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CIA, Mossad, Rev Jones & Romney team up to insult Islamic values
Iran's Press TV ^ | 9-12-2012 | Islamic Ministry of Information

Posted on 09/13/2012 10:10:32 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs

He calls himself a religious leader, a “preacher,” this Terry Jones, the man responsible for blaspheming the prophet Mohammed... with Israeli intelligence and the P2 Masonic lodge, better known as “Operation Gladio,” the group responsible for the murder of Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro and terror bombings that went on into the 90s... Jones is a spy, CIA trained, run by rogue handlers, and heavily promoted by Mossad elements throughout the Middle East and able to garner national news attention in the US when anyone else of his minor following and total lack of credibility would be ignored... German built submarines armed with Russian built nuclear weapons patrol of Iran as we speak, their Israeli crews ready to start World War III... Inside the US, rogue elements of Bush era intelligence privatization, initially under Blackwater Corporation and its various successors, still actively run agents, manage narcotics processing and distribution and intimidate world leaders through threats against their families... You see, in order to start a war, Mitt Romney must be elected president. However, Romney belongs to a religious group most Christians find to be a heretical cult... These are the beliefs of the Mormon Church, the beliefs Mitt Romney accepted and taught:

“Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be” (Book of Mormon10:110; Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon Church)

“Had I anything to do with the Negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: p.332).

“From the days of the Prophet Joseph Smith even until now, it is has been the doctrine of the Church, never questioned by any of the Church leaders, that the Negroes are not entitled to the full blessings of the Gospel.” (Joseph the First)


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: cia; jones; mossad; romney

1 posted on 09/13/2012 10:10:39 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Hey count me in ... I’d be happy to help “insult Islamic values” ... Islam has values ?


2 posted on 09/13/2012 10:12:37 AM PDT by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The usual suspects......


3 posted on 09/13/2012 10:14:07 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
look @ the source...
the Iranian Mullahs "mouthpiece"...

4 posted on 09/13/2012 10:14:41 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Looks like it's time again for my standard insult of Islam:

Islam is a degenerate, psychotic cult, created by a murderous child molester and currently supported and maintained by self-flagellating, illiterate, effeminate cowards.

5 posted on 09/13/2012 10:15:05 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Democrats - The Treasonous Pervert Party)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

You mean Islamic values like honor killings, stonings. wife beatings, pedophilia, etc.? Those values?


6 posted on 09/13/2012 10:15:53 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Sounds like Achmed Dickjob is telling his supporters to vote for ObaMao. Who’d of think it?


7 posted on 09/13/2012 10:16:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Hey Tehran! You forgot me!

I know from your texts that:

Mohammed was a CHILD RAPIST.

Please add me and millions of other people to your lists.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 10:17:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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Obama doing an “end zone” dance over UBL and Kadahfi was no insult, of course.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 10:18:05 AM PDT by llevrok (By comparison to Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Ah. Press-TV. You find this insane outlet a “news sourcse”? The gobbledygook is even more kaudervelsh than old soviet communiques ;).

For rational meaning and/or truth from Iran, drup a nuke on them. Listen to the screams.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 10:19:22 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

So...honestly speaking about “Islamic Values” ...is insulting?

I’d say if you find that’s the case...time for a new set of values!!!!!!!

anybody got that STFU graphic around?!!


11 posted on 09/13/2012 10:21:01 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The moon God cult can pound sand.


12 posted on 09/13/2012 10:22:33 AM PDT by datura
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Iran needs to be vaporized in a haze of plutonium.

ALL of it. As Sherman and Churchill rightly observed, there are no such thing as innocent civilians.


13 posted on 09/13/2012 10:24:10 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

THE BIG LIE TO PROTECT MUSLIM OBAMA PRESIDENT SO HE CAN FINISH TAKING DOWN USA


14 posted on 09/13/2012 10:26:42 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
All in all a fairly balanced report.

They didn't mention "stomps on puppies", "steals lunch money from children", "encourages global warming", or close relationships with Al Capone, Wall Street, or Larry Flint.

15 posted on 09/13/2012 10:30:41 AM PDT by norton
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

They left me out too....

I’ve clearly stated that their Prophet Mohammed was a gay pedophile piece of turd.....

Geez...where’s my recognition or Fatwa?


16 posted on 09/13/2012 10:30:45 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: clamper1797

Count me in, easy peasy, takes so little to insult their MOHAM HO.


17 posted on 09/13/2012 10:35:17 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: Emperor Palpatine; ExxonPatrolUs
"As Sherman and Churchill rightly observed, there are no such thing as innocent civilians."

Sherman and Churchill were wrong about that. Guilt or aggression cannot be imputed to somebody who has intended you no harm, spoken you no harm, and done you no harm. That's why the willful killing of civilians --- properly so defined --- whether targeted or intentionally indiscriminate, is murder.

18 posted on 09/13/2012 10:48:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Then I suppose congratulations are in order!


19 posted on 09/13/2012 10:55:56 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wrong.

Civilians support teh regime, civilians work in industries vital to the enemy economy, and bombing residential areas “de-houses” the workforce again affecting the economy.

Plus it saps morale, and even the widdle kiddies won’t grow up to be terrorists.

I admire Sherman and Churchill, and I’ll take their words over some namby-pamby moralist who even thinks killing the enemy is murder.

What a maroon!


20 posted on 09/13/2012 10:56:41 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Emperor Palpatine; ExxonPatrolUs

I don’t believe Sherman ever said any such thing. I’ve read several biographies, and he expressed his personal regret that civilians had to suffer as a result of his army’s actions, however much he considered those actions necessary to bring the war to an end. He stated that when the war was over he would share his last cracker with the former enemy.

In May 1865 Sherman wrote, in a private letter, “I confess, without shame, I am sick and tired of fighting—its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands and fathers ... tis only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation.

This does not sound like someone unconcerned about civilian casualties or suffering.

I am skeptical Churchill said this. He was known to be less than comfortable with Bomber Harris and his intentional targeting of German civilians. Like Sherman, he considered it necessary, but did not consider those civilians legitimate targets in the same way soldiers were.

That said, I think you can make a very good case that citizens of a democracy are more legitimate as targets than subjects of an authoritarian or totalitarian state. In the CSA the suffering civilians Sherman targeted were in control of the government he fought. The government was doing their bidding. At one remove, they had initiated the war or at least insisted it continue.

In Nazi Germany, while they may have supported it, the civilians did not control the government.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 11:04:32 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
As Sherman and Churchill rightly observed, there are no such thing as innocent civilians.

This means Americans on 9/11 were legitimate military targets.

Or is it only our side that has innocent civilians?

22 posted on 09/13/2012 11:06:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You got it, Sherm.

They’re the enemy.

To Hades with them...ALL of them.

My concern is for Americans and America ONLY, I could give a sh*t about the rest of the effing world....especially the islamic vermin that infests the Middle East.

Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 11:13:55 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
able to garner national news attention in the US when anyone else of his minor following and total lack of credibility would be ignored.

Nonsense.

He gets national news attention because the media loves to portray the idiot as representative of right wing teabagging conservatives.

24 posted on 09/13/2012 11:15:17 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Should help Romney that Iran’s in the tank for Obama. But then, this whole article stinks of BS....


25 posted on 09/13/2012 11:16:08 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: Emperor Palpatine

So you don’t object to the 9/11 attacks, other than that they were against “your side?”

Terrorism is a perfectly legitimate military and political tactic?

Most Americans like to think of ourselves as “the good guys,” precisely because we don’t intentionally kill innocent people, particularly women and children.

Following your approach, we’re no longer the good guys, just the powerful guys (at the moment). Makes us no better than Nazis or Communists.

No thanks.


26 posted on 09/13/2012 11:20:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I wish they were that smart and connected.....Iran and the rest of the sand pounding muzzies can go suck on a stick of tnt as far as I am concerned. i am sooooo tired of the US apologizing for being the greatest nation on earth......Our freedoms are more important than your offhandedness so cry me a river already.

Clean up your own houses before you decide to dump in mine


27 posted on 09/13/2012 11:21:31 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Sherman Logan

Might makes right, and what’s the use of being the biggest badass on the block if you don’t prove it every so often?

No, terrorism is not legitimate, but in a war all is fair.

And Sir Arthur Harris is one of my heroes, along with LeMay.

Both of them had no compunction deliberately targetting civilians.

BTW, Churchill once said “If you asked a Londoner if we should stop our bombing of enemy cities he would say NO, we must give them back the measure, and more than the measure of what they have meted out to us.”


28 posted on 09/13/2012 11:30:04 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
No, terrorism is not legitimate, but in a war all is fair.

Devout Muslims are, by definition, always at war with the rest of the world.

So do you consider their attack on American civilians on 9/11 legitimate? If not, on what basis do you condemn it?

Might does NOT make right, or Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were in the right.

29 posted on 09/13/2012 11:49:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
to insult Islamic values

Just look at the culture...in islam what is there not insult worthy. It is a truly disgusting religion whose values reek of evil....yep, let us value murder, slavery, no rites for women, child brides, beating women, multiple wives, incest, rape, honor killings....what am I leaving out of this lovely islamic value list that is just off the top of my head?

30 posted on 09/13/2012 12:06:27 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Emperor Palpatine; ExxonPatrolUs; Sherman Logan
Killing a deadly aggressor to stop his aggression is a just use of armed force. The directly targeted or indiscriminate killing of blameless people who are just going about their lives (the farmer, farming; the mother, mothering; and "widdle kiddies" in your contemptuous phrase) is murder.

The view that there are no innocent civilians has more in common with Jihadi Islam than with Western Civilization.

A lack of morally relevant discrimination between an aggressor and a non-aggressor is acceptable, even applauded --- in al-Zawahiri's madrassas. But it is condemned by the Judeo-Christian world, in an Aristotelian framework of reason and virtue, and in the principles of Natural Law which are the foundation of the American republic.

You can't prevail over Islamist fanaticism in this way. You've already accepted the single most loathsome thing in their philosophy. You may see yourself as the most staunch opponent of nation's enemies, but you deceive yourself? In your heart -- from which your morality proceeds --- you and the Enemy are in profound agreement.

God help you.

31 posted on 09/13/2012 12:32:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (He will come on that Day to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Absolutely.

I would also like to point out that Mohammed imposed requirements on who was subject to be intentionally killed in war. His standards were far below those, in theory, of today’s international law, but well above those routinely accepted in his day.

Mohammed would, again in theory, have been opposed to much of the practice of today’s Muslim terrorists. But it’s a complicated issue, with varying opinions reminiscent of the Talmud in their complexity.

Here’s a good discussion of sharia’s attitude towards “non-combatants.”

http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20061226_NoncombatantsFinal.pdf


32 posted on 09/13/2012 1:11:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Emperor Palpatine; ExxonPatrolUs

I have a suggestion for the “kill ‘em all” guys.

Let’s gather up 25 little Muslim girls. Here’s a knife. You get to personally cut their throats.

Are you willing to proceed?

If not, you’re just a blowhard. Or you want others to commit the murders you aren’t willing to commit yourself.

If you are willing to kill those little girls, then you’re an evil person and unworthy to be called an American. Or a man, IMO.


33 posted on 09/13/2012 1:17:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

This is the line of thinking is what you read on leftist websites and youtube in comments. It’s Muslim and they are active on the net trying to coral the lefties/mush brains.


34 posted on 09/13/2012 1:26:20 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Sherman Logan
Thanks for the link.

My understanding is that Islam lacks a concept of inherent human rights per se. They believe (I am told) that Allah created the world for the Umma, the Muslim people. Therefore anyone who is not Muslim is, in a sense, an interloper and a thief: someone who is occupying the ground he stands on without right, breathing air he has no right to breathe. Muslims may rightly decide to give this interloper the choice of becoming either a Muslim or a corpse.

They may also decide to permit such a person's continued existence, but only if his continued existence benefits the Umma. This justifies the toleration of the dhimmi: because they pay the jizya.

Like so much of Islam this --- if it is truly what they believe --- is a perverted form of what Christianity teaches. We believe that the whole world was created for Christ. (Col. 1:16 "All things were created through Him, all things were created for Him.")

(Don't know what your religion is, but let me think this out on paper here. I mean, in electrons :o)

To us that does not mean that the world was created only for Christians, or that only Christians have a right to life. It means... let's see if I can say this succinctly ... that the human race was created with Christ in view, so to speak.

In our origin: the image and likeness of God. In our nature: able to think and to choose. In our capacities: to be God's viceroys so to speak "Have dominion over the fish in the sea and over the birds in the air and over all living things that move upon the earth." (Gen 1:28) In our final end, which is to be with God in Christ.

Therefore it is the human race which has an inherent dignity, not just the Umma.

35 posted on 09/13/2012 2:20:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

All muslims intend harm. It’s in the koran.


36 posted on 09/13/2012 2:50:27 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade
That's what they are supposed to do. By no means do all of them live "down" to that. Some can't "intend" at all, being below the age of reason. Some have an unorthodox interpretation; or see the more violent precepts in an analogical sense, as spiritual struggle; or simply don't conform to all the requirements of their religion.

Christians are supposed to love their enemies. It's in the New Testament. Similarly, most of us don't live "up" to that.

37 posted on 09/13/2012 5:27:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Then they are not muslims. The koran is absolute, being the word of god verbatim.

You may have non-absolute muslims, but they’re not really muslms.

Let’s just drop this sanctimonious bs and say what it is: a genocidal animist cult that will wipe out humanity, or go the way of the dinosaurs.


38 posted on 09/13/2012 5:59:35 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bullcrap.


39 posted on 09/13/2012 6:01:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If they work in a factory that supports the government, they’re a legitimate target.

If they drive a bus full of workers to government offices, they’re a legitimate target.

If they pump gas into those buses, they’re a legitimate target.

If they work at the refinery that makes the gasoline, they’re a legitimate target.

If they kiss the guy who works at that refinery when he comes home at night, they’re a legitimate target.

If they sell groceries to tho bus drivers and workers, they’re a legitimate target.

Got it you silly woman? Morons like you are going to get tens of thousands of Americans killed.


40 posted on 09/13/2012 6:07:01 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker; Emperor Palpatine
Your list of the guilty, then, is entirely too short.

What about the people who give diplomatic support to the Islamists? That's be the USA.

What about the people who pay taxes that support those diplomats? That'd be U.S. taxpayers.

What about the people who placed the Islamists in power or kept them there? That would be all the people who voted Democrat or Republican in the last election, or "wasted" their vote on some minor party, or didn't vote at all.

What about the developers, manufacturers or shippers of the Islamists weapons systems? Their communications systems? Their financial systems? And those who feed, house, and educate them? How about the spouses, dependents and kin of those taxpayers, voters, and the rest of the military-indusrial complex? Now we're cookin'. That covers just about everybody.

Find yourself on a Yahoo map. Put a little red flag there. Zoom out from sea to shining sea. By your own criteria, you and everybody around you must constitute a legitimate target.

41 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (“Murder most foul, as in the best it is, but this most foul, strange, and unnatural.”)
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