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Early Cannibalism Tied to Territorial Defense?
Smithsonian 'blogs ^ | Wednesday, September 5, 2012 | Erin Wayman

Posted on 09/10/2012 6:08:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The earliest known instance of cannibalism among hominids occurred roughly 800,000 years ago. The victims, mainly children, may have been eaten as part of a strategy to defend territories against neighbors, researchers report online in the Journal of Human Evolution. The new study shows how anthropologists use the behavior of modern humans and primates to make inferences about what hominids did in the past -- and demonstrates the limitations of such comparisons.

The cannibalism in question was discovered in the Gran Dolina cave site of Spain's Atapuerca Mountains. Eudald Carbonell of the University of Rovira and Virgili in Spain and colleagues found evidence of butchering on bones belonging to Homo antecessor, a controversial species that lived in Europe as early as 1.2 million years ago. Because no other hominid species has been found in the region at the same time as the butchered bones, the victims must have been eaten by their own kind, the team concluded in 2010 in the journal Current Anthropology (PDF).

Today, human cannibalism occurs in a variety of contexts: for nutritional value (often in times of starvation), as part of funerary rituals or during warfare. The different purposes of cannibalism can leave different patterns in the archaeological record. When humans consume other humans for purely dietary reasons, the victims are often treated just like any other prey. This is what the researchers found at Gran Dolina. Eleven individuals were butchered in a manner similar to that of deer and other mammals: Bones had cut marks in areas of muscle attachments and the skulls had signs of defleshing.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; grandolinacave; homoantecessor; spain
An artist's reconstruction of Homo antecessor, a hominid species that butchered and ate its own kind. A new study suggests the cannibalism was a form of territorial defense. Image: jlmaral/Flickr

Early Cannibalism Tied to Territorial Defense?

1 posted on 09/10/2012 6:08:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Let's eat grandpa!

(Before the invention of commas!)

2 posted on 09/10/2012 6:10:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Antecessor was a Homo!

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 6:18:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

So you’re saying that Jeff Dahmer just didn’t like his neighbors.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 6:24:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SunkenCiv
Cacambo to the Oreillons, who have found Candide wearing a Jesuit habit and are shouting "let's eat Jesuit! Let's eat Jesuit!"

"...you think you're going to have Jesuit today. That's fine by me. Nothing could be fairer than to treat your enemies this way. The laws of nature do indeed tell us to kill our neighbor, and this is the way people behave thoughout the world. If we ourselves do not exercise our right to eat our neighbor, that's because we've got better things to et. But you haven't the same resources as we have. Certainly it is better to eat one's enemies than to leave the fruits of one's victory for the rooks and the crows."

--Voltaire, Candide, ch. 16.

5 posted on 09/10/2012 6:25:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: cripplecreek

He liked them — served rare.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 6:26:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Now, jesuit a minute!


7 posted on 09/10/2012 6:28:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
The victims, mainly children, may have been eaten as part of a strategy to defend territories against neighbors

Strategy? "That'll teach the lil' bastids to stomp around in the garden!"

8 posted on 09/10/2012 6:29:23 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SunkenCiv

Somebody translate this into spanish and print up pamphlets to drop along the border.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 6:31:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sure...it was territory...that’s it...NOT that they were hungry and the kids were easy prey...nah...THAT couldn’t be it.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 6:39:58 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Ug, hey little girl.

Want berry?


11 posted on 09/10/2012 6:45:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

“Get off my lawn...uh...on SECOND thought...c’mere, kids...


12 posted on 09/10/2012 7:02:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Apparently Hansel and Gretel is a far older story than I realized.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 7:06:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Pharmboy

Cabeza de Vaca was shipwrecked on the Texas coast in 1528 and spent several years among the Indians of that area. He tells of two tribes, Marianes and Yguaces, who killed all their girl babies and gave them to dogs to eat. Their reasoning was that it was bad to marry their own kin, and if they gave their daughters to other tribes they would bear children and cause their enemies to multiply (since all the other tribes were their enemies). They obtained wives by buying them from other tribes.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 7:11:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv

A modest proposal...


15 posted on 09/10/2012 7:16:45 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1330 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: SunkenCiv

Intifadians.


16 posted on 09/10/2012 7:24:48 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: cripplecreek

Indeed...the same thought occurred to me; the fear of our children being taken and eaten by strangers is probably as old as our species...and even—as illustrated here—older.


17 posted on 09/10/2012 7:32:17 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
I had read about Cabeza de Vaca in a colonial history book, but never knew the extent of his cultural anthropological discourses. Thanks for this...

What he described was a a brutal insurance against inbreeding...almost all tribal societies merely have the young women leave the village. It has been theorized by evolutionary biologists that the reason teenage girls are so at odds with their mothers is a remnant of one way to ensure out-migration of the women. Another point is this: when a young adult lives at home, it's usually the son and not the daughter.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 7:42:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The victims, mainly children, may have been eaten as part of a strategy to defend territories against neighbors

Or perhaps they were just hungry.

19 posted on 09/10/2012 8:27:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: cripplecreek
Apparently Hansel and Gretel is a far older story than I realized.

Famine and the accompanying cannibalism were not uncommon in pre-industrial Europe.

20 posted on 09/10/2012 8:29:53 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Pharmboy
Check out Cabeza de Vaca here Adventures in the Unknown Interior of America. He was shipwrecked in Florida in 1527 and wandered around the southwest for eight years, first as a captive slave, and eventually becoming a medicine man and primitive surgeon held in awe by the tribes he met.
21 posted on 09/10/2012 8:41:14 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Pharmboy
Cabeza de Vaca was a remarkable individual. His account is available in a Penguin edition. He was one of four survivors of the Narvaez expedition which went to Florida, then tried to get to Mexico on makeshift rafts. Most of them either died at sea or of disease or exposure after being cast up on the Texas coast. The survivors were slaves of the local Indians for several years.

Cabeza de Vaca is said to be the first European to mention the bison. He also mentions at one point of one group of Indians, "during the time I was among them I saw something very repulsive, namely, a man married to another. These are impotent and womanish beings who dress like and do the work of women." He would not be welcome in today's Democratic Party.

One of the four survivors was a Moroccan slave, Estevanico, whom he sometimes refers to as "the Negro." Not long ago I caught Henry Louis Gates talking about Estevanico's great explorations (greatly exaggering the number of miles he walked) but totally ignoring the others as if he either was alone or was the leader of the group.

22 posted on 09/10/2012 9:33:03 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder about this. There is a near world-wide revulsion to cannibalism and among primates and higher mammals it is not common.


23 posted on 09/11/2012 1:39:48 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
Cannibalism was not uncommon in the new world. Bernal Diaz del Castillo wrote that the Aztec emperor Cuauhtemoc threatened to eat Cortez with mole, which was apparently the preferred sauce to accompany human flesh.
24 posted on 09/11/2012 3:57:52 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: fso301

Or perhaps those kids just ate altogether too much.


25 posted on 09/11/2012 4:47:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; cripplecreek; Pharmboy; null and void; Hardraade

:’D


26 posted on 09/11/2012 4:57:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Verginius Rufus; PUGACHEV; Cronos

Thanks!


27 posted on 09/11/2012 4:58:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PUGACHEV
I believe Amerigo Vespucci mentioned cannibalism among the South American Indians.

Some years ago I saw a film called How Tasty Was My Little Frenchman, about a Frenchman who was shipwrecked on the coast of Brazil in the 16th century, kept for a year by the Indians of the area, who then had a feast where they killed him and ate him. Local custom.

They were quite friendly to him during the course of the year (he is aware of their plans for him). At one point one of the pretty young women of the tribe has sex with him. So at least he was laid before he was sauteed.

28 posted on 09/11/2012 6:27:46 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

They were quite friendly to him during the course of the year
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Of course they were...just fattening him up and we all know that ‘nervous donors’ make for stringy meat while contented, massaged and overly happy donors make prime cuts..


29 posted on 09/11/2012 6:33:30 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Cronos

Not uncommon at all among chimpanzees. Jane Goodall was appalled when she first encountered it, but it is well-described.


30 posted on 09/11/2012 6:55:40 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy
"Get out of my yard, punk."

"Eat me, Old Man."

***hours later***

"Daddy, are there more barbecue pork chops?"

" Sure, baby, all you want... no, not that one Honey, the pork chop with the tattoo on it is for Daddy..." :^O

31 posted on 09/11/2012 7:17:13 PM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: Pharmboy

more information that I didn’t know earlier! thank you


32 posted on 09/12/2012 5:59:52 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: xrmusn

that’s the idea behind kobe beef :)


33 posted on 09/12/2012 6:08:00 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

that’s the idea behind kobe beef :)
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I was more into taking a ‘shot’ at moochies favorite, Wagyu Beef....<: <:

Come to think of it someone that has earned a PERMANENT WIDE LOAD tatoo on her beam instructing the rest of us on diet/nutrition is tantamount to Jeffrey Dohmer publishing a cook book.
But, alas, in todays world it would probably be a best seller.

come


34 posted on 09/12/2012 7:42:19 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Cronos

You’re most welcome. Infanticide is even more common among a wide range of animals (hippopotamuses, many monkey species, lions, cheetahs, gorillas, and many many more). It is accomplished by males who—after chasing off or killing any adult males around the females and offspring—then proceed to kill the young. This allows the mothers to ovulate again and get pregnant by the new males. How often they actually eat the youngsters I do not know (hippos, as you likely know, are vegetarians, and do not eat the ones killed).


35 posted on 09/12/2012 8:24:44 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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