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Scientists fear Curiosity rover drill bits could contaminate Mars
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 9-10-2012 | Louis Sahagun

Posted on 09/10/2012 8:07:04 AM PDT by servo1969

For all the hopes NASA has pinned on the rover it deposited on Mars last month, one wish has gone unspoken: Please don’t find water.

Scientists don’t believe they will. They chose the cold, dry equatorial landing site in Mars’ Gale Crater for its geology, not its prospects for harboring water or ice, which exist elsewhere on the planet.

But if by chance the rover Curiosity does find water, a controversy that has simmered at NASA for nearly a year will burst into the open. Curiosity’s drill bits may be contaminated with Earth microbes. If they are, and if those bits touch water, the organisms could survive.

The possible contamination of the drill bits occurred six months before the rover’s launch last Nov. 26. The bits had been sterilized inside a box to be opened only after Curiosity landed on Mars.

But that changed after engineers grew concerned that a rough landing could damage the rover and the drill mechanism. They decided to open the box and mount one bit in the drill as a hedge to ensure success of one of the most promising scientific tools aboard Curiosity. The drill is to bore into rocks looking for clues that life could have existed on the planet. Even if a damaged mechanism couldn’t load a drill bit, at least the rover would have one ready to go.

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Conley’s predecessor at NASA, John D. Rummel, a professor of biology at East Carolina University, said, partly in jest: “It will be a sad day for NASA if they do detect ice or water. That’s because the Curiosity project will most likely be told, ‘Gee, that’s nice. Now turn around.’ “

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Miscellaneous; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: contaminate; curiosity; mars; water
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To: circlecity

Your own words used against you:

“I’m in the territory where when someone responds with an insult I assume they couldn’t articulate a coherent response to point made.”

You’re in above your head. Thanks for playing.


41 posted on 09/10/2012 9:37:14 AM PDT by floralamiss
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To: Da Coyote

Here we go.

“We found life on Mars but we might have been the ones that sent it there...”

I am 100% convinced they absolutely already know there is life there, and NOT life we sent, but are afraid of announcing it, and will make up whatever it takes to avoid it!

I actually have a Mars meteorite, it’s a piece of a rock discovered, I believe, in Antarctica.

It’s very, very possible, even extremely likely, that some of the meteor/asteroid impacts on Earth in the past have sent material far enough up and away to eventually get to Mars.


42 posted on 09/10/2012 9:37:50 AM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: floralamiss
"You’re in above your head."

Says the poster who didn't know the word "articulate" could apply to a written response. Duhhhhh.

43 posted on 09/10/2012 9:47:57 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

It doesn’t. Properly used, it refers to speech. C/c your definition/source. This is fun. Oh, and one more thing... your assumption is wrong. The trite and unoriginal idea that “when someone responds with an insult ... they couldn’t articulate a coherent response to point made,” has no basis in fact. Rethink it. I’m trying to be kind.


44 posted on 09/10/2012 10:26:05 AM PDT by floralamiss
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To: djf
It’s very, very possible, even extremely likely, that some of the meteor/asteroid impacts on Earth in the past have sent material far enough up and away to eventually get to Mars.

Mars is much lighter than Earth, and it has very little atmosphere. A rock can be struck from the surface of Mars by another meteorite, it can attain escape velocity (5.0 km/s) without burning up in the atmosphere, and it can reach the next planet.

The same process on Earth would require a massive meteor strike. They are very rare. But let's assume one happened and some rocks were ejected from the Earth's surface. To escape the Earth's gravity they need to be accelerated up to 11.2 km/s (more than double that of Mars.) Rocks don't have a rocket engine in them, so they have to start at even higher speed at the surface to compensate for losses in atmosphere. Atmospheric losses at those speeds will be exactly what a Shuttle experienced during landing - it will be a wall of super hot plasma. It will have a good chance of killing all life forms on the surface. If the rock is small then it will be hot inside too; if the rock is large then it may remain cold - but it really takes a lot of energy to throw it up into the sky.

Another problem is that the levels of energy needed to launch a rock to Mars are likely to vaporize the rock on the spot. Nuclear bombs kicked up mushroom clouds, but those clouds were nothing but fine dust because few, if any, rocks are strong enough to survive the initial shockwave. You need a lot of initial energy to lift the rock all the way to orbit so that it leaves the atmosphere with escape velocity for that altitude. Even if you can come up with such energy, it will crumple the rock into dust. That's why we use powered spaceflight; rockets deliver acceleration not for milliseconds but for five to ten minutes, subjecting occupants and equipment to manageable G levels.

Here is yet another reason. You want a meteor to come down to the surface at a good speed - one that is enough to strike stones back into space. The Martian atmosphere is thin, so this is possible - incoming meteors are not losing much energy, and they are not burning up in the process. On Earth most meteors don't even make it to the surface - and those that do simply arrive at their terminal velocities which are pretty low. They don't carry enough leftover energy to shoot debris back into space.

Earth had experienced some serious asteroid impacts in the past; it is remotely possible that a few rocks escaped Earth. But Earth and Mars are far apart, and space is big. You want a steady source of meteorites from the source planet if you want at least a few to reach the other planet.

45 posted on 09/10/2012 10:44:04 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: blueunicorn6

I like your warped sense of humor :-)


46 posted on 09/10/2012 10:59:10 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Greysard

Here is a website that makes good, solid arguments that the Carolina Bays were formed by ejecta from a meteor/asteroid impact in Michigan.

Note that it would mean some of the material was launched over a thousand miles.

http://cintos.org/SaginawManifold/introduction/index.html

And there have been events that were bigger - much, much bigger. The Sudbury event (1.2 billion yrs), scientists estimate the size of the object to come in was over 5 miles in diameter, as big as Mt. Everest!


47 posted on 09/10/2012 11:05:55 AM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: servo1969
I don't think I'll worry too much about bugs on Mars. In fact, send some really tough lichens from the arctic areas and start seeding the place. Dig into the ice and bury something that can break down the Mars soil.

Have at it, turn the red planet a little green.

48 posted on 09/10/2012 12:01:19 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GeronL

Apollo 12 brought back microbes from a moon probe that had not only survived in space, but also on the lunar service.


49 posted on 09/10/2012 12:04:13 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Surface.

Stupid spell-correct. :)


50 posted on 09/10/2012 12:04:52 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Thank-you......I think.....


51 posted on 09/10/2012 12:50:05 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Don’t worry, it’s a good thing :-)


52 posted on 09/10/2012 1:10:52 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Terra-forming Mars will be a complete waste of resources. Even if we could create an Earth like atmosphere there, it won’t matter. Humans will have beautiful oxygen to breath before we die horribly from radiation sickness.


53 posted on 09/10/2012 4:44:25 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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