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Intel will highlight next-gen Haswell processors at next week's IDF
phys.org ^ | Friday, September 07, 2012 | Nancy Owano

Posted on 09/10/2012 9:34:06 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

(Phys.org)—Can Intel possibly reduce the energy consumption of its processors by 41 percent? Intel is working on it and the result will be Haswell, its next generation of processors, and the key topic of discussions at next week's Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco. Intel's strategic roadmap is a power-reduction roadmap, where Intel hopes to make a difference in the brand behind computers that are thinner, lighter and stay on longer without needing a recharge. The next-generation processor chips will be officially unveiled at the IDF and professionals will judge for themselves whether this means a new day in Intel's ability to compete against competitors in mobile devices and tablets.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: haswell; hitech

1 posted on 09/10/2012 9:34:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I like Intel in the low 20s. I bought a lot when it was under 20, but the price right now is very favorable for the long-term investor.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Political comment apologies, but it’s interesting to note that virtually no one in the West Wing of Cretin/Felons, nor the Obamadork, could qualify to even be a janitor for Intel.

And - ponder the question of which disaster would hurt our country more...the loss of the underachieving dork/felons currently infecting Washington, or the loss of the intellects at Intel?


3 posted on 09/10/2012 9:48:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ShadowAce
Been reading some interesting stuff at hothardware...ie:

Intel Sets The Bar At 10 Watts, Haswell Details Leak Ahead of IDF

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Monday, September 10, 2012 - by Rob Williams

Ahead of this week's IDF, Intel's annual Developer's Forum, the company let an interesting number slip through the cracks: 10W. With all of the leaks we've seen so far, along with information Intel itself has revealed, it's clear that the company has been focusing like never before on power efficiency with its Haswell microarchitecture. "10W" highlights that well. As Intel's TDP ratings include the GPU, that number becomes all the more impressive.

Whereas Ivy Bridge was an evolutionary update to Sandy Bridge, Haswell has been built from the ground-up, as part of Intel's "Tock" phase. The ultimate goal? To take full advantage of both the 22nm process and 3D "tri-gate" transistors.

Haswell will launch in both a two-chip and one-chip design, with the 10W part - likely a dual-core - to fall into the latter category. Like Intel's Atom chips, this one-chip design will result in an SoC (system on a chip), where all the other interfaces regularly found in the motherboard's chipset will instead be integrated into the CPU itself. This cuts down significantly on space and paves the way for Intel's plan of breaking into the tablet market.

4 posted on 09/10/2012 9:49:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

5 posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Da Coyote
HA!>>>>>Do you think they might know the difference between an Interposser....and an Imposter....?

I've been reading Semi Accurate....

Haswell GT3 uses shaders to save power

6 posted on 09/10/2012 9:59:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Da Coyote; GeronL; ShadowAce; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; blam; SierraWasp
This is the article:

Intel to do away with DRAM in PCs

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Semiaccurate has learned that Intel intends to do away with DIMMs, DRAM, and any other sort of user accessible memory. We do realize the implications of this move, but it is going to happen sooner than people expect.

The functions needed to completely do away with user memory are in place and functioning as of Sandy Bridge-E/EP. How do we know that they work? Intel has a demo unit running around showing various high level folk what can be done, and has been literally pushing this cart around for 6+ months.

Taking DRAM out of the PC build list is a massive step, but as with most integration moves, it is quite inevitable. Haswell will show people what can be done with Interposers, Crystalwell is going to be a wake up call for DRAM vendors, RAM-free PCs will seal the deal. When Intel productizes this feature, and it is in current chips, you can all but kiss main memory goodbye. SemiAccurate knows how it will be done, and, well, it is simply a good idea.

7 posted on 09/10/2012 10:14:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

wow.

computers without RAM??

That’ll be something


8 posted on 09/10/2012 10:22:32 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"10W" highlights that well.

It highlights that they suck, power compared to ARM.

9 posted on 09/10/2012 10:27:43 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: GeronL
wow.

computers without RAM??

That’ll be something

"We must break ourselves of our addiction to RAM."

"More and more RAM is not the answer."

"The United States, with just 5% of the worlds population, uses 60% of the worlds RAM."

"Instead of piling on more and more RAM, a better solution might be to just take the blue pill."

10 posted on 09/10/2012 10:32:05 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom; Lazamataz

lol

RAM, baby, RAM!

hang on, that one sounds vaguely dirty


11 posted on 09/10/2012 10:38:40 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
hang on, that one sounds vaguely dirty

Yes, it does, and it's giving me a hang on.

12 posted on 09/10/2012 10:41:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Lazamataz

a hang on?

13 posted on 09/10/2012 10:45:04 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
There was a session at hot Chips 2012 on Stacking ....one way was to use Interposers....so I include this:

Interposer

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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BGA with a interposer between the integrated circuit die to ball grid array
Pentium II: example of an interposer, integrated circuit die to ball grid array chip carrier

An interposer is an electrical interface routing between one socket or connection to another. The purpose of an interposer is to spread a connection to a wider pitch or to reroute a connection to a different connection.[1]

Interposer comes from the Latin, interpōnere, meaning 'to put up between.' [2]

A common example of an interposer is an integrated circuit die to BGA, such as in the Pentium II. This is done through various substrates, both rigid and flexible, most commonly FR4 for rigid, and polyimide for flexible.[1]

Another example of an interposer would be the adapter used to allow a SATA drive to work in a SAS environment. An interposer would allow a SATA drive to plug into a SAS backplane.

[edit] See also

[edit] References

  1. ^ a b Package Substrates/Interposers
  2. ^ interposes - definition of interposes by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia

14 posted on 09/10/2012 10:52:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: GeronL
So if the processor chip is small and the memory chip is mall....just connect the via an interposer and include both under the heat sink lid like is done with the AMD Magny coours server ship.

It is an old technique....

15 posted on 09/10/2012 10:57:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: GeronL
To complete the picture:

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A small-scale integrated circuit die, with bond wires attached.

16 posted on 09/10/2012 11:02:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

? looks like the thing I had in my calculator watch when I was a kid


17 posted on 09/10/2012 11:06:19 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Technical stuff gives me a headache sometimes. How does that forgo the need for RAM?


18 posted on 09/10/2012 11:09:51 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It is not a novel idea. I can look back on chip sets I worked on that where solely dependent on their own RAM and ROM.

19 posted on 09/10/2012 12:04:07 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

wow.. what the heck is crystalwell? have to get ahold of my nephew. he’s into harry potter. ;-)


20 posted on 09/10/2012 12:16:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: GeronL

See #19.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 1:35:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: NormsRevenge
it is a marketing term as much as anything....Semiaccurate had somethng on it.

I will see if I can find it again.

Here we go:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/10/crystalwell-is-very-wide-memory-for-haswell-gt3/

22 posted on 09/10/2012 1:39:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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