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What Really Made Steve Jobs So Angry at Google?
Gizmodo ^ | 10 September 2012 | Scott Cleland

Posted on 09/12/2012 4:22:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: mongrel

A 1 BILLION DOLLAR JUDGEMENT in APPLES FAVOR so far kind of puts the lie to your suppositions.

You think SAMSUNG is the only player who’s going to have to pay up to Apple?

I am no Apple Fan Boy, but Apple developed and patented much of what is now considered common in the touchscreen arena, gesture interactions etc... NOT MOTOROLA. Google partners will continue to lose law suits because they are infringing on those Patents, pure and simple.

What this means in the longer haul is that Microsoft if they could get a decent phone out in the market and get it to sell could take advantage.. I am sure they were wise enough NOT to blatantly break patents in their OS.

The fact APPLE is going after manufacturers and not Google directly tells you their strategy, and that strategy is NOT to get licensing agreements, but to let manufacturers know, you build an android device, you are going to be sued and lose big time. If Apple just wanted money they would have sued Google directly, or negotiated licensing deals with them... instead they are pushing manufacturers away from Google or trying to anyway, which would be an opening for MS to step into the fray in a meaningful way....

Time will tell.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 8:19:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“a rectangular phone with a touchscreen on which 3rd party apps can run”

Not to mention I’m pretty sure I already had one of those in 2005, an HTC 6700 Windows Mobile phone from Sprint.


22 posted on 09/12/2012 11:14:43 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: ShadowAce

how many sci-fi shows from the 60’s to present used the same tech? hardly original.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 11:18:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Jobs stole from Xerox

No, he didn't. Xerox was paid by Apple (with pre-IPO stock) to allow an Apple team to come in, observe (no notebooks or recording devices), and use whatever the gleaned from that visit.

Xerox eventually sold their stock for modest gain, but it would have been worth billions if they had held onto it long term.

24 posted on 09/12/2012 11:25:29 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: HamiltonJay
What this means in the longer haul is that Microsoft if they could get a decent phone out in the market and get it to sell could take advantage.. I am sure they were wise enough NOT to blatantly break patents in their OS.

Microsoft had indeed already licensed the relevant patents that Samsung was found to have infringed upon.

25 posted on 09/12/2012 11:37:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Apple’s win against Samsung was against specific developments unique to Samsung that demonstrated they were copying Apple’s hardware and UI in Samsung specific ways, not general Android issues. Apple is trying to make it look like a bigger win in their PR campaign, but this was not a win against Android. Now that they’ve won this case, they’re broadening to Android specific UI features, but they haven’t won that yet. Apparently Apple thinks they were they first to come up with slide to unlock.


26 posted on 09/12/2012 11:46:10 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Ugh, I think you're confusing Google with Facebook. Google had a highly contentious relationship with China, and were forced to pull out in a lot of ways. China staged a giant attack on them in January 2010. In that year there was much attention to how Facebook acquiesced to China, and agreed to censor, and Google wouldn't. China worked with Facebook and considered Google their enemy. I think you are confused

Google vs. China

27 posted on 09/12/2012 11:50:30 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Google originally was in league with the Chinese and acquiesced to their demands for censorship on Chinese search engines.

I know they left in a huff, but I hate ‘em for approaching the Chicoms to start with.

We need to boycott and economically isolate the Chinese, not sleep with them.

No business with China, period.

And that includes dog food and cheap TVs.


28 posted on 09/12/2012 11:58:37 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I'm a grown-ass man, I thought I'd seen it all.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


29 posted on 09/12/2012 12:00:01 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Do you hate the United States, because the United States is “in league with the Chinese and acquiesced to their demands?” Since before Google even existed.


30 posted on 09/12/2012 12:14:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Google for sleeping with the Chicoms.

That is not a true statement.

31 posted on 09/12/2012 12:15:29 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Jobs, Gates, and the Google troika are the kind of pimply-faced sissy marys I used to beat up and push into lockers when I was in high school.

You're proud of that?

32 posted on 09/12/2012 12:20:09 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: nickcarraway

No, I blame Harry Truman for firing MacArthur instead of listening to him.

We had the bomb, no one else did at the time.

We should have used it on both China and the USSR.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 12:46:02 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I'm a grown-ass man, I thought I'd seen it all.)
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To: ladyjane

I was a jock then, that was our privilege.

Still is in high schools across the nation.

Wake up and smell the coffee.


34 posted on 09/12/2012 12:47:39 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I'm a grown-ass man, I thought I'd seen it all.)
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To: mongrel

Mongrel,

Apple did indeed get the patent for the slide to unlock feature... a judge ruled it invalid in the UK, but they hold the patent.

And, no, The samsung case was NOT just about look and feel of the device, though that is certainly what the dumbed down mainstream media focused on...

They were found to be in violation of several apple patents that are part of EVERY android device.

Patent Numbers 7,844,915 and 7,459,381 have NOTHING to do with the shape of the device, but are things like PINCH TO ZOOM and the visual bounce effect when interacting with the device.. .these are CORE OS features, not simply shame and look of devices.

You need to read up some more my friend, you are falling for dumbed down news if you think this was just samsung sold rectangles.

Apple won KEY fundamental victories that are part of the android OS in direct violation of Apple’s patent. Right now ANY manufacture producing touch screen android devices with the core android OS on them is in violation of Apple’s patents and apple can go after them.

Don’t kid yourself.


35 posted on 09/12/2012 12:51:17 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay; mongrel

In fact, despite Samsung’s PR team spinning about “rounded rectangles” and the like, those were the Apple claims that wound up not be upheld by the jury as infringement.


36 posted on 09/12/2012 1:00:14 PM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

You can’t be serious. MacArthur botched the Korean War from the start. Many consider him the worst general in U.S. history, and he probably would have been fired after he lost the Philippines in World War II, except that he was so popular with the public.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 1:24:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Emperor Palpatine

What about Nixon?


38 posted on 09/12/2012 1:25:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Emperor Palpatine

But I’m a jock, nerd, & geek simultaneously.

Strange, no?


39 posted on 09/12/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by rdb3 (Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth.)
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To: nickcarraway

he gave us CETA and the EPA. He took us off the gold standard. He wanted to have “detente” with the enemy.

He was a paranoid liar who couldn’t control his own people.

That’s what I think of RINO Tricky Dicky.


40 posted on 09/12/2012 2:51:25 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I'm a grown-ass man, I thought I'd seen it all.)
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