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On Meet The Press, Ann Romney Said That She Can Empathize With People. But Can Mitt?
9/11/2012 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:29 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Before the barrage of ad homs begins, ask yourself this question: why did the Romneys let themselves get sucked into this kind of talk on Meet the Press (with David Brooks) on Sunday in the first place?

Why is she saying that they (the Romneys) know what it is like to struggle, and then proffer her own personal health struggles as evidence that they know what it is like to struggle?

Why are they letting themselves get sucked into this....

.... because the inevitable question surfaces and arises: voters will feel empathy towards Ann Romney, but they will ask how Mitt Romney has struggled (financially or whatever) and how he can therefore empathize with people. And they will say that Mitt is on the ticket, not her.

And finally... it seems to echo John Edwards from 2007-8.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; annromney; davidbrooks; elections; meetthepress; mittromney; obama; rinofreeamerica; romney; romney2012; romneytruthfile; theyfeelyourpain

1 posted on 09/11/2012 10:09:37 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Why did they let themselves get sucked into this “we feel your pain” stuff? No one twisted their arms and forced them to get sucked into this kind of talk.

Maybe their media handlers thought that it would be good for them to talk about this Sunday on MTP. Who knows...


2 posted on 09/11/2012 10:12:48 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

bull..I want someone who will stop the wasteful spending , promote jobs and secure the country.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 10:13:34 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Not interested in any politician’s empathy or sympathy. Just want him to do the right thing.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 10:15:38 AM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Considering the disaster in office right now, this is NOT an issue that voters should be worried about.

This is one of the really really stupid things American voters worry about. A President of 330 million people doesn’t have the time or energy to spend worrying about you. Yet about 15% of the voters will decide their vote on THIS stupid feelings issue.


5 posted on 09/11/2012 10:16:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: dalebert

Then why are the Romneys, especially Ann, talking about this “we feel your pain” stuff and can empathize with you? People will inevitably ask how Mitt can personally empathize with others, since he is running for Prez, not her. Why are they talking about this stuff? It reminds one of John Edwards in 2007-2008.


6 posted on 09/11/2012 10:17:55 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: all the best

Then why are the Romneys letting themsleves get sucked into this “we can empathize with you...we have also struggled” stuff?


7 posted on 09/11/2012 10:19:58 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: all the best
"Not interested in any politician’s empathy or sympathy. Just want him to do the right thing."

That's right. The President needs to limit himself to Article 2 of the US Constitution and feeling sympathy is not part of it. I don't want a President that "Empathizes" with people, I want a President that protects liberty.

8 posted on 09/11/2012 10:27:12 AM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: GregoTX

Then why are the Romneys letting themselves get sucked into this kind of talk?


9 posted on 09/11/2012 10:29:32 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Why is she saying that they (the Romneys) know what it is like to struggle, and then proffer her own personal health struggles as evidence that they know what it is like to struggle?

Why are you creating a phony strawman? Let's go to the transcript.

GREGORY: …and to talk about your husband. And to talk about how he's connected to people in your lives and in-- in your family. There was something that caught my attention, I'm sure it caught yours from the keynote speaker of the Democratic convention, which is-- sort of went to this charge that somehow neither one of you are as empathetic about what's going on in the country to people who are out of work. And the line was from-- from Julian Castro, the mayor of San Antonio, “You just don't know how good you've had it.” How did that sit with you?

MS. ROMNEY: Well, I think the-- the thing that I want to communicate to people, and that it's so important that people understand, is that Mitt and I do recognize that we have not had a financial struggle in our lives. But I want people to believe in their hearts that we know what it is like to struggle. And our struggles have not been financial, but they've been with health and with difficulties in-- in different things in life. And one thing that I-- that I again like to remind people is that multiple sclerosis has been my teacher. It has been at times a cruel teacher. But it has also been a great gift in my life because what it has done it has taught me to be more compassionate and caring for others that are suffering. And I know that people are suffering right now. And for people to think that we don't have empathy just because we're not suffering like they're suffering is-- is ridiculous. It’s-- it’s ridiculous to think that you can’t have empathy for somebody that’s struggling.

Our life has always been devoted to those that are struggling more than we are and I was grateful for the opportunity that we had at the convention for others to speak up and talk about the kind of lives we’ve led-- we’ve led. And in particular for Mitt who really has been demonized in many ways as being heartless. And for people to stand up and say, excuse me, he was there when my son was dying of leukemia. He came to my son’s bedside. He did all of these things for my son. And then another woman saying how Mitt was there for her. So there’re hundreds of those stories that haven’t been told. And it was refreshing to me for the American people to finally be able to see the lens through which I see my husband and the perspective in which I understand how he operates.

GREGORY: As a candidate now when was the last time you really got to spend some-- some quality time with somebody who is out of work and what did you get from them?

MR. ROMNEY: Well, actually, just last night it was I was with a person who is facing some challenge. We spent some time together and shared our personal experiences in an effort on my part to point out that we can make it through tough times. Look, that’s part of everyday life for mo-- most people. You have friends and you have acquaintances that have challenges and you talk about them. And-- and I can tell you this, my-- my life has been greatly enriched by my relationship with this young lady here and I know how well I’ve got it because I was able to marry Ann. But the reason I’m in this race is to help people. I’m not in this race to slow the rise of the oceans or to heal the planet. I’m in this race to help the American people. And this is a commitment on my part, on Ann’s part, on our family’s part, because we care very deeply about this country. And-- and I-- I really think that-- that those people that try and minimize the-- the feeling and the connection we have with the American people really miss the mark very badly and are trying to divide Americans based on who has money and who was able to achieve success and who does not have as much. And frankly Americans are not defined by whether they were successful financially or not. We’re a nation that has come together and a United America can solve that kind of challenges we have today.

10 posted on 09/11/2012 10:31:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

They were responding to a direct question from Gregory. What should their response have been? I provided the transcript in an earlier post. IMO they handled the question well.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 10:35:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Why are you making up the bvogus charge that I am offering up a strawamn?

I offered up NO strawman.

Ann Romney said that MS has been her teacher. You quoted it. Period. So that backs up what I said: She did proffer her personal struggles that she has faced as evidence that she can empathize with people.

And it then leads to Mitt: Can he personally empathize with people?

Why did they let themselves get into this?


12 posted on 09/11/2012 10:35:38 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Candidates do not get "sucked" into trying to show their human side; it has always been standard politics:

Examples, William Henry Harrison, the hero of the Battle of Tippicanoe, ran for President using a "log cabin" emblem, although he was actually born in the Harrison's beautiful Virginia Tidewater Manor House.

Lincoln, who actually had been born in a log cabin, copied Harrison's technique.

FDR, who basically promoted a domestic policy very similar to that of the National Socialists in Germany, in the same era, used his little dog "Falla," to project a vastly kinder, more humane image than that of his German equivalent. To similar effect were his cozy "fireside talks."

Jimmy Carter's carrying his own suitcase in 1976, was his device for the same purpose.

The Romney Convention set the tone for emphasizing the personal compassion that Gov. Romney has shown to neighbors & other close acquaintance, through the years. It is perfectly legitimate & can only help. Remember that most Americans are not really ideological--except in a negative sense of knowing things that they do not like.

What we, who really do care about the issues, must do is to gently, but politely, patiently & persistently, seek to move the discussion around Gov. Romney in a traditionally American direction. (Why & How To Support Romney/Ryan.)

William Flax

13 posted on 09/11/2012 10:38:23 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Read the transcript again real slow so your lips don't get tired. They were responding to a question. What should they have said?

Romney gives at least 10% of his earnings to the church and charities. He is a throwback to the days when men of character did not brag about their acts of charity, but did it quietly and anonomously in some cases. As Ann Romney said, this is ridiculous that they can't have empathy because they are financially secure.

Again, the Romneys did not bring this up. It was an attempt at a gotcha question by Gregory. Later in the interview Gregory again tried another gotcha question on Obamacare. What should the Romneys have said in response to Gregory's question?

14 posted on 09/11/2012 10:43:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Then why are the Romneys letting themsleves get sucked into this “we can empathize with you...we have also struggled” stuff?
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Looking at Romney’s past record, you must remember that Mitt was ahead of Teddyboy Kennedy with a short time to the election and he mysteriously ‘morphed’ himself into Teddy and lost.
I don’t know if I am being hyper about this BUT IMNSHO he tanked the election for Senate and ended up as Guv as his ‘reward’.

Every time I see one of these little ‘miscues’ I kind of wince, especially since ‘they’ shoved him down our throats.

Where is the Romney that slashed his way through his R challengers, leaving no bodies in a very scorched earth policy?

Next thing you know, Mitt will be saying BO ‘ain’t such a bad guy’, and him Boehner, McConnell and BO will be playing a round or two and we will experience BOHICA - again.


15 posted on 09/11/2012 10:44:01 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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GREGORY: …and to talk about your husband. And to talk about how he's connected to people in your lives and in-- in your family. There was something that caught my attention, I'm sure it caught yours from the keynote speaker of the Democratic convention, which is-- sort of went to this charge that somehow neither one of you are as empathetic about what's going on in the country to people who are out of work. And the line was from-- from Julian Castro, the mayor of San Antonio, “You just don't know how good you've had it.” How did that sit with you?
16 posted on 09/11/2012 10:45:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If you have to tell people you are empathetic, you’re not.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 10:46:53 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
How do you respond to the question about the "charge that somehow neither one of you are as empathetic about what's going on in the country to people who are out of work.?"
18 posted on 09/11/2012 10:50:01 AM PDT by kabar
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Romney gives at least 10% of his earnings to the church and charities. He is a throwback to the days when men of character did not brag about their acts of charity, but did it quietly and anonomously in some cases.

Actually Bishop Romney is a powerful figure in an anti-Christian cult, and he is required to give at least 10% of his money to the cult, or he cannot become a God.

Mitt Romney has zero character and he doesn't give anonymously, he is required to, and he is interviewed by the cult leaders every 2 years, verifying that he is meeting that requirement, his ID card must be renewed every 12 months, proving that he has made that mandatory "charity" giving, ID cards are issued so that you can prove that you are complying to the cults demands.

19 posted on 09/11/2012 10:53:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
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20 posted on 09/11/2012 10:58:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
He is a throwback to the days when men of character did not brag about their acts of charity, but did it quietly and anonomously in some cases. As Ann Romney said, this is ridiculous that they can't have empathy because they are financially secure.

Right! What you bring out is one of Gov. Romney's best traits! The educated & landed gentry who voted for the Declaration of Independence & later devised our Constitutional Federal Union, would never have even discussed their acts of charity with the general public. That is not how any gentleman--then or now--behaves.

It is to Romney's credit that he is uncomfortable with this sort of thing.

William Flax

21 posted on 09/11/2012 10:59:52 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: kabar

It would depend on the question. Do you know what that was?


22 posted on 09/11/2012 11:01:04 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: kabar

So you don’t even pretend to deal in facts anymore, post 19 is a straight forward collection of the facts on Mitt Romney, your claims for him are bogus, and it appears that you know that.


23 posted on 09/11/2012 11:10:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: svcw

Check out my posts 10 and 16, which provide the questions from Gregory. This is from the MTP official transcript of the interview.


24 posted on 09/11/2012 11:11:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Ohioan

See post 19, Bishop Romney isn’t ‘charitable’ he is a leader within a cult, and he transfers 10s of millions of dollars to them to fund their anti-Christian activities.


25 posted on 09/11/2012 11:13:43 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: all the best

Not interested in any politician’s empathy or sympathy. Just want him to do the right thing.


Exactly my thoughts. Just do the right thing.

My concern/fear/belief...is that Willard doesn’t know what the right thing is. Willard has changed his views so much and w/ so many items...I don’t think Willard even knows what he believes anymore.

So freaking sad.


26 posted on 09/11/2012 2:26:51 PM PDT by conservaKate (My vote will be against the One...not FOR Mittens.)
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