Skip to comments.O.J. Simpson's lawyer TAMPERED with glove so it wouldn't fit his hand ..., claims prosecutor
Posted on 09/09/2012 5:37:20 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Nearly seventeen years ago, former NFL star and actor O.J. Simpson was shockingly acquitted of murdering his ex-wife and her friend.
But now a district attorney at the centre of the case has alleged that Simpsons lead defence lawyer tampered with a crucial piece of evidence one of the infamous gloves that prosecutors said linked Simpson to the grisly double-murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman.
After The Juice struggled to fit the gloves on his hands in one of the defining moments of the racially charged trial that captivated the nation Cochran famously admonished the jury: 'If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.'
Former Los Angeles deputy district attorney Christopher Darden on Thursday accused Simpson defence lawyer, the late Johnnie Cochran, of 'manipulating' the glove, Reuters reported.
New allegations: Prosecutor Christopher Darden, pictured at the 1995 trial, now alleges that Simpson's lead defence attorney tampered with the leather gloves
On Thursday, during a panel discussion about the trial at Pace Law School in New York City, Darden, a member of the prosecution team, declared: 'I think Johnnie tore the lining.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
I tend to agree with Dershowitz that Cochran would not have had unsupervised access to the glove.
I don’t think the prosecution allowing OJ to try the evidence gloves on while wearing Latex gloves helped. Stupid.
LEATHER gloves shrink when they get wet, and OJ’s were covered with blood.
And, any smart attorney knows to never ask a question if you don’t know the answer. They hadn’t tried the gloves on OJ, so they didn’t know the answer.
1) I think OJ was guilty
2) I think the prosecution was embarrassingly incompetent
you have to hand it to OJ.
I agree with you, but this trial was decided at the jury selection stage.
If that jury hadn’t been full of fools, they would have figured that out too!
Oh that’s rich...
The Prosecution’s case was that the same Detective found one glove at the crime scene, then the same detective lept the wall to the Simpson house and immediately found the other glove in the backyard, before anybody else could come in the front gate... At night... In the dark...
And they accuse the defense of tampering with this glove...
,,, let’s first remember what the crime scene collector ( Mr. Fung ) said . Items that were collected which were blood soaked or contained moist blood were first put in a convection dryer to dry and stabilize the sample collected .
What happens to wet or moist leather when put in a convection dryer ??? It shrinks ,,,,,, I REST MY CASE .
Chris Dardin was an idiot to ask 0J to preform this test because one could visibily see the gloves were too small to fit 0J Simpleton’s hand especially when combined with the rubber glove 0J Simpleton put on first .
I agree with both of you but there are ways to do this without tampering with the gloves. There are drugs that retain water that cause soft tissues to swell and there are topical applications that cause things to stick and appear to not fit.
Yet as Former Proud Canadian says, this was at least half decided in the jury selection. The jury was looking for any excuse to free the 'black hero' and this served its purpose. Of course, Judge Ito-bitsy did not help things at all. What a circus from the car chase to OJ's never-ending search for the real criminals on every golf course in America. I wonder if he will resume the search when he gets out of jail for that Las Vegas robbery?
Take heart! Johnnie Cochran is rotting in hell. Guaranteed.
Pouring a thin stream of glue into the seams of the glove would have caused the fingers to stick together as they clearly did when O J tried it on.
Since I had young children at the time of the trial, I couldn’t help but note that OJ was holding his hand like a 3 year old, trying to get the glove on while holding his fingers mostly apart. That’s what kids do, when they either don’t know how to get their winter things on yet, or just plain don’t want to wear them...
With that, and the natural leather shrinkage from the blood, of course he “couldn’t” get his hand in it. Cochran didn’t even need to tamper with it.
I’m in a line of work where I have to wear waterproof gloves (for chemical and pathogen protection) under some type of work glove (for protection against physical injury, sharps, etc.)
The “rubber” gloves not only take up some physical room, they “stick” to the leather or canvas. The work gloves generally need to be a size larger.
That said, had the prosecution not been idiots they could have obtained an identical pair of new gloves of the same size and had him try them on. Case closed.
Not that it would have made any difference. As others have said, the case was settled in jury selection.
One of the most disappointing events of my life was his acquittal. Right up to the announcement I assumed the black jury would do the right thing, just as I would have in a case where a white man murdered two black people. My heart just sunk. Disappointment greatly incrfeased by the celebratory atmosphere among the melanin-enhanced population.
Recently finished a novel set in the UK legal system. Their jury selection is random via computer. Seating a jury takes minutes versus weeks or months. And neither side can play games with trying to stack the jury.
I sincerely wish we have such a system here.
Actually the prosecution brought in a rep form Arris the company that made the glove. He testified that the glove would have shrunk because of the blood. Also evidence was presented (Bloomingdale receipt) showing that the victim bought her husband those gloves, There were only 1200 made. The gloves in evidence were the same size as on the receipt. Of the 1200 fur=lined gloves very few would have been floating around warm southern California.
The jury chose to ignore facts. Or were too stupid to follow the case.
Yup, that was my take at the time. He was obviously trying to make it look like it wouldn’t fit. If the glove was tight fitting to begin with and had shrunk even a little, this would have been easily. Its also possible that OJ had taken something to swell the size of his hand.
The whole glove incident was stupid, but I don’t think it made a big difference either way. The evidence was clearly against OJ, especially the DNA evidence. Everyone knew he was guilty. The jury just didn’t want to convict a celebrity Black man of kiling two white people. Its that simple.
Not to mention that Simpson also had "acting" as part of his resume. Remember his exasperated looks, his pointless gyrations with his hands as he "struggled" to get the glove on. Of course he wasn't going to make it look easy. He had a sympathetic jury and knew that he could manipulate it.
When OJ arrived in Chicago the morning after the crime, he had cuts on his hand he claimed came from a water glass. I’ll bet if they did a DNA test on the glove they would have found OJ’s DNA besides the victims.
What was sad was that for all those previous years OJ was no part of the black community. White wife, white friends, the whole white life.
The “jury nullification” of the predominately black jury saved his black ass.
The verdict was disgusting and I became physically ill watching his face as he knew he got off and was evading justice.
Didn’t matter if the glove fit or not. That jury was not going to send their beloved OJ to prison.
OJ got off because he was rich, black and famous.
Take away any one of the three and he would have been convicted.
More likely Simpson did exercises to build up his hand muscles or gorged on salt to make his fingers swell. He certainly had enough time to exercise and make them bigger.
So Darden, is busy boffin’ Marcia Clarke....loses an important case and then blames someone who is dead and can’t defend himself....classy.
now dont get me wrong....OJ is guilty and the trial was badly mishandled from day one...
but dont make up BS. a glove covered in blood shrinks and hardens making it difficult to put on...and they should never have permitted the trying on the glove in court for that reason alone....
Jackie Chiles could have done a better job with a bra, than Darden and Clarke
Otherwise he would have had to come up with a different “poem”.
“If da glove done fit
he guilty as sh*t”
bad LTOS! Bad BAD! :-)
how judgmental of you
Matthew 7:1 “judge not lest you be judged”.
It was summer in LA,the detective was wearing light tan slacks and a light blue shirt. I suppose he transported a “bloody’ glove from one place to another, OJ’s Home, within an hour without having a mess of blood ‘on his hands”.. Did he wipe his hands on his pants or shirt? Did he previously know who’s glove it was? Did he consider that the blood may have been from an HIV person? OJ’s blood was in her house and her blood was in his house. I suppose the detective also transported some of each of theirs blood in a vile, all this while the crime scene was full of cops, uniform and detective, large lights lighting the scene and swarms of reporters around the area. Right, OJ was framed
I have tried to put a normal glove on over a rubber glove in situations where I needed both chemical protection and physical protection.
Guess what? The rubber glove makes it very difficult to put on the normal glove. Try for several minutes hard.
The real idiocy is that the prosecutor never tried this at home before suggesting the test.
That is the crux of the no fit scam. I was wondering why they thought a glove over a glove was any proof of fit. The whole scenario smacked of inexcusable stupidity or complicity.
Hmmm... F. Lee Bailey is still alive I think. According to the article they think he’s deceased.
You have to be the dumbest prosecutor ever and dumber than a barely passing the bar public defender.
You allowed crap into the trial that should have never been in the trial or severley limited.
And now you have this, and I don’t “specious” claim is the right word, but you do have something that greater than that as your excuse for losing.
There are strict rules when handling evidence and no way, I say “No Effing Way” the defense handled the glove in a way that was inconsistent with handling of evidence and that it was very much observed by the chain of command to ensure there would be no tampering the evidence.
I am nearly tempted to post the “You have got to be the stoopitest person ever” post but, I reserve that for lame opus’ and irrefutable idiots who make me wonder how they got this far in life without drowning in the shower...as do you.
You are a hack bottom line and beyond incompetent.
Thankfully OJ is in a jail for his arrogance. Yeah, I get it was his stuff but whatever it took to have serve some jail time then fine.
Now, go skulk off to wherever losers try to get their lattes the right color and never let us hear from you again.
Even if the gloves had fit perfectly, it would be easy to hold your fingers in a way that would make it look like it didn’t fit. But handing a dried up leather glove to OJ was gross incompetence. My work gloves fit me fine after a few minutes, but the drying after getting sweaty means they are hard to put on. You can be darn sure that if I was on trial for murder, and I put latex gloves on first, I would make it look like it was impossible for me to wear them.
The OJ prosecutors were painfully stupid, and Dardin may have been the worst. And yes, I read his book...
I agree with #2, but would change #1 to read OJ’s son, not the juice. Do you know if OJ’s son’s chef knives which were carried ina sheath were ever tested? ... Thast’s right, they never were.
Maybe so but she was a chump to attempt a demonstration at trial.
Even the rookie litigators know bettter than that.
No, seriously, instead of replying with a "bump", I replied with "Bacon". Afterall, would you rather have a bump or have Bacon? ...no-brainer. I'll skip the burnt toast though.
Did I say that OJ was innocent?
All I was saying is that the way the second glove was found was too cute. IMHO, the police tried to improve an already strong case by relocating evidence, and in so doing introduced reasonable doubt and lost what should have been a slam-dunk.
I don’t know if he’s guilty or not. I’ve been to the condo, it’s a very small space, and it’s very hard to imagine that lummox being able to pull that off. But who knows.
On point two, I completely agree.
My understanding is there's a cooperation in a search for truth. While here it's become primarily about excluding as much evidence as possible and winning.
I found that the small percentage of Americans who thought OJ was innocent (or that detectives "tampered" with the evidence) seemed to be most blacks, both male and female, or macho, macho white men (who may have been able to convince their wives/family members of the same).
The glove could have, well, fit like a glove, and he still would have gotten off.
Bacon! Bacon! Bacon!
Crisped, even a little.burned.... a few of em.
Headed to.the.Giant.Artichoke.for. arichokes...ho boy! Can’t wait!
No way police are picking up a blood soaked glove (carried how?) and “planting” it at another location, ESPECIALLY at the home of one as famous as Simpson. What would give them the idea that he was the killer?
Thanks Uncle Chip.
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