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Ben Stein: Romney's a 'losing candidate'
Politico ^ | ALEX BYERS

Posted on 09/11/2012 7:03:57 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs

"Mr. Romney does not have a plan to turn things around. All he's saying, and correctly so, is that Mr. Obama said he had a plan that would work and it didn't," Stein said. "But does Mr. Romney have a better plan? If he does, we haven't seen it."

The former speechwriter for Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford went on to say he's not satisfied with Paul Ryan's approach to taxes.

"He has bought into what I think is a bit of nonsense about supply-side economics. He has bought into the idea that by cutting taxes, you automatically spur the economy. That would be wonderful if true, and it may be true, but there's no data that it's true,” he said. "And it certainly isn't true that by cutting taxes you spur the economy enough so you make up the lost tax revenue."


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1 posted on 09/11/2012 7:04:08 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Get lost Stein.

Just get lost.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 7:05:34 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Old Ben wants to feel relevant, so he’s spouting off. He was more entertaining in movies.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 7:05:51 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

JFK would disagree with you, Ben.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 7:06:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I have not agreed with Ben since his movie on education. Today, I agree again.


5 posted on 09/11/2012 7:06:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Unleashing energy sector, creating jobs and taxes, removing needless regulations, creating a boom for starters. Then establish some stability with tax rates and its superboom time

If I know the plan, why doesn't Ben ?

6 posted on 09/11/2012 7:08:02 AM PDT by chiller (First check the poll's Dem/Rep/Ind sampling numbers, then re-think.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Very important info. Ben Stein has been anti a Romney victory for months. I was surprised when I first heard it but he has always predicted an Obama victory, this is nothing new.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 7:08:32 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
That would be wonderful if true, and it may be true, but there's no data that it's true,” he said. "And it certainly isn't true that by cutting taxes you spur the economy enough so you make up the lost tax revenue."

Ben, Ben, Ben .... ever heard of Ronald Reagan? He demonstrated this principle, and took us out of the Carter Recession in less than a year.

8 posted on 09/11/2012 7:08:49 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Apparently the plan is to follow the Japanese and continue to support the economy with deficit governmental spending.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 7:10:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Ben has gone off the rails a bit. Lovely man, but not thinking things through so well anymore.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 7:12:27 AM PDT by Marylander (Offendiphobia)
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To: chiller

Ben overlooks the obvious.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 7:12:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Ben has gone off the rails a bit. Lovely man, but not thinking things through so well anymore.


12 posted on 09/11/2012 7:12:35 AM PDT by Marylander (Offendiphobia)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Bueller? Bueller?


13 posted on 09/11/2012 7:13:24 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

“Mr. Romney does not have a plan to turn things around. All he’s saying, and correctly so, is that Mr. Obama said he had a plan that would work and it didn’t,” Stein said. “But does Mr. Romney have a better plan? If he does, we haven’t seen it.”

FU Ben Stein

http://www.mittromney.com/jobs

Do you want me to click on the link for you also? You dumb azzhat.


14 posted on 09/11/2012 7:13:24 AM PDT by ILS21R (The time is nigh.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

He has a point. EDven the economic growth created by supply side tax cuts will not fund trillion dollar deficits without spending cuts, and regulatory sanity.


15 posted on 09/11/2012 7:14:56 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

we still have these arguments on basic tenants of economics and capitalism. While a complex chain of cause and effects is involved at the heart it is quite simple. How could increased overhead help economic growth?

our side seems incapable of educating the public on basic economics.


16 posted on 09/11/2012 7:16:33 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Romney ha a plan that he simplify from 59 points (I think) to only 5 points--which he mentioned in his speech. Last week was DNC. It's stupid to revealanything important then. I expect RR will slowly highlight and elaborate their plan starting this week.

When people accuse a candidate of not having a plan, usually they are quote ignorant, or simply being deft selectively. Or, they just ignore the plan that the candidate put forward, because they don't agree with it but don't know why let alone argue against it. Since they cannot tell people why they disagree, they keep spewing "Romney doesn't have a plan!"

17 posted on 09/11/2012 7:17:23 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: plain talk

We can’t even educate them on speaking proper English, much less economics.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 7:17:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: paudio

John Kerry had a plan.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 7:18:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Well this is just a lie. I have never been a Romney fan and I’m not one now though I’m voting for him because if he is a devil he is the devil that will respond when we pull his leash. Obama must go. That aside if there is any fault with Romney it most certainly isn’t a lack of plans. Hell if anything can be said it is he has an overly complicated 59 point plan for the economy. Stein is a weird bird. I don’t know if he just doesn’t use the internet or just cant find Romney’s web site or didn’t watch any of the primary debates but the idea that Romney and Ryan don’t have “a plan” is absurd. It probably is just the case he wants Romney to lose because he is a big govt proponent.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 7:19:14 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

big Al franken supporter!!!


21 posted on 09/11/2012 7:22:03 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Maelstorm

I suddenly believed that Romney is a losing candidate when I read that he backed off repealing obamacare.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 7:24:19 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Marylander; flaglady47; mickie
"Ben has gone off the rails a bit."

Gone off the rails....a BIT?

Ben is actually an ideological train wreck now ....having boarded the liberal choo-choo quite a while back.

Just because this owlish little cartoon character is such a fetching, droll gnome doesn't make him all the less subversive in his comments or all the more intelligent with his aid-and-assist-the-enemy observations.

Leni

23 posted on 09/11/2012 7:26:27 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Hodar

I fail to understand how an educated Ben Stein would support an administration who fails its allies and is destroying an economy to favor a slide towards communism. Wake up Stein! Have you been watching the was Israel has been treated lately?


24 posted on 09/11/2012 7:26:33 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: Hodar

I fail to understand how an educated Ben Stein would support an administration who fails its allies and is destroying an economy to favor a slide towards communism. Wake up Stein! Have you been watching the way Israel has been treated lately?


25 posted on 09/11/2012 7:27:25 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: ILS21R

Excellent response. We haven’t seen the plan... Ridiculous.


26 posted on 09/11/2012 7:27:41 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: ILS21R

Thanks for the link. This is the second time today one of us ‘lowly’ freepers has succinctly addressed the statement of ‘no specific’s with a link to Mitt’s own website WITH the specifics. For some reason, the candidates are sticking with generalities and not reciting their own plan. It is frustrating.

I understand holding back before the DNC so they don’t have a forum to bash it without the benefit of responding, but now is the time to lay contrasts and tie Obama’s policy to the crappy economy.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 7:28:05 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: bmwcyle

If Romney continues to play Mr. Milquetoast I will not vote at all .


28 posted on 09/11/2012 7:28:54 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: WVNan
"I suddenly believed that Romney is a losing candidate when I read that he backed off repealing obamacare."

Huh?

“I have my own healthcare plan and it does not require Obamacare to make our healthcare system work better,” Romney promised. “Obamacare is a disaster in my opinion, and has to be repealed entirely.

But that doesn’t mean that we can’t do some important things to improve our healthcare system – like for instance, getting medical malpractice reform, taking actions to lower the cost of healthcare. And of course, people shouldn’t be able to be dropped from their insurance if they get ill. These are all parts of the plan that I put out in Michigan, oh, a year – year and a half ago describing my healthcare plan.”

29 posted on 09/11/2012 7:30:14 AM PDT by ILS21R (The time is nigh.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

If Ben Stein were saying Romney is a winner. Politico would not care. The media is scandalous.


30 posted on 09/11/2012 7:35:29 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Mr. RINO Has-Been speaks.


31 posted on 09/11/2012 7:40:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Mr. RINO Has-Been speaks.


32 posted on 09/11/2012 7:40:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: WVNan

Yep. Romney is first and foremost a big-government technocrat, and if thinks he’s got anything to prove, it’s that he was right with Romneycare. He’s simply eager to get under the hood and tinker with how Obamacare is structured bureaucratically.

Even his state by state ads now are making promises to create x-amount of jobs for this state, and x-amount of jobs for that state. The same that he personally is promising that as president he’ll assure that every kid has a great teacher and a great education.

All of those promises come from the heart of the pure bureaucrat. That’s who he is.

But still we have to, as I will, vote for him in November. Sigh.


33 posted on 09/11/2012 7:51:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: toolman1401

While you’re wrapping your head around that, you might as well wrap your head around all the Jewish voters who have the same views.


34 posted on 09/11/2012 7:53:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Ben needs some Clear Brain drops.


35 posted on 09/11/2012 7:54:37 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen.)
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To: paudio
they keep spewing "Romney doesn't have a plan!"

Kinda like the Dems screaming for the last two years that the Republicans haven't put forth any economic plans!!
36 posted on 09/11/2012 8:01:40 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: toolman1401
I fail to understand how an educated Ben Stein would support an administration who fails its allies and is destroying an economy to favor a slide towards communism.

It's not hard for me to understand at all.

All I have to do is look at the last few days here and see the hand wringing.People know that Obama is the candidate of the media, yet they continue to let the media work their magic.


37 posted on 09/11/2012 8:11:45 AM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: MinuteGal
Ben is actually an ideological train wreck now ....having boarded the liberal choo-choo quite a while back.

True. Too bad this is true as well:

Mitt is actually an ideological train wreck now ....having boarded the liberal choo-choo quite a while back.
38 posted on 09/11/2012 8:22:18 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Poor Ben. He still thinks that raising taxes helps the economy.


39 posted on 09/11/2012 8:26:23 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

A broken clock.


40 posted on 09/11/2012 8:33:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: plain talk

The economic equation is rigged:
GDP = Private Sector Wealth Creation + Gov Spending
As the private sector creates less wealth, the government must spend exponentially more.


41 posted on 09/11/2012 8:36:31 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: dfwgator

We can’t even educate them on speaking proper English, much less economics.

A year ago you would be giving Ben Stein a high five. Today you blast him. You guys are so fake that you don’t even hide it any more. Don’t you dare tell me that you loved Romney a year ago. It is one thing to vote for the turd, but it is another to lie and exaggerate on your thoughts.


42 posted on 09/11/2012 8:37:12 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: napscoordinator

I hate Obama more that I hate Romney.


43 posted on 09/11/2012 8:38:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Daveinyork

Did Mr. Stein mention spending cuts anywhere?


44 posted on 09/11/2012 8:40:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator

We all do and we all are voting for him but to start blasting people for telling the truth about Romney is a bit much. That is it really. Nothing more to it. Romney sucks but will get my vote. I refuse to bash people who tell it like it is about Romney though.


45 posted on 09/11/2012 8:40:53 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: napscoordinator

Furthermore my criticism of Mr. Stein was based on his attacks on supply-side economics, of which I happen to be a big believer in. Of course Mitt isn’t a supply sider.


46 posted on 09/11/2012 8:42:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Everyone needs to realize that the next president elected will be making Supreme Court nominations. The last two picks provided left something to be desired.


47 posted on 09/11/2012 8:58:34 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: toolman1401
The last two picks provided left something to be desired.

Three out of the last four picks left something to be desired.

48 posted on 09/11/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
"The former speechwriter for Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford went on to say he's not satisfied with Paul Ryan's approach to taxes. "He has bought into what I think is a bit of nonsense about supply-side economics. He has bought into the idea that by cutting taxes, you automatically spur the economy. That would be wonderful if true, and it may be true, but there's no data that it's true,”...

Nixon and Ford? Supply-Side theory was only taught at the University of Chicago Business School by guys like Milton Friedman. Back then it was all Keynesian leftist crap and John Kenneth Galbraith was media go to guy. Supply-Side economics was not common knowledge nor was it metioned by the leftist Cronkite during those years...not until Reagan.

Ben must not be getting any calls from Hollywood.

49 posted on 09/11/2012 9:01:13 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: toolman1401

Romney was prone to naming Democrats to the bench in MA, but at least we’d have a chance to apply pressure and keep him from a Souter/Miers pick if he were in instead of Barry.


50 posted on 09/11/2012 9:09:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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