4:57:42 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: mylife

And those FM’s are well maintained and have paved shoulders that the slow movers can pull over on “at speed” to let the fast movers pass on by!


19 posted on 09/07/2012 5:01:20 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: matt04

All major highways in the US are designed for 85 MPH.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 5:04:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Just watch out for tractors or cows entering the road!


21 posted on 09/07/2012 5:07:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JoeProBono

There are some remote freeway stretches here in CA that you’ll get run over at 85mph.


22 posted on 09/07/2012 5:11:11 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

got that right, rofl.


23 posted on 09/07/2012 5:12:32 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: JoeProBono

24 posted on 09/07/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: bgill
No, it doesn't. This road is in the Hill Country near Austin, not out in west Texas where there's nothing around for miles and miles. This will have major traffic. If it's posted 85, they'll be driving 100 mpg. Just imagine the carnage when there's an accident.

Oh good grief. I've driven this stretch several times, apparently you haven't. Currently this stretch is very lightly travelled and the current speed limit is 80mph. Turn in your man card, you have no use for it.

Unless I missed the sarcasm, in which case, carry on.

25 posted on 09/07/2012 5:12:50 PM PDT by cidrasm
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To: JoeProBono
"As accidents pile up on on 85-mph roads, so too will insurance claims," said David Snyder"""""

Then get out of the way, SLOW traffic on the right, please. Better yet take the service road or shoulder.

26 posted on 09/07/2012 5:16:07 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: matt04

Raising the speed limit to 85 on 130 and lowering it on 183? Are you kidding me?

This reeks of nothing but trying to get people to pay the toll. I avoid the toll roads every chance I get. Screw their tolls!


27 posted on 09/07/2012 5:19:14 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: JoeProBono
Back in the day, I-20 headed east from El Paso, was safe at 120mph on a bike, until you hit civilization again. Which would be a while, even at 120mph.

Never got busted, suprisingly enough.

/johnny

28 posted on 09/07/2012 5:21:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Modern cars cruise at 85 like old ones did at 40...and do it safer thanks to better handling/suspensions.

Heck, my father did 140 MPH in a 1968 Buick Wildcat on I-95, I remember him taking even the 1973 Pontiac Catalina up to 110+
29 posted on 09/07/2012 5:23:41 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Modern cars cruise at 85 like old ones did at 40...and do it safer thanks to better handling/suspensions.

Heck, my father did 140 MPH in a 1968 Buick Wildcat on I-95, I remember him taking even the 1973 Pontiac Catalina up to 110+
30 posted on 09/07/2012 5:23:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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I find most accidents on freeways are not caused by speed, but people weaving in and around slow traffic.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 5:24:49 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Nowhere Man

Sorry about the double post


32 posted on 09/07/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Sure, the old battletanks can get there, but effortless cruising it aint. The last time I took a WS-6 equipped 70s Trans Am up to 140 I didn’t want to stay there long. Floaty as hell. And that was a supposed hot rod. (in a late 70’s sense ;)

But an Accura at 130ish feels like it’s barely in stride. Just a feel thing for me I guess.


33 posted on 09/07/2012 5:29:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cunning_fish
In Germany you won’t feel comfortable at far right lane at 85 mph on freeway.

I've had the good fortune to drive the Autobahn, and I'm telling you .. YOU'RE RIGHT.

Last time I was in Germany, I had a Mazda 6 Turbo-Diesel for a rental. I was doing 135kph (85mph) on the Autobahn in the right lane and getting my doors blown off. It wasn't until I was driving at about 170kph (105mph) that I was "keeping pace" with the other cars on the road.

Funny thing, that turbo-diesel didn't seem to be straining at all and still did better than 30mpg. Go figure.

34 posted on 09/07/2012 5:30:16 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: cidrasm; bgill

I’ve driven this road myself. It is not in the Hill Country, it is out in the flatlands to the east. And it is lightly used. Most of the traffic is still on I-35. Hence it could be driven quite safely in most conditions at 85 mph.


35 posted on 09/07/2012 5:30:31 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: smokingfrog

36 posted on 09/07/2012 5:30:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
Not sure this map is current in all states.


37 posted on 09/07/2012 5:31:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: JoeProBono
Because more is always better. :)

/johnny

38 posted on 09/07/2012 5:37:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JoeProBono

Seems to me I have some of this road up here by the people I see driving.


39 posted on 09/07/2012 5:57:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: mylife

We have farm to market roads in Tx that are 70,,”

Or more! Tried to drive back from San Antonio to Houston last week and traffic was bumper to bumper 20 mph all the way. Finally gave up and took one of the FM Freeways.


40 posted on 09/07/2012 5:57:20 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: JoeProBono

It seems to me a better idea would be to use some math, as far as distances and speeds, and set up a vehicle only high speed rail line.

Imagine the two story car carrier trucks used by car dealerships, but as trains with thin, streamlining walls and roof. Cars drive into position and are secured. It takes the train several miles to accelerate to maybe 180mph, and even more miles to brake when approaching the end. So the route would be worth it if it was 200-300 miles. And the further they went without halting, the better the deal.


41 posted on 09/07/2012 5:58:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: matt04

That is correct. And then they eff them up putting in eurotrash roundabouts.


42 posted on 09/07/2012 5:58:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

And look at PA now.


43 posted on 09/07/2012 6:00:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Grams A

We are heated to Aransas Pass in less than a month and I am dreading I35.
We have been known to take the scenic route rather than I35.
It’s about the same amount of time.


44 posted on 09/07/2012 6:04:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I call PA the “land of orange barrels”
The roads are always under construction.


45 posted on 09/07/2012 6:05:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Good excuse for “Fines Doubled” eh?


46 posted on 09/07/2012 6:12:37 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: usconservative

>>>>>Funny thing, that turbo-diesel didn’t seem to be straining at all and still did better than 30mpg. Go figure.>>>>>

Mazda has to offer diesels in Europe to feed demand but Japanese diesels no matter how good it felt for you are stone age comparing to latest European technology.

BMW 730d has a tiny 3 liter 6 cyl turbo diesel making 333 hp. Just imagine it. It is a full size sporty luxury sedan making 170+ mph at 34 mpg city/hwy.

Go figure. They are laughing at Volt and Prius.


47 posted on 09/07/2012 6:17:34 PM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: MetaThought

No, It’s just the annoying result of having to keep state workers employed leaning on shovels.


48 posted on 09/07/2012 6:24:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JoeProBono

http://youtu.be/uj4MEGi-OyQ


49 posted on 09/07/2012 6:28:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mylife

Take US 77 down to Victoria and then go to Tivoli, Rockport, and then PA/AP. Pretty drive and about half of it is four-lane. Much less stressful.


50 posted on 09/07/2012 6:34:34 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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