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Limbaugh Predicts Total Economic Collapse in U.S. if President Obama Re-Elected
The Blaze ^ | 9/10/12 | Becket Adams Print Email

Posted on 09/11/2012 9:33:30 AM PDT by Kartographer

Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh on Monday said that a second term for President Barack Obama would lead to the collapse of the the U.S economy.

“We’re spending a trillion dollars we don’t have on welfare. It’s not that we’re taxing producers and redistributing the money. We’re borrowing it; we’re printing it. We don’t have it! Over a trillion dollars a year,” Limbaugh said.

“There’s been $5.5 trillion added to the national debt in 3-1/2 years by this president. There just isn’t the money for this. At some point (and it’s sooner rather than later) there will be a collapse,” he added.

And in regards to the amount added to the national debt: he’s not exaggerating. That’s the actual amount that has been added since 2009.

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1 posted on 09/11/2012 9:33:34 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Yep the student loan bubble scam will have to be popped. Kids borrow money, fund Marxists at college, Marxists support politicians who fund bubble dynamics, a classic racket.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 9:35:05 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Kartographer

Glenn Beck does get on my nerve at times, but as I said yesterday it looks like he was ahead of the curve on this.

Direct Audio Link to Rush speach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QN_S1q4r3U&feature=player_embedded


3 posted on 09/11/2012 9:36:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
On the bright side, we'll have money to burn!


4 posted on 09/11/2012 9:36:27 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1331 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Kartographer
Some times the thread header is funny to watch. These two stories posted right next to each other.

Limbaugh Predicts Total Economic Collapse in U.S. if President Obama Re-Elected

Federal regulations increased 7.4% during Obama’s first three years

5 posted on 09/11/2012 9:37:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Kartographer

I agree 1000%.

LLS


6 posted on 09/11/2012 9:40:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Kartographer

The way Obama intends to bring America to its knees is to bankrupt us. Debt owed to others will cause us to be indentured servants, and to cause runaway inflation.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 9:43:21 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: Kartographer

Yeah . . . I think that’s about right.


8 posted on 09/11/2012 9:44:05 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Kartographer

I agree.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 9:44:31 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Kartographer

Where has Rush been? Where was he on the NBC issue? I guess he and Hannity and Eeeg0-Rielly get serious when the collapse will hit their wallet.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 9:45:14 AM PDT by Terry Mross (2016 THE MOVIE....scarier than any zombie movie.)
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To: Kartographer

It is probably going to collapse anyway. Too much water under the bridge.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 9:45:38 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Kartographer

No more government backed school loans. If you aren’t a good risk, no loan for you. No more $50,000 loans to take Feminst Basket Weaving in Imperialist America 101.

....

Of course thats just a drop in the bucket. All of these problems are caused by government in one way or another.


12 posted on 09/11/2012 9:48:51 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Kartographer

Cash and metals, cash and metals.


13 posted on 09/11/2012 9:54:40 AM PDT by gotribe
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To: Kartographer


14 posted on 09/11/2012 9:57:52 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: gotribe

I have to go with Selco on the cash. Doubt it would be worth nothing during SHTF. Say you are trying to get out of town and you just brough the last ten gallons of gas at a station and there’s no telling when they will get resupplied, how much is that gasoline worth?


15 posted on 09/11/2012 10:01:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
>"“We’re spending a trillion dollars we don’t have on welfare."

Respecfully I disagree.

It isn't welfare it's been "spent" on.

It's been STOLEN!

16 posted on 09/11/2012 10:02:03 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Kartographer

No way our economy can survive another 4 years of what Obama has done for the last 4.

Interest rates on savings is zilch, Printing money leads to inflation,borrowing only gets us further in debt, and soon we will be unable to borrow as everyone else is in debt too.

Food and energy prices going up,and the dipstick is threatening to close down the coal industry.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 10:02:52 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kartographer

In the short term, things will actually appear to get better, the disaster to come years later, so they can blame it on someone else.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 10:05:25 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Kartographer
Limbaugh Predicts Total Economic Collapse in U.S. if President Obama Re-Elected

That's the plan isn't it? How else do you 'fundementally change' America without first bringing her to her knees?

19 posted on 09/11/2012 10:06:31 AM PDT by dannybob ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Kartographer
"Say you are trying to get out of town and you just brough the last ten gallons of gas at a station and there’s no telling when they will get resupplied, how much is that gasoline worth?"

That's why it's good to have a high mpg Diesel car and a (portable) stash at home.

20 posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:13 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kartographer
I'm not sure we will fare much better under Romney.
21 posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:43 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Terry Mross

Limbaugh has Obama pegged well before the 2008 election, and in the post-2008 inauguration period, he was the only one to say it...he knew what Obama’s goals are and called him on it.

On the birth certificate issue...everyone has run from it, even our most outspoken advocates. Pretty much not going to matter much between now and November 6.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:59 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Paradox

could be... I’m thinking the collapse will come 2016...2 years after this Zerocare kicks in. If he wins, this Zerocare is here to stay, and that’s the ballgame folks. There is NO way this Zerocare can be paid for... no way.


23 posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:59 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: junta

The student loans are a nothing but a hair on a flea compared to the entire dog of a mess Hussein has put us in.


24 posted on 09/11/2012 10:10:37 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Blogger

I don’t see how we can avoid a collapse, but when the SHTF, a lot will depend on who controls the military and who controls the local police.


25 posted on 09/11/2012 10:10:59 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Venturer
"borrowing only gets us further in debt"

Credit is the new money. The US is a Creditalist country, no longer Capitalistic.

26 posted on 09/11/2012 10:11:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paradox
In the short term, things will actually appear to get better, the disaster to come years later, so they can blame it on someone else.

I want to agree with you but I am reminded that there are still 3 dozen or so czars out there just waiting to take the reins of power after the collapse. To perfect the progressive revolution they will need to be in office.

27 posted on 09/11/2012 10:13:41 AM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: DannyTN

Here’s a lot of detail on the economic plan:

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/tax
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/energy
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/spending
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/regulation


28 posted on 09/11/2012 10:14:10 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Kartographer
Rush is both right and wrong. I believe the economy is going to collapse. (Maybe not totally but we are gonna see shit that will make your Grandparents long for the simpler days of the Depression)

But Whether Obama gets re-elected or not won't have much of an effect. What it WILL have an effect on is how we as a nation go about fixing the mess. Obama and the DIMWHITcrats will use it to institute draconian Socialist regulations and programs. If the Republicans win they'll do the same thing but claim its a Conservative thing to do in this hour of need.

29 posted on 09/11/2012 10:16:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Kartographer

That’s about as safe a prediction as “the Houston Astros are gonna lose 130 games in the American League next season”.


30 posted on 09/11/2012 10:19:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Blogger
“”It is probably going to collapse anyway. Too much water under the bridge.”

There's a lot of money on the sidelines out there, but too much uncertainty regarding who we are going to be as a nation. In the past, investors would wait a bit to see about things like capital gains rates etc. Now, they are actually waiting to see who we are going to be as a nation. If reassured that we are going to continue to be a capitalist nation based on individual creativity and effort, they will be all in rather quickly, and this can turn around fairly quickly.

On the other hand, if they feel we are going to continue down the path toward societal homogenization, with ‘winners’ only in politics, sports, and the entertainment industry, and the rest of us one big indistinguishable mass of ‘fairness’, they will figure out something else to do with their money, and their efforts - and essentially try to find a way to ‘go Gault’.

Hopefully, none of this will come to pass, because the ill-informed ideologue in chief will be handily defeated and be essentially humiliated - which he deserves for the hate that he spews. Incidentally, there is no more dangerous and deep hatred than that which is held for a lifetime and that is externally restrained. That is what is at the core of someone who thinks that all injustice in the nation and the world is embodied by a specific group of people (successful non-minority Americans). Sadly, many of us thought we were past identity politics and ideology, me included.

31 posted on 09/11/2012 10:34:40 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Kartographer
a second term for President Barack Obama would lead to the collapse of the the U.S economy.

Just because the Cold War is over doesn't mean the communists gave up. Their mantra was "Burn, baby burn" and what better way to achieve that than a total worldwide economic collapse?

32 posted on 09/11/2012 10:40:01 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Kartographer
"Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh on Monday said that a second term for President Barack Obama would lead to the collapse of the the U.S economy."

Straight up payback for Schumer's IndyMac 'letter'.

33 posted on 09/11/2012 10:41:51 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: bestintxas
The way Obama intends to bring America to its knees is to bankrupt us. Debt owed to others will cause us to be indentured servants, and to cause runaway inflation.

What the communists really want is for America, Europe and Japan to collapse together under the crushing load of debt. Economies come to a halt, nobody is able to pay rent or mortgages and the governments step in and nationalize housing.

34 posted on 09/11/2012 10:46:05 AM PDT by fso301
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To: ilgipper
I took a look at the Energy and Trade plans on that site.

The energy plan is moving in the right direction, but I'd like to see it more aggressive. A two year approval process for a new reactor at an existing approved site still seems ridiculous. At that rate, Mitt might be approving some new reactors before his first term is up, but nothing will be built.

His trade plan is still weak. It's focused on opening new markets and reducing trade barriers. When that's the problem. We've lowered our trade barriers so far that countries with excess and very cheap labor like China simply take our jobs.

We had import tariffs from the start of our country until the 1980's free trade mania that served us well. Now we've export an amazing amount of jobs and imported cheap labor to boot.

Mitt doesn't talk at all about protecting our market.

Mitt does at least acknowledge China is abusing the relationship, but it's clear Mitt just wants China to play by the rules. He still wants a completely open trading relationship with China. And that's not wise when we have unemployment. We need to protect our market until our own people are gainfully employed. Then we can consider how best to use cheap labor abroad.

Mitt isn't going to roll back much of health reform. After all he authored Romneycare. At best, I expect him to change the mandate from a tax penalty to a tax credit with an associated increase in general taxes to cover it. That'll make it more palatable, because we are used to tax credits, but in effect, it will be exactly the same.

He may make ObamaRomneycare a voluntary state program rather than a federal program, but he will offer federal purse strings large enough that no state can refuse them. So again, it's mostly semantics. The cost isn't going to improve. And he's still got to pay for the Bush drug program. So I'm not seeing economic gains from healthcare.

Romney is not going to be able to cut enough regulations to make a difference. And most of them are automated now anyway. And even if he could eliminate all regulations, it wouldn't make a difference in the outsourcing. Companies like to complain about taxes and regulations but cheap labor is why they are outsourcing, not taxes and regulations.

And while I certainly agree that cutting government spending is necessary and will help long term. If it's done short term before the structural issues of trade and energy are addressed, it may send us over the cliff faster.

35 posted on 09/11/2012 10:52:33 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ilgipper
I took a look at the Energy and Trade plans on that site.

The energy plan is moving in the right direction, but I'd like to see it more aggressive. A two year approval process for a new reactor at an existing approved site still seems ridiculous. At that rate, Mitt might be approving some new reactors before his first term is up, but nothing will be built.

His trade plan is still weak. It's focused on opening new markets and reducing trade barriers. When that's the problem. We've lowered our trade barriers so far that countries with excess and very cheap labor like China simply take our jobs.

We had import tariffs from the start of our country until the 1980's free trade mania that served us well. Now we've export an amazing amount of jobs and imported cheap labor to boot.

Mitt doesn't talk at all about protecting our market.

Mitt does at least acknowledge China is abusing the relationship, but it's clear Mitt just wants China to play by the rules. He still wants a completely open trading relationship with China. And that's not wise when we have unemployment. We need to protect our market until our own people are gainfully employed. Then we can consider how best to use cheap labor abroad.

Mitt isn't going to roll back much of health reform. After all he authored Romneycare. At best, I expect him to change the mandate from a tax penalty to a tax credit with an associated increase in general taxes to cover it. That'll make it more palatable, because we are used to tax credits, but in effect, it will be exactly the same.

He may make ObamaRomneycare a voluntary state program rather than a federal program, but he will offer federal purse strings large enough that no state can refuse them. So again, it's mostly semantics. The cost isn't going to improve. And he's still got to pay for the Bush drug program. So I'm not seeing economic gains from healthcare.

Romney is not going to be able to cut enough regulations to make a difference. And most of them are automated now anyway. And even if he could eliminate all regulations, it wouldn't make a difference in the outsourcing. Companies like to complain about taxes and regulations but cheap labor is why they are outsourcing, not taxes and regulations.

And while I certainly agree that cutting government spending is necessary and will help long term. If it's done short term before the structural issues of trade and energy are addressed, it may send us over the cliff faster.

36 posted on 09/11/2012 10:52:49 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Kartographer
Obama's second term.. another economic disaster? Not that again!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts

"The Revolution Was" portrays FDR's New Deal as "a 'revolution within the form' that undermined the American republic". It was one of many essays by New Deal critic Garet Garrett (February 19, 1878 – November 6, 1954), born Edward Peter Garrett.

No crisis goes to waste?

"The scientific study of revolution included of course analysis of opportunity. First and always the master of revolutionary technic is an opportunist. He must know opportunity when he sees it in the becoming; he must know how to stalk it, how to let it ripen, how to adapt his means to the realities. The basic ingredients of opportunity are few; nearly always it is how they are mixed that matters. But the one indispensable ingredient is economic distress, and if there is enough of that the mixture will take care of itself.

"The Great Depression as it developed here was such an opportunity [that was not wasted] as might have been made to order. The economic distress was relative, which is to say that at the worst of it living in this country was better than living almost anywhere else in the world. The pain, nevertheless, was very acute; and much worse than any actual hurt was a nameless fear, a kind of active despair, that assumed the proportions of a national psychosis."

. . .

"This revolutionary elite was nothing you could define as a party. It had no name, no habitat, no rigid line. [There was a Communist Party but it was too obvious, too crude.] Nobody could say that about the elite above . . . What it represented was a quantity of bitter intellectual radicalism infiltrated from the top downward as a doctorhood of professors, writers, critics, analysts, advisers, administators, directors of research, and so on — a prepared revolutionary intelligence in spectacles . . . there was a shibboleth that united them all: "Capitalism is finished." [and one idea] the idea of a transfer of power. For that a united front; after that, anything. And the wine of communion was a passion to play upon history with a scientific revolutionary technic.

. . .

"[The aims of the recovery from the Great Depression could be considered two sides of a coin] One side only would represent the revolutionary intention. The other side in each case would represent Recovery — and that was the side the New Deal constantly held up to view. Nearly everything it did was in the name of Recovery. But in no case was it true that for the ends of economic recovery alone one solution or one course and one only was feasible. In each case there was an alternative and therefore a choice to make."

This revolutionary elite has no name, no habitat, no rigid line just a bitter intellectual radicalism infiltrated from the top downward as a doctorhood of professors, writers, critics, analysts, advisers, administators, directors of research, and so on — a prepared revolutionary intelligence in spectacles.. hey! that sounds like..

Richard Carlson: . . . a zombie has no will of his own. You see them some times, walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.

Bob Hope: You mean, like Democrats?

"Ghost Breakers" (1940)

37 posted on 09/11/2012 10:55:13 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: gotribe

Brass and lead, brass and lead.


38 posted on 09/11/2012 11:15:40 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: fso301

I fear myself ending up “retiring” in a soviet styled dormitory, and I would probably be one of the “lucky ones”.


39 posted on 09/11/2012 11:17:54 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Kartographer

There’s no need for a government that has Tax Revenue in the trillions to borrow one cent.

There simply is no NEED for the government to borrow in today’s economic situation.

Every Federal borrowing (let’s refer to them here as bonds) represents one thing: a claim on Tax Revenue.

The government only has a few months spending in Cash on Hand. It simply does not have piles of cash. It borrows like a person who buys food and gasoline with a credit card, then pays the minimum payment - it lives hand to mouth.

Who wants the Treasury to issue bonds - our representative goverment - most members of Congress.

They - being the ones who authorize the government to spend - are the gatekeepers to trillions of taxpayer dollars.

The largest American publicly-held corporations, as well as all sorts of foreign entities, and American populist special interest groups, fall all over themselves getting members of Congress to pass laws that open the Federal money spigot and point it in their general direction.

The government is almost entirely corrupted in this way.

Collapse ? Well, a three-way fight will ensue between the largest holders of Treasury bonds, the taxpayers and the recipients of government largesse. The holders of government debt wind up taking some writedowns on the debt they own, because new buyers of government debt are always needed to provide cash, and eventually they will stipulate such terms, realizing that there will come a point where the cash they pay for new bonds can’t even pay the interest on bonds outstanding. The buyers of new issues of bonds don’t want to put their hard-earned cash into a debt ponzi.

Government politicians and many people today do not understand the bare bones, ultra-simple fundamentals of life, because they’ve listened to so much communist propaganda claptrap in school and in the media for so many decades. People and businesses, i.e., the entire private sector, only has money that they Earned. That’s the only real way to acquire money - earn it. Cash that is borrowed comes with the requirement to pay it back - it has not been earned.

This is where the idea of redistribution goes awry: the only way Johnny taxpayer gets money is by earning it. And then redistributionists want Johnny to simply give money to others for nothing in exchange - the recipients will not have “earned” the money. Instead, they will be rewarded with money for doing nothing.

We see this playing out in Europe now. Politicians in a delusional state of mind, not wanting to admit that they have spent too far out in front of Tax Revenue to be able to avoid default. It’s like borrowing from your local loan shark. The way the deal works is that he makes sure that between how much you borrow, what interest he charges, and how small your weekly payment is relative to what you owe, that you will be indebted to him for your whole life. With a nation of taxpayers, however, there is no escape of death, for there are other taxpayers who follow those who die.

Now, as long as the corrupt government “spending” continues, the government will simply print new bonds, say they’re issued and someone like a large bank or central bank has “bought” them, accept cash from the buyer, and instead of paying down existing debt - the government pays only interest and spends the rest !

Government bonds are NOT an investment in the true sense of the word, since the money is not invested in a business venture which will pay back the bonds. The money is spent by government; it’s an expense outlay for the costs of running a government, not a capital investment.

A capital investment requires that the asset purchased can be used to generate a future cash flow.

The payback of government bonds does not come from a government business venture, it comes from Taxation.

If a majority of members of Congress could only decide to stop buying votes with populist spending, and to stop their constant and damaging market interventions, and eliminate all but the essentials, the government would have hundreds of billions every year surplus which could be used to retire debt permanently.

The government would never have to borrow again except possibly in times of war.


40 posted on 09/11/2012 11:34:25 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: DannyTN

Some good analysis. With Healthcare, remember, there is already complete repeal passed in the House. Those members cannot expect to get reelected in 2014 if they renege on that. The voters will hold their feet to the fire on that one. The Senate will be a different story, and that’s where your scenario is a real one.

My only argument is that Romney is not really the author of Romneycare. It was a largely Democrat statehouse, and he participated. Ultimately he owns it, just like Obama owns his odoriferous health care bill, but it is not like this is his passion nor his bread and butter. His purpose in being president isn’t to implement Romneycare.

The key to getting rid of Obamacare as passed is to get rid of the giant new government bureaucracy, the panels of bureaucrats and the countless taxes and regulations that further distort the industry. Unfortunately, we’ll probably end up with some aspects that poll well because none of these guys are going to fight to the death over those portions and risk no repeal.

I am not as bearish on health care as others with Romney’s stupid comments this weekend. He’s trying to show himself to be moderate to the moderate voters. It is ill conceived, but not too alarming to me. More alarming is that he was given the blueprint by Santorum, Newt and others on this issue and seems to be going moderate verses explaining the problems. That is unfortunate, but not unexpected. Repealing Obamacare is going to be a bear no matter how much Romney wins by, or how many Senate seats we get this cycle. It is really hard to get rid of entitlements, the Dems are going to pull out all the sob stories before and after the election.


41 posted on 09/11/2012 11:51:50 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: bgill

Denninger is pretty adamant that the growth in credit is from student loans.


42 posted on 09/11/2012 12:17:37 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Kartographer
lead to the collapse of the the U.S economy.

and the beginning of the revolution of the proletariat

43 posted on 09/11/2012 1:51:39 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Kartographer
"...a second term for President Barack Obama would lead to the collapse of the the U.S economy."

It doesn't matter who's in the Oval office; the stuff is going to hit the fan, it's just a question of who's more qualified to put it off the longest.

The Kenyan must go.

44 posted on 09/11/2012 2:37:06 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Kartographer

Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.


45 posted on 09/11/2012 3:35:58 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Kartographer

Who is Selco?

The reason you want cash is that paper money and coinage only make up 10% of the money supply, the rest being digital. For sure the digital money will disappear, but people will be hungry for cash and coin - there won’t be any debit cards, checks or credit cards.


46 posted on 09/11/2012 4:04:12 PM PDT by gotribe
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To: gotribe

If you want to learn what happens I suggest you read some of Selco’s firsthand experiences in Bosnia:

A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In The Middle Of A War Zone

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts


47 posted on 09/11/2012 5:20:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the link! Very interesting.


48 posted on 09/11/2012 5:44:14 PM PDT by gotribe
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