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Men Now Value Women's Intellect Over Appearance, Women Now Value Men's Appearance Over Wealth
The Daily Mail ^ | 9-9-12 | Tamara Cohen

Posted on 09/09/2012 12:42:16 PM PDT by trailhkr1

Next time a man throws you an admiring glance, he’s probably just heard the intelligent things you’ve been saying. Many women will find it hard to believe, but new research suggests men increasingly value intellect and character in a partner over a shapely figure. However, women now tend to be more interested in a man’s looks than before, and less preoccupied by their wealth as they are able to depend on themselves financially.

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Ugly men are screwed...no wonder more men are going in for plastic surgery and face lifts etc
1 posted on 09/09/2012 12:42:18 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

I call bs on this.


2 posted on 09/09/2012 12:45:15 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: trailhkr1

Hell, I’ve got it made now!


3 posted on 09/09/2012 12:45:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: trailhkr1

Sorry Tamara, it isn’t so. The brainy fat chick ain’t going out.....


4 posted on 09/09/2012 12:45:40 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: trailhkr1

America is screwed. That ‘sexual fantasy with a black man’ thing could get 0bama re-elected. Add to that Sandra Fluke, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi and female actresses employing scare tactics and evoking tears, tears and more tears aimed at garnering female votes and America is screwed.


5 posted on 09/09/2012 12:45:43 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: trailhkr1

Probably explains why marriage rates are down.


6 posted on 09/09/2012 12:46:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Diversity and political correctness. The real reason 09-11-01 happened.)
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To: trailhkr1
Any claims that "men" believe A, while "women" believe B should be regarded in the same way "blacks believe C" or "crippled people believe D".

Individuals are different.

7 posted on 09/09/2012 12:48:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: trailhkr1

8 posted on 09/09/2012 12:48:19 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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You can show 2 groups of women the same picture of normal good looking guy. If Group A women are told he is 6’4” they rate him a 10. If Group B is told he is 5’8” they rate him a 5. Same guy, same picture.


9 posted on 09/09/2012 12:51:31 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: trailhkr1

Sorry, but this is nonsense. What’s the use of having the intellect of Albert Einstein if they look like Helen Thomas or Sandra Fluke?


10 posted on 09/09/2012 12:51:51 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: trailhkr1

Written by a woman. Not buying it.


11 posted on 09/09/2012 12:54:49 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: trailhkr1

Every trash can has its lid. There is some one for everyone, practically.


12 posted on 09/09/2012 12:55:23 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: trailhkr1

That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.


13 posted on 09/09/2012 12:57:28 PM PDT by bgill
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To: central_va

She doesn’t have much of a brain, either.


14 posted on 09/09/2012 12:59:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: trailhkr1

Rich ugly guy....

15 posted on 09/09/2012 1:01:35 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Clock King; max americana; central_va; Perdogg; skeeter
Written by a woman. Not buying it.

I am.. I see it at Happy Hours, the gym etc.. women of my generation(20 somethings) are asking the men(attractive) out today. I see it all the time.

No, guys are not going to ask out a ugly woman but I believe what the article is implying is men may consider going out with that smart, confident 6/10 woman now instead of going after the 8+/10 woman before..

16 posted on 09/09/2012 1:02:06 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: max americana
Sorry, but this is nonsense. What’s the use of having the intellect of Albert Einstein if they look like Helen Thomas or Sandra Fluke?

17 posted on 09/09/2012 1:02:30 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: trailhkr1

People say lots of things, often they say what they believe they’re supposed to say.

Then there’s reality.


18 posted on 09/09/2012 1:03:21 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: central_va

And she is a nuclear physicist from MIT.


19 posted on 09/09/2012 1:05:10 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: eclecticEel

Reality is they often get what they are supposed to.


20 posted on 09/09/2012 1:07:08 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: trailhkr1

Ah, men still don’t need looks. I could have told them that wealth matters less. I see more and more couples where the man earns a fraction of what his wife makes. 20 years ago, I was the exception. Today, easily half. Especially in my circle, the doctor/doctor coupling isn’t nearly as common as it once was.


21 posted on 09/09/2012 1:11:30 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: trailhkr1
There are alot of “sissy guys” in the UK but most normal males are attracted to pretty women...
22 posted on 09/09/2012 1:11:38 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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It’s in your genetic make-up to like ‘em healthy/pretty. :)


23 posted on 09/09/2012 1:12:21 PM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: ari-freedom

24 posted on 09/09/2012 1:12:42 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

We used to have a FReeper, years and years ago who maintained that he was lonely and looking because he was only 5’6”. I found the notion entertaining if not hilarious.


25 posted on 09/09/2012 1:13:33 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: central_va

Hmmm, just showed that picture to my (adult) daughter. The first thing she noticed that was that her pants went all the way up to her belly button. I’ve seen that picture posted for years, and I’ve never noticed.


26 posted on 09/09/2012 1:16:57 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
Ah, men still don’t need looks. I could have told them that wealth matters less. I see more and more couples where the man earns a fraction of what his wife makes. 20 years ago, I was the exception. Today, easily half. Especially in my circle, the doctor/doctor coupling isn’t nearly as common as it once was.

My GF makes twice what I do..and I will never make what she makes. No care from either of us..and probably 1/2 the guys I know it is the same situation..maybe more.

But I disagree on the looks..women ARE being more picky today..women are placing much more emphasis on looks and good grooming.

27 posted on 09/09/2012 1:17:03 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Melas

Being 5’8” myself there is a height requirement with some women. I have been flat out told I was below the minimum by a few women. I thought it was there loss but it is still frustrating. Hey we all have standards. The ones with the height requirement are usually younger, after awhile the height requirement goes down.


28 posted on 09/09/2012 1:17:36 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: montanajoe

Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. My best friend growing up married a woman with CP. She’s beautiful to him, and that’s all that counts.


29 posted on 09/09/2012 1:18:07 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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There are alot of “sissy guys” in the UK but most normal males are attracted to pretty women...

W/O a doubt but I think the article was implying men will now lower their marriage standards just slightly. The fugly chicks are still screwed also

30 posted on 09/09/2012 1:19:41 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: central_va

I just never had that problem. A few women growing up wouldn’t date me because they were taller than I was, but they were by far the minority. My own wife’s first words to me were, “You’re too short.” We’re now working on 22 years of marriage. She’s 6’, I’m 5’2”. The funny thing is, she’s not even the tallest woman I dated.


31 posted on 09/09/2012 1:20:17 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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“Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder”

That's true but most beholders like em pretty..

32 posted on 09/09/2012 1:22:28 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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We used to have a FReeper, years and years ago who maintained that he was lonely and looking because he was only 5’6”. I found the notion entertaining if not hilarious.

Yes, it is bogus...look at Tom Cruise..5-5 as well as most Hollywood actors. Robert Downy Jr.is about the same height.

I'm 6-1 btw so I am not saying this..

33 posted on 09/09/2012 1:23:48 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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But I disagree on the looks..women ARE being more picky today..women are placing much more emphasis on looks and good grooming.

I'll take your word on that, as I'm no longer young or dating. I could never be a pretty boy. I AM a secondary sexual characteristic. If I try to go clean shaven, I just look like Fred Flintstone. Even freshly shaven, my beard is so thick with coal black whiskers that I get that neato grey jaw and cheeks. I hated the androgynous 80's.

At my age now, my wife is happy if I keep the hair growing out of my ears in check.

34 posted on 09/09/2012 1:24:26 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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I sat next to a really cute(hot) girl on a plane once, we talk for a long time. Really had a lot in common. She even gave me her number. When we stood up to get out she was about 4 inches shorter than me. I called her the next day to see we could get together, she said she wasn’t interested I was a little shorter than her “requirement”. I am 5’8” and don’t consider myself THAT short. She was really hot so I guess she makes the rules. Her loss.


35 posted on 09/09/2012 1:25:53 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The single best ladies man that I knew growing up was just barely taller than I am. At 5’4”, he was a lady killer par excel-lance . He got more women than my best bud who’s 6’3” and myself put together.


36 posted on 09/09/2012 1:26:39 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Perdogg

A statement that he values “character” could be translated into “morality”. He wants a woman who hasn’t slept with 10 other men, won’t cheat on him, is unlikely to have diseases but won’t tell him until he’s infected, doesn’t have illegitimate kids he is asked to give things to or trick him into fathering a child for which he will pay out the nose.
Valuing her “intellect” could easily mean he wants a woman who is smart enough for a good paying job.


37 posted on 09/09/2012 1:27:19 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Perdogg

That’s because it is BS.


38 posted on 09/09/2012 1:27:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: trailhkr1
I like what we are going to need with anarchy arrives: STRONG MEN!

By the way. Look how conservative JFK was:

“Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men.”
- John F. Kennedy

39 posted on 09/09/2012 1:27:53 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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If I try to go clean shaven, I just look like Fred Flintstone. Even freshly shaven, my beard is so thick with coal black whiskers that I get that neato grey jaw and cheeks. I hated the androgynous 80's.

One of the hottest things women find today is 2-3 day beard stubble. My gf request I do not shave Saturday or Sunday...ok with me.

Not me but they love this look..


40 posted on 09/09/2012 1:31:29 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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I guess I'm just one of those unsophisticated types. Geez I even tell my friends they can only forward me pictures of lovely women in various states of undress..even in an election season...
41 posted on 09/09/2012 1:31:35 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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The single best ladies man that I knew growing up was just barely taller than I am. At 5’4”, he was a lady killer par excel-lance . He got more women than my best bud who’s 6’3” and myself put together.

Women still value facial asthetics #1 over anything else.

10/10 face,unfit body>>>>>>average face/fit body>>>>>>>>>ugly face/body of a a god.

42 posted on 09/09/2012 1:35:32 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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I guess I’m going to have to learn to trust you. Both daughter and spouse agreed that the guy in your pic pegged the hotness meter.


43 posted on 09/09/2012 1:43:34 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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There are always a few of those. I don’t think I have ever been rejected by a woman shorter than I am though. Of course, there aren’t that many women shorter than I am either. I realized early that I like leggy blondes, so I pursued leggy blondes.


44 posted on 09/09/2012 1:47:51 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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Still no hope for Helen Thomas then.
45 posted on 09/09/2012 1:49:00 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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i also call BS.

Men admire the intelect of a woman smart enough to know she better not look old. smart enough to get plastic surgery.


46 posted on 09/09/2012 1:50:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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rich guy is dating 3 women...blond,redhead,brunette.
He can't decide which one he should marry, so he puts them to an investment test.

The blond turned 10k into 20k. The redhead turns 10k into 21k.
The brunette turns 10k into 22k.

So which did the guy marry ?

the one with the biggest boobs.

47 posted on 09/09/2012 1:51:12 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Ransom "Rance" Stoddard)
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I’m calling BS on that. If you truly love your wife, you won’t even notice as she gets old.


48 posted on 09/09/2012 1:51:31 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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I guess I'm just one of those unsophisticated types. Geez I even tell my friends they can only forward me pictures of lovely women in various states of undress..even in an election season...

Don't get me wrong I love looking at 8.5+/10 but if I had the choice to marry a dumb as phuck, bat shiite 9/10 airhead versus a 5/6/10 smart, confident, strong, athletic/fit, best friend who shared interest was the same as mine(ok I just described my gf) well you know who I would marry.

49 posted on 09/09/2012 1:55:25 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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I agree. I am attracted to the 8.5-10’s. I think most folks marry based on many more things than physical attraction..
50 posted on 09/09/2012 2:01:40 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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